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  • Of course I waited for a review more positive, but it's not the point. He complained about the 'no resolution' and obviously a part 1 movie cannot have a complete resolution. And about the 'slow-pacing'... the middle of the book is slow-paced too. And HBP is VERY slow-paced. And received a best rating.

    It's very strange that DH received IGN's lower rating of all series. I mean... CoS being better than DH? That's just impossible.
  • MamounMamoun Posts: 973 ✭✭✭
    [quote=Leo_Lovegood]I'm sorry but if anything is utterly stupid, it's this. How are you going to seriously call someone stupid for having a fair opinion? Yes his complaint about the non-resolution is a rather daft one but he had other fair complaints. He just didn't like it as much as the others. No issue there. And you've never seen a movie you didn't think was very good but had aspects that you really loved? I have plenty of times.

    I think you all are just angry that it's not as positive as you wanted it to be.[/quote]

    He is a critic, his job is to write a professional review. He just can't say he doesn't like it without stating proper, justified reasons like: the performances were terrible, the writing was bad, the direction sucks...etc. But to complain about no resolution in part 1 of a long film is crazy. What the hell did he expect? Voldemort dies in part 1 and then comes back in part 2? how the film makers should have improved this exactly?

    It's like writing a review for a horror film saying it lacked humor. It's not an issue in the film itself but of a viewer who apparently didn't do enough research.

    I can't wait to read his review of the part 1 of the Hobbit, then.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    As I said previously I'll wait to watch DH and see if the middle section is indeed slow-paced.

    I think that, because the first half of the film will be very action-packed, the sudden change of the pacing is the reason why it felt so slow, according to him.

    This is his only issue with the film, except for the idiotic ones: no resolution, traveling without knowing what to do, Snape's screentime.


    Anyway it's just the first review. Let's wait for the others. If they insist that the middle section is indeed slow, then there will be some sort of a problem there.

    For instance, they thought that HBP was too slow, with too much talking and almost zero action, but I found it the most interesting HP film, because of its artistic approach and its much improved performances.
    Anyway, opinions differ.
  • Anyway it's just the first review. Let's wait for the others. If they insist that the middle section is indeed slow, then there will be some sort of a problem there. [2] Totally agreed.

    I'm just waiting for others reviews.
  • [quote=flaviobessajr]It's very strange that DH received IGN's lower rating of all series. I mean... CoS being better than DH? That's just impossible.[/quote]

    No. That's just an opinion.
  • MamounMamoun Posts: 973 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    [quote=Leo_Lovegood]In YOUR opinion. The critic, and I, think otherwise
    [/quote]

    Umm, It's not an opinion, It's a fact, I meant how when you play HBP and any other HP film together, you will notice how the scenes/events happen much faster in the other films than in HBP. I know that the critics think it's perfectly paced and I do too. the slow pace is perfect for such a drama-filled film.
  • We really shouldn't be acting like this is some bad review. It was still positive and had many good things to say. Let's stay optimistic :)
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    edited November 2010
    It's not an opinion, it's a fact. [2]

    Let's stay optimistic :) [2]

    [Ok, I'm just doubling everything now! xD]
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,605 ✭✭
    the academy is made up of critics idiot

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  • [quote=Mamoun]Umm, It's not an opinion, it's a fact,[/quote]

    No, it's definitely opinion. I don't think the film moved that slowly. I think Chamber of Secrets and even Prisoner of Azkaban (my favorite) moved slower than HBP.
  • MamounMamoun Posts: 973 ✭✭✭
    Again, this is not my fanboy-ism speaking but rather my logic, this reviewer is simply not being logical.

    I'm ok with any bad review that clearly states the technical reasons behind the negative opinion.
  • Leo_LovegoodLeo_Lovegood Posts: 30
    edited November 2010
    [quote=dream_loudly]the academy is made up of critics idiot[/quote]

    LOL. No it isn't. It's made up of people who work in the film industry. The actors, the directors, writers, etc etc. Critics don't choose the nominees or winners.

    http://www.oscars.org/academy/members/index.html
  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's not really a naysayer, is he? He's expressing his views, and talking a lot of sense.
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  • [quote=LCbaseball22]Just exactly who is this naysayer Leo_Lovegood? Are they on CoS as well or IMDB or what?[/quote]

    IMDb and I do have an account on CoS but I rarely use it at all.
  • NEW REVIEW: http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1

    3/5
  • [quote=LCbaseball22]You don't happen to be Leo from the Inception board, do you? And what's your CoS account?[/quote]

    No, I didn't post there. And my CoS username is this same name.
  • MikuzHPMikuzHP Posts: 122
    [quote=Leo_Lovegood]NEW REVIEW: http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1

    3/5[/quote]

    Lol. They gave 4/5 to TRANSFORMERS 2, so their review is bullshit.
  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It seems Fuxor's thoughts were correct afterall, LOL.
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  • [quote=MikuzHP]Lol. They gave 4/5 to TRANSFORMERS 2, so their review is bullshit.[/quote]

    Except that was a different reviewer. Mark Samuels reviewed TF2. Dan Goodswen reviewed Part I
  • [quote=Cadmus_Peverell]It seems Fuxor's thoughts were correct afterall, LOL.[/quote]

    You do realize that he was joking? Though yeah his fake thoughts were correct. But even I had a feeling that this would be the general consensus
  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    [quote=Leo_Lovegood]You do realize that he was joking? [/quote]

    Rofl, yes. Ah well, I'm not too fazed...these first reviews are by no means terrible, and no doubt I'll still enjoy myself while watching it next week.
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Both reviews are pure crap. Are they f*cking idiots! Ofcourse it feels like their is no resolution! It's the f*cking first part of the movie! And then there is the complaining about 'traveling without knowing what to do' --> That's the story! I am so furious!
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    edited November 2010
    LOL

    What I found annoying was the fact that he was talking about the previous installments in a very sarcastic way (Diggory gets killed by Spall, Oldman turns into a dog, gets killed by Carter). Obviously a person who doesn't seem to really appreciate the series and the story itself.


    Anyway, this is a rather mixed review. More positive than negative, though.
    The complaint is again the fact that there's no resolution and no reason (What the fuck?) for a two-part story.
    I'd love to see one DH film that is 3 hours long and read then all the critics saying that the story was a mess, that they cut too much and that there was no proper explanation of the key scenes or whatsoever. That would be laughable.
    Interesting enough, no mention of 'slow' pacing.
  • MamounMamoun Posts: 973 ✭✭✭
    "So while it's by no means a bad Harry Potter movie, the overriding feeling is that it's an incomplete one. Here's hoping that Yates and his team put that right next summer."

    tbh, who on earth can read this and not think: "No shit?"
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    edited November 2010
    Imagine if they cut the film at the Snatcher capture!
    LOL I'd love to read this critic's reaction!

    No Malfoy Manor, no Dobby's death and burial, no Elder Wand.
  • ChrisMChrisM Posts: 60
    im not taking these reviews too seriously because they are judging the movie for the first part and its as if they're neglecting there is a second part that continues the story (resolution?). We all know what we are going to go for which is the first part of deathly hallows and not the whole story from the book. These 2 movies are meant to be watched together.
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    ITS 2 FREAKING REVIEWS, GUYS! CALM THE F*CK DOWN!

    Wait for more respectaple critics to come out!
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Goodnight LC!

    ChrisM I agree. I mean they advertise the film as 'Part 1 of the Epic Finale'. When people go to watch this, they'll have in mind that there is a second part coming soon, which means that it's one story split in two parts for a better and more complete narrative.

    It seems that, except for complaints that Snape is featured only in one scene-though the same happened in the book-and the complaint of the first critic that the middle part was slow, the other complaint is mainly the fact that there's no resolution.
    I haven't read anything substantial yet. Performances are solid, all technical aspects are better than ever...

    Let's wait for more reviews today. Loads will come. And I hope there will be some sense when it comes to the resolution complaint.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,605 ✭✭
    id bet 1 mil when part 2 reviews begin there gonna say it doesnt have a proper beginning



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  • greggreg Posts: 737 ✭✭✭
    On Total Film, they put Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix a 3/5 and another 3/5 for Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire so.. -__- A 3/5 for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 is not that bad
  • Oh guys. That's bad! :(

    Anf I think the Total Film one will be rotten at RT. It's kinda mixed, but more negative than positive. :(
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    Plus they gave Transformers 2 4 stars. Yeah...totally reliable!
  • greggreg Posts: 737 ✭✭✭
    Yeah Total Film are shit (they also put a 3/5 on The Half-Blood Prince)!

    Hey on Rotten Tomatoes there is one review and it's fresh! But we can't see the review :S
  • For me, the main problem is that the two reviewers had a consensus: they both criticize the split and the pace. This, definitly, worries me. :(
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I couldn't take the ToalFilm one seriously, considering it seemed like they were mocking all the previous films at the beginning of the review.

    Haven't read the other one yet, though.
  • halfbloodprincefilmhalfbloodprincefilm Posts: 432
    edited November 2010
    Here's a postive review from a french site (www.linternaute.com/cinema):

    *****
    Ce que j'ai aim
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    Eh...IGN never liked the HP films at a whole, so no suprise.
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good thing IGN and Total Film don't know their dicks from their titties.
  • Here's a tweet from a joames:

    "the film gives you goosebumps in the very first scene. i could feel almost-tearing up with dobby and people were crying around me"
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    So...thats great!
  • @greg: yeah i saw that too. I wish we can read the review! Here's the current standing of DH in rotten tomatoes:

    No Score Yet
    Average Rating: N/A
    Critic Reviews: 1
    Fresh: 1 | Rotten: 0
  • greggreg Posts: 737 ✭✭✭
    Exactly! I hope it's not one of the two reviews we already have -__-
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,605 ✭✭
    its the totalfilm

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  • someone posted this in imdb. this is so funny:

    Another overall negative review (guardian)...
    now I'm starting to get really worried
    http://bit.ly/bHuVY0


    hahaha i was worried when I first read this and when i saw the link, i laugh at myself :))
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Yeah it's the Total Film one which was rather mixed, leaning towards being a bit negative. While the IGN one was mixed but rather positive overall.
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    damn incomplete! its PART 1
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  • greggreg Posts: 737 ✭✭✭
    Yeah they post it on RT
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,605 ✭✭
    if the asshole on screenrant gives it a lousy review me and rich'll tear him a new asshole wont we rich?



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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,605 ✭✭
    well RT countedtotalfilm as fresh so surly it will count ign's as fresh as well


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  • Wow! At least Total Film posted as a fresh review in RT!
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