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Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince - my review

lewisCFClewisCFC Posts: 1
edited July 2009 in Movies
I went to the cinema today, eagerly anticipating the arrival of the new
Harry Potter film; The Half Blood Prince. Like hundreds of others, the fantastic
trailers advertising this movie had taken me in. For once, it seemed, they had decided
to focus on the plot, something no other Harry Potter movie had achieved. But alas, these
trailers, not unusually, had led me astray. This is with-out denial the single worst Harry
Potter film to-date. Sure, the acting talents of Mr.Radcliff have certainly increased, as
should be expected, the CGI wasn't bad, however, the deviation from the actual story was
almost farsical. This became obvious within the first five minutes of the film. As an avid
fan of the series, I was somewhat surprised to find Harry in a random train-station at the
beginning of the movie, instead of where he should be; at the Dursley's. These meanderings from
the plot were plentiful and frequent. Not only were there meanderings at unimportant times of the
story, but at the most significant point in the film; Dumbledore's death. Plus, we can thank the script
writer for the completely new scene near the middle of the film. Harry decides to spend his holidays
at the Burrow, where Belatrix Lestrange and Fenrir Greyback decide to attack the Weasley family, this
scene ends with the destruction of the Burrow and the Weasley family in tears. Sound familiar? It shouldn't.
To conclude, this is the second-worst ever adaptation from book to film I have ever seen, second only to
Eragon. This film should probably be re-named; Harry Potter and the Director Who Didn't Know When to Stop.
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  • MicroFXMicroFX Posts: 555 ✭✭
    Well you're pretty naive for expecting a book to film translation, thats not what these are about, the books are source material and the film makers (who are highly talent) are at liberty to do whatever they like with them. For HBP they have stuck pretty close to the book, more so than any other film in the series, yes cuts are made and things added in, and we may not all agree with the decisions but this film is a pretty damn good film and excellently written.
  • lil_misslil_miss Posts: 1
    I have to agree with you on this one lewisCFC. I understand that they dont have to be an exact book to film translation, but there were, what i consider to be significant parts of the book missing from the film. The other Horcruxes for a start, what about the action at the end of the book deatheaters v's teachers and DA. Dumbledores death was nothing to what i would of expected as he was such an important/main character.
    Utterly disappointed!!!! I only hope they dont make such a pigs ear of the last film.
  • keetkeet Posts: 600
    Thats the only thing with us all being big fans and reading the books, we know what we want the films to be like coz we knw what happens in the books and sometimes it doesn't turn out s we expected. however i do understand that if they pu everything in the film it would go on for a very long time
  • david yates needs sacking. end of.
  • cuteangelkellycuteangelkelly Posts: 2
    edited July 2009
    I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't whole-heartidly comment about the Half-blood Prince. But for now I totally agree with lewisCFC about Eragon: the movie made me cry-- mad tears of rage. It's a pitty how one overzealous screenwriter could ruin a perfectly good fantasy novel like Eragon. How could anyone go wrong with magic and dragons? I don't know, somehow they managed. Same thing happened to twilight... ugg. Seriously.
  • apauloapaulo Posts: 7
    I totally agree with LewisCFC.
    I have read all the books a few times and must admit I have become rather bais in my thinking to what is important as an inclusion to this film and it's story line. I cant understand why Yates and the script writer felt it important to add two new scenes which
    LewisCFC had mentioned and to omit vital parts of the story. Some movie critics have noticed this as well. "The movie seems to assume people have read the book, but if one has not it would be rather difficult to follow the plot" (Stratin at el 2009).
    Yates in my option has also made a mess of the Phoniex ,and I am afraid he will do the same to the "Deathly Hallows". I believe J.K.Rowlings had placed cues, teasers and important insights into the story line and it's chartacters but Yates and his script writer's had failed to notice this. A good example of this would be the Role of the "DA" and the final fight in the last chapters of the book (Half Blood Prince), the involvement of the Ministery Of Magic throughout the story and finaly the roles of Dobby and Kreacher. Still I enjoyed the movie and it has been mentioned in this forum already, the book is always going to be different to the movie.
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    edited July 2009
    I agree with Micro.

    And I add that anyone who judges these films on how different they are from the book doesn't have a serious opinion on the movie, because they are not judging the movie on it's qualities. You, for instance, are completely ignoring it's qualities (which you have actually said are good) to label this the worst HP movie and David Yates the worst director simply because they didn't do exactly as the book says. A director and a screen writer are supposed to focus on making a good film. Not appeasing purists like yourself.

    You are certainly right about Eragon. That was just a bad film.
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    I loved it. And I LIKE most of the changes they made.
  • LESTRANGELESTRANGE Posts: 221
    I totally agree with Wilbo and Micro.
  • apauloapaulo Posts: 7
    Dear Wilbo421 and Mirco
    You have a point regarding the problems and issues that can arise when adapting a novel to the big screen. Throughout cinema history films had never done the novel any justice. You both are missing Lewis and my point of agruement, simply being, a story requires important pits of information to make the plot conjuant (sic). When one adapts a novel to film they risk omiting these vital bits of information, it is different when you screen write for a movie. A simple way of proving my point is to ask someone to watch the film who hasn't read or seen any of the other films or books, and see if they can follow and or understand the concept and the plot. As I have said before I enjoyed the film and the escapism I had for 153 minutes was fantastic.
    Best Regards Apaulo.
  • MicroFXMicroFX Posts: 555 ✭✭
    Most of my friends and certainly lots of people who ive heard from enjoyed the movie and they've never read the books, it depends what you look for in a movie, the majority is for entertainment which the movie provides a lot, and the plot is pretty easy to understand.
  • apauloapaulo Posts: 7
    I am pleased to hear that Micro, I will be taking my family to see it next week, some of the kids haven't read the book, so will be interesting to see what they think. Never the less looking forward in the next two instalments of the HP saga.
  • i agree with micro . They did miss some things but i feel that by me reading the books i enjoyed it more! i loved the scene at the burrow! and like they skipped the da teacher against death eater fight but they hinted at something cause they were all down stairs when the death eaters came up to the astonomy tower! i thought the scenes with dumbledore and harry about the horcrux were wonderful! oh and Lestrange i'm in love with helena bonham carter she did such a good job i loved when bellatrix was destroying the castle and hagrids hut she is so evil its scary what she will do to get the attention of and please the dark lord!
  • cobftwcobftw Posts: 2
    I think the clarification that needs to be made here is that IF YOU ARE AN AVID HARRY POTTER READER/FAN OF THE BOOKS, you will be completely and utterly disappointed by this movie! At least I was.

    Yes, the special effects kicked ass and certain scenes were spot on. And yes, it is true, Wilbo421 and Mirco, certain changes need to be made from the source material in order to successfully adapt a novel to the screen. However, this does NOT mean you have to rewrite the majority of the dialogue, add new scenes, change the characters around (both in terms of what scenes they are in and HOW they are) or exclude important, pivotal moments! The book was an international best seller, why not stay loyal to it? Rowling is a good writer! USE THE BOOK TO WRITE THE SCREENPLAY, DON'T JUST REWRITE THE WHOLE DAMN STORY!!!

    To me, the best part of the book was the development of Dumbledore/Harry's relationship while the two of them gained insight together into all of the Horcruxes/Voldemort's past, and this part was almost COMPLETELY GLOSSED OVER! A tragic, tragic shame. This movie was a farce of an adaptation, if you ask me, which nobody is. ;-)

    You want to see a good screenplay adapted from original material, see the Lord of the Rings series. They made certain, necessary changes, but didn't redo almost every scene/plot detail!!

    Another potentially great film ruined by the powers that be in Hollywood...sigh.
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    edited July 2009
    [quote=cobftw]I think the clarification that needs to be made here is that IF YOU ARE AN AVID HARRY POTTER READER/FAN OF THE BOOKS, you will be completely and utterly disappointed by this movie! At least I was.[/quote]

    Absolutely wrong. If you are a purist, you will hate the movie. Purists aren't bigger Harry Potter fans, they just have an incapability of being reasonable or having the slightest clue what must happen when a book is adapted to the big screen.

    And I'm sorry, but anyone who says the Lord of the Rings films are closer to the LotR books than the Hp films are to their books are absolutely deluding themselves.

    The point is, this is a GOOD film. It has a very well written screenplay, very good acting, very good cinematography, very good special effects and visuals, a very good score and certainly not least of all, fantastic direction. Just because it changes things from the book, doesn't stop it from being a good film, it literally ONLY stops it from being completely accurate to the book. Something purists can't (or won't) get their heads around.
  • cobftwcobftw Posts: 2
    edited July 2009
    Hahahaha! "Absolutely wrong." ??!! It's an opinion, my post. It can't be "wrong" because I'm telling you that's how I feel, personally. And that's that. You can disagree if you'd like! I certainly do with you. I do not think it's a good screenplay for all the reasons I just listed and because it comes across as a jumbled conglomeration of individual scenes that have little to nothing to do with each other. It left many non-readers confused. The movie was less of an adaptation than a rewrite, in my opinion, and I found the screenplay laughable just like I do your staunch defense of the film. The special effects, cinematography, etc. were all spectacular, you are right-- as they have been in the last four or so films. Yates doesn't mess around. He's solid. I agree. That's not my problem with it. I merely think it's a travesty that the movie version strayed so very much from the book, which is undeniable, and that it did so without reason. Why take out all the horcrux scenes with a younger Voldemort? Why add the Burrow scene? Why leave out the funeral/fight? They'll likely put a lot of that stuff in the last 2 films, but it's not because you HAVE to make those changes to make a good screenplay. And don't say it made the movie better, or tenser, or whatever. The book already had every dramatic element you could ever ask for on the big screen. Romance, mystery, action, violence, death, hope, etc. The book already had a good beginning, middle, and end (rife with character motivations and the whole nine yards). The only reason I can see to change it is to make it more Hollywood (ie. formulaic and cliched) because that's what works and that's what guarantees you butts in those seats, ie. ticket sales, ie. the highest box office gross possible (bingo!). I'm disappointed, and I'm entitled to that because it's my opinion.
    Post edited by cobftw on
  • apauloapaulo Posts: 7
    Wiblo again you are missing the point of debate. There seems to be two sides of this arguement. One being an adaption of screenplay by the sceenwriter is justified for the sake of the movie. That is a valid point to consider. There is the "purist" point of view, which i hold closer bond to being certain vital and important parts of the novel should have been included in the film but where omited This is not a bad mark about the quality of the film just the quanity. This point is sadly not addressed by your arguement Wiblo.
    Regards Apaulo.
  • hp4gwhp4gw Posts: 379
    ok, so i saw harry potter yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it - as a movie
    because i heard it wasnt close to the book and some vitally important things were missed out
    when i watched it i didnt want to be biased and so i pushed the book 'purist' out of me and just watched - point blank
    now, i was enjoying every minute of it - until the dumbledore scene - and that turned my smile upside down
    dumbledore is such an amazing character - he cannot die like that!
    anyway, moving swiftly on, harry/ginny ron/hermione - she is NOT supposed to bloody CONFESS to harry that she loves ron! wth?! she's not even supposed to know herself yet!
    h/g was - as u no by my name - an important part i was looking out for, movie or book lover, and as it stands i was, quite frankly, dissapointed - so let's hope there is more of that in DH
    now, draco - bad boy... i loved all his scenes and all dark scenes because they were actually close to the book - but they were mixed in, making the plot unrecognisable to an outsider
    the ron love potion scene was OK - and i liked, not loved - i must confess, like i did in the book - slughorn
    but overall, it didnt do the book much justice - no plot, and it just seemed like another hollywood fantasy light and dark with not much of a plot ---
    o yer, another thing....the train station??? wth???
    i'll leave that to anyone's imagination...
    o - and it was very funny - for anyone looking for a bit of cheering up, looking at these hormonal teens falling in and out of love with each other is sure to get a few smiles :) except if ur looking for lots of h/g snogging stuff - it aint guna happen - 1 kiss, and then nothing??? until a little ginny comforting harry in the end???
    book lover - not purist - in me was xtrememly dissapointed
    movie lover - which i had to struggle to pull out of me, i admit, because book lover was saying stuff - in me was jumping up and down for joy, she was ecstatic
    btw ron lovers - he is BUFF - even I had trouble concentrating on harry loll
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    [quote=apaulo]This point is sadly not addressed by your arguement Wiblo.[/quote]

    That's because it's ridiculous. Maybe important points DO get left out. But for some reason, purists automatically think when something they deem important is left out that there is no other way they can get to the same ending the books got to. There are other ways of making the movies work without those important points.

    And I'm sorry, I'm not missing the point. You guys are saying the film is bull cause it misses so called "important" plot points and changes things. That is not the film, that is YOUR incapability to either let those things go or understand that not everything works exactly how it did in the books. The important things they apparently missed out will more than likely still be there. Just not introduced at the point of time they are in the books.

    And yes cobftw, absolutely wrong. THAT is MY opinion. And only an idiot would deny yours is immature. "I'm a bigger fan cause I get upset at changes" No your not. Same goes for the "I'm a bigger fan, cause I know more about the books". Again, no your not. To claim yourself so is downright arrogant AND ignorant.

    And without reason? You need to read up on things, mate. There WAS reason, otherwise they wouldn't have changed anything. Somethings maybe your purist mind can't comprehend:

    - Go into the memories = Going back in time, pretty much. It stops dealing with the here and now, for the moments it is on screen. It would disrupt the flow of ANY film. Needless to say, the other memories that contain important information will be re-inserted somewhere into the storyline of Deathly Hallows.

    - The Burrow scene is needed to pick up the pace in the middle, otherwise the movie WOULD have started dragging. It added a sense of urgency, danger and also very plainly illustrated how nowhere is safe. Not for Harry, not for anyone. Especially not for Molly. Remember? At the start of the film, Ron mentions Molly's unwillingness to let the kids go back to Hogwarts, thinking the Burrow is safer. You wouldn't have thought of that stark realisation for Molly because "Oh no! That's not in the book!" And in fact, JK Rowling WROTE the Burrow attack. She left it out of the book in the end, but it was there originally.

    - The fight is easy. Do you even remember reading the book? It was Harry running through the entrance hall where people were fighting, running straight through and out. THAT was it. The rest was relayed to Harry afterwards. Things can work the other way as well, opposite to "There's no point in leaving it out". That also quite often means "There's no point in putting it in". Remember Deathly Hallows? Remember that big ol' fight in Hogwarts at the end? The culmination and peak of the entire series? You wouldn't, of course, have considered that maybe another full-blown fight in Hogwarts might distinctly lessen the impact of the final battle.
    The funeral? They already had the wandlit tribute, and the funeral would have served as overkill because of one too many endings for Dumbledore's character.

    Changes are ALWAYS made for a reason. Whether you like the reason or not is neither here nor there, but the point is these changes were made to make the film a better film. Who gives a shit how the purists feel. These are films, first and foremost.
  • hp4gwhp4gw Posts: 379
    now wilbo - please do not call cobftw opinion immature, everyone has a right to their OWN opinion - and to call it immature is stupid, yet u cud argue that is your opinion - in which case i could reply that your opinion is immature...see how things can get out of hand?
    remember guys, we are all harry potter fans and that is what is tying us together ok? we all have different views, and maybe that is a good thing - we can share our ideas and having someone else's view on something helps you see it in - perhaps - a different light, though you may still think of it in your way ok?
    o and now u mention it, i think if they make the fight scene in DH really excellent and long, putting most the little things in DH part 1, then it could be worth the wait, instead of having the other HBP big fight scene
    true true good point !
  • keetkeet Posts: 600
    [quote=hp4gw]btw ron lovers - he is BUFF - even I had trouble concentrating on harry loll[/quote]
    phwoar lol cant wait, rons gorgeous!
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    hp4gw, are you seriously trying to tell me that when someone says they are a bigger and better fan of Harry Potter than other people, it doesn't irritate you? If someone were to tell you "You're not a REAL Harry Potter fan cause you liked this film", you wouldn't think "Now wait a minute..."?

    I'm sorry if you don't like that, but that's the way I am with everything.

    For instance, there is a band I am almost obsessed with. I listen to them so much that my sister gets completely sick of it. I know all the lyrics to all the songs, I can play a few of them, but I would not, for one single second, even suggest I am a bigger fan of that band than anyone else out there. It's boasting, it's a way of trying to say you are better than someone else. Even if it's not worded like that, that IS the mentality of those who say it. It is childish and immature.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Well I enjoyed the film.I saw it twice.I still think Cuaron should have been the director.He would have made it better although this is the best one simply because Dumbledore dies witch is the most emotional part in all the potter films.I even had tears in my eyes and couldn't believe it even if I already read the book.They should put Dumbledores funeral in the begenning of DH just like they put Harry and Dumbledore at the ministry.I think Yates improved big time and he will do justice to DH and we must accept this since he's finished with the first part.
  • apauloapaulo Posts: 7
    Wiblo I am begining to think you are rather dogmatic and narrow minded to other people's opinion. It is quite clear reading the strings of this forum that you are the loudest minority and the consensis seems to be that most of the harry potter fans regardless of age and gender have been disappointed with the film's script and story line. Just because you think it was acceptable doesn't mean were wrong.
    Regards Apaulo.
  • Bryan97Bryan97 Posts: 15
    Well I was never able to read the book but I intend to do it soon. I thought it was good as long as you don't think to much of the book stuff left out. It is for entertainment and if they put a lot of the book in it, then it would be to boring and too long.
  • keetkeet Posts: 600
    I agree bryan97, the books are amazing to read but if it were all 2 go onto film it would be on forever!
    Cant wait to see it on tuesday!
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    [quote=apaulo]Wiblo I am begining to think you are rather dogmatic and narrow minded to other people's opinion. It is quite clear reading the strings of this forum that you are the loudest minority and the consensis seems to be that most of the harry potter fans regardless of age and gender have been disappointed with the film's script and story line. Just because you think it was acceptable doesn't mean were wrong.
    Regards Apaulo. [/quote]

    Actually, apaulo, I usually am incredibly respectful of other peoples opinions. Things will get out of hand, however, when someone suggests they are in any way better or bigger than anyone else. And funnily enough, as a film student, I also get a tad pissed when people ignore the actual qualities that a film has and ignore all the incredibly hard work that has gone into just because it is different from the book. So yes, my opinion is that you are wrong to not judge a film as a film.

    You generalise. Too much. The general consensus is not disappointment. You've been living in a world of purist Harry Potter fans. You should check out actual movie forums, places and people who have an unbiased opinion. Check rotten tomatoes, an 84% rating doesn't indicate disappointment. Those judging the film as a film seem to love it. Those judging the film as a book don't like it. And I'm sorry, but the former makes more sense to me.

    And yes, fine, if I'm narrow minded because I think someone saying they are a bigger harry potter fan because they got pissed off at the film is damn immature and childish, then I'm the most narrow minded person in the world.

    I would also like to put forward though, that you purists are narrow minded. THAT'S why I am the "loudest minority", because you won't accept anything that's not what you expect..

    And one more thing. I haven't once stated anything I've said as fact. I'm fully aware it is my own opinion, but if I want to call someone elses opinion immature, I will.
  • I am not naive about how Hollywood works, and that books are usually very loosely followed as source material, but I do agree that if a book is very successful, there is no reason to change so many things about it. Making it shorter, I understand is necessary, but completely rewriting the book isn't, especially when it can be reasonalbly assumed that when you are making a series of movies from a series of very popular books, that the fans of those books are going to be the ones most supporting these movies being made. This director and screenwriter has completely overlooked that fact and gone off on a rampage of their own creativity as if to thumb their noses at Potter fans and say, "Ha, look what we can do!" But aside from how I feel about how the movie related to the book, I will say how I feel about the movie by itself. Apart from the funny scenes which were good, I felt the movie fell flat. The characters performances were unmoving, and the whole movie a little boring. If I can't feel emotion in a movie I am watching, then I feel like someone has not done his or her job. I feel everyone missed the mark in this movie, but I feel more of the blame goes on the director who didn't pull out of his actors the emotion that was needed throughout the movie, especially the ending. And no matter whether it was like the book, or not,the ending needed something more, so maybe the battle scene and the funeral was it since it worked in the book, but definitely not in the movie. The movie was devoid of true feeling and the ending showed that more than anywhere. When a main character dies in a movie series and the one watching it can't even feel enough emotion to even care, or feel that the characters even care, then something is wrong with how it was done. So who's fault is that, the director, the screenwriter or the actors? Well, maybe they all take some of the blame. I just hope the next book can be written, directed and acted better, or the Harry Potter series of movies will be a failure in my mind no matter what the box office gross says.
  • GNEisGR8GNEisGR8 Posts: 3
    I agree with LewisCFC. Although I read the book, my husband, who is as huge of fan of the HP series as I am, did not. We both agreed that it was the worst movie of the series to date. We also agreed that Dumbledore's death did not have the emotion in it that it should have with him being so integral to the plot. It was like watching some random extra die. No drama at all. You just don't feel the attachment to the characters in this one as you do in the other movies. If you have never read the book, this movie leaves you feeling lost & disoriented. The theater was packed full & the couple sitting next to us kept commenting about how it wasn't flowing together well, how it was like the director had random thoughts & ideas & just threw them all together without the use of his editors. I for one, understand that movies rarely, if ever, do the books justice, but this was ridiculous! 2 Thumbs WAY Down for this highly hyped Harry Potter.
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    [quote=GNEisGR8]Although I read the book, my husband, who is as huge of fan of the HP series as I am, did not. We both agreed that it was the worst movie of the series to date.[/quote]

    That means nothing. I went with my sisters boyfriend who always thought HP was a bit shit and for little kids. And he actually loved HBP.

    And I completely disagree. I think the emotion in this movie was immense and the acting was absolutely at it's best. And I think it flowed perfectly (there were one or two moments where the editing was admittedly a little jarring).

    And everyone saying they rewrote the story is completely over-exaggerating. Fuck, I'm sick of purists.
  • Bryan97Bryan97 Posts: 15
    edited July 2009
    If you think it was that bad, then what was the best one? If I were you, just forget about the book, they do their best, do you want to sit in a theater having every single detail of the book in there, IT WOULD TAKE FOREVER! As long you watch the movie and it was good, don't criticize it. Instead talk about the positive things they have in it.
  • hp4gwhp4gw Posts: 379
    wilbo - i dont like it when someone says they are a bigger fan - but that's their opinion, i aint guna stop em
    i would never personally say it myself but...
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    [quote=hp4gw]wilbo - i dont like it when someone says they are a bigger fan - but that's their opinion, i aint guna stop em [/quote]

    Well I'm not exactly stopping them am I. I can't. I'm just calling them out on it, is all.
  • horcrux98horcrux98 Posts: 129
    can i just say the book was great yeah everyone knows that.
    well the movie wasn't as good as the book they never are but the movie was a great movie and all those people who think that they should have all the book are idiots .the movie would end up bein like 6 hours long.so if u think that i'm wrong plz comment below :)
  • keetkeet Posts: 600
    I agree horcrux98 !
    I've yet to see the movie....... 2mro i cant wait!!!
    But all the other films i thought were good, obviously they leave stuff out and add stuff in it, show me a book made to film that does excactly as the book says? doubt it you'd find one!
  • for once i actually agree with wilbo. everyone keeps commenting on the movie on how bad it is because they left out parts of the book that you see were extremely important. in order to have all of these things, it would have become repetitive, especially the pensieve scenes with dumbledore. i must say the first time i saw the movie, i was extremely angry with the way that they put the movie together, but when i saw it a second time, the movie was spectacular. the movie was very well put together, and included all of the crucial aspects of the plot.
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    [quote=sectumsempra08]for once i actually agree with wilbo.[/quote]

    Thanks for that back handed compliment, rofl.

    I do seriously suggest to everyone that they see it a second time. I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more the second time, and that's saying something cause I loved it the first time. It just gives you the opportunity to actually look at the film a tad more objectively, cause you already know what you're getting. It gives you more of a chance to actually, you know, get a feel for how good the film actually is.
  • apauloapaulo Posts: 7
    Sorry Wiblo421 being a student of film doesn't make you an expert, far from it. I am not generalising when I say the majority of people on this tread didn't appreciate the films changes in script. The message is quite clear, regardless if you are a major fan or a person like myself who enjoyed the books, the film did not really work in relation to the story line. If you bother to stick your head out of the clouds and stop enjoying the sound of your own voice for a change I strongly suggest you take notice on what the critics are saying. If you bother to read my first reply I quoted David Stratin (sic) appraisal of the film, and he is not alone drawning to the same conclusion. You are so blind sided by your own strong opinions concerning this matter you are not listening to what people are actually saying. I will remind you. People enjoyed the film, but they thought some vital parts of the book where omited. That doesn't make them purists at all, so dont quickly label people if their opinion is not the same as yours. I will go to the extent by saying I think you are a bully by how you are trying to control this tread. In my area of employment in the media industry you wouldn't last long.
    Apaulo.
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    edited July 2009
    Stop making cheap judgements of me, I didn't say me being a film student makes me an expert. AS a film student, it pisses me off when people don't treat films as films. That is what I said. I didn't say "I'm a film student, you are all wrong". The reason I AM a film student is because I love film. OF COURSE you lot are gonna piss me off.

    And I would like to point out I have read 80% of all the reviews that are on Rotten Tomatoes, and what you're saying is completely bogus and sounds like it has been said with the knowledge of probably about ten reviews. I have listened, agreed and disagreed respectfully with complaints that have come from people who looked at the film objectively (which includes on movie websites and in the real world). THEY don't complain about changes from the book. They might say "Oh, there was too much exposition here" or "the music didn't work well here" or the "the editing was shoddy here" or "So and so can't act". Those opinions (only examples, they're not real) are constructive and respectful. I'm only getting pissed off at you lot because you ARE purists on here, and you do not EVER give any form of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. I'm not saying everyone who hated the film is a purist, so STOP assuming that I am. I'm saying most purists hate the film, and you guys fall it that category I'm afraid, because you're only complaints are difference from the book.

    Label me whatever you want Apaulo, but you are making some big fucking assumptions. I AM listening to what you are saying. All you have said is that you didn't like the film because it left out important parts from the book. NOBODY on here, when they say the script was bad, has actually meant that, or if they have, they wouldn't know what a bad script was if it hit them in the face. I say that not about anybody who didn't like the script, but as I already said a million and one times, PURSISTS. Again, they are only saying differences from the book make the script crap. I do not find that opinion respectable, I'm afraid. THAT is narrow minded.

    And I don't expect I'd give a shit about your area of employment in the media if they're hiring people who can't give a constructive argument on reasons why a film is apparently "bad".

    I'm done with this argument and your quick ill judgements.
  • keetkeet Posts: 600
    I LOVED the film!
    It was so much more than what i expected, i have said in another thread what my fave things were!
    Obv the leave stuff out the film would have gone on for ages! But i do think they covered the important bits the bits that needed to go in there
    My rating 10/ 10 the best film so far in my opinion!
  • ProphecyHPProphecyHP Posts: 181
    The film was awesome!!!! I loved it!!! I think it's the best movie of Harry Potter!! Special effects and fotography were simply perfect and I think they deserve an Oscar! I specially love the cave scene, SPOILER: Dumbledore's death, The Burrow atack and when Harry drinks Felix Felicis!! The last part was really funny when Harry imites Slughorn's voice... xDxD
    Definitely I loved it and I'm going to see this movie a lot of times!!
  • domminicdomminic Posts: 14
    watched the movie...even wrote a review on it
    read it here:
    http://thedaily-blog.blogspot.com/2009/07/harry-potter-and-half-blood-prince.html

    in short, it was disappointing. i expected much more from the team. they left out a whole lot from what was written in the books. especially the fight for Hogwarts!

    though david yates did a splendid job, it was disappointing nonetheless

    guess i`ll just stick to the books for now...
  • horcrux98horcrux98 Posts: 129
    that was the worst and most in accurate review ever.
    7/10 my arse .half blood prince was 12/10
    and also it was like the best one yet.
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    [quote=domminic]guess i`ll just stick to the books for now... [/quote]

    To be honest, that's probably the best idea for purists anyway.

    I'm sorry that you didn't like the acting. I myself thought it was easily the best of the series, and everyone became good. Even Emma Watson, who was, prior to Prince, pretty damn...not good.

    I am glad though, that you were still able to give the film a 7. Horcrux98, that means he did at least give notice and credit where it's due for screenplay and direction and the technical things that would make a film a film.

    However I do agree with horcrux a bit, because I don't think changes from the books should be part of a review on a film.
  • of course movies won't be 100% the same asthe books, that's a given, but how can you say this was the best yet? Set aside what the movie misses ou...it's bland and there isn't nearly as much action as there should be. This and the DH are the most important yet, I think thy deserved a little more hard work put into them to be honest. I understand that to fit all the information in would be impossible, especially as the movie can't be like 7hours long (though I wouldn't complain!) but the Yates should have studied the book in finer detail, both HBP and DH because if he had done, I'm very ure he would have done a much better job. If I wasn't a huge fan and hadn't read the books, maybe I wouldn't have been as dissapointed as I was. Fact is, I have read HBP loooooaaads and therefore I should know what's missing and how important that is!

    e.g Burning down the Burrow...huh? Yates OBV hasnt realised the importance of it in DH.
    PLUS it's a waste of time, why put scenes in that really really shouldn't happen and then claim
    you could't fit al the details of the book in? That's a bit of crap really isn't it. Quite silly.


    I thought the actors did an amazing job, and the actions scenes there was (even the burrow one yes!) WHERE exellently directed, especially the cave scene I loved that! and the movie made me laugh...but I just don't understand how it can be 10/10 when it clearly missed the point alot of times.

    I KNOW THE MOVIES ARE SEPERATE FROM THE BOOKS (before anyone points that out) but they're going to have their work cut out on DH, as there's a hell of a lot in there that follows on from HBP. Thought there "wasn't enoguh time" to include everything in this one? Yates is going to have to do some seeerious backtracking!
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    Right, so there wasn't enough action, but you think they should have taken the Burrow attack out?

    The Burrow attack was there for a purpose. It was there to pick up the pace a little bit in the middle of the film which, otherwise, would have started dragging. It is there to serve as a stark reminder that absolutely no where is safe for Harry, and exactly how dangerous and what it means to be a friend of Harry's. The sweetest price, they'll have to pay. And, yeah, it's not like they can do magic or anything? It's not like they can just rebuild the Burrow, right? Wrong.

    Better to put something in the film that wasn't in the book yet serves a purpose than to put something in the film that wasn't in the book and serves no purpose, or a purpose which has already been covered. That is how they can add things in and still say they didn't have enough time.

    And there was a LOT of hard work put into this movie, clearly. The acting was top notch. As was set design, CGI, cinematography, screenplay and, on your own admission, the direction. I absolutely disagree that HBP was in anyway bland. It is very much a character story, and characters are more important than fights and explosions.

    HBP was easily the best yet.
  • keetkeet Posts: 600
    I quite like the fact that they change some things in the movie, makes things abit different doesnt it!
    I LOVED the film and agree with wilbo that alot of hard work has gone into the film, and i think it paid off
  • i thought the acting was totally awesome in the half blood prince, especially from tom felton. i like the movie, but i was really disappointed that the fight scene was taken out at the end, and the scene between snape and harry wasn't as epic as in the books. I felt that was one of the main parts of the book, and felt a little cheated that it wasnt in the movie. But it is still harry potter, so i'll of course always love the movie anyway
  • Wilbo421Wilbo421 Posts: 1,157
    [quote=heatherrjoy]but i was really disappointed that the fight scene was taken out at the end[/quote]

    But then if you think about it, you're going to enjoy and be more impressed with the final battle in Deathly Hallows aren't you.
  • yeah i will be! they cant get around taking that part out :p of course i'll probably be crying knowing how many of my favorite characters are going to be dying D:
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