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So Yates offered Desplat a chance to compose Part Two

jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
edited October 2010 in General
After hearing "Ron Returns" (?), Yates asked if Desplat would score Part 2 of Deathly Hallows. I read this on the file that links to a leaflet from the album.

What does everybody think ?
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  • bereskibereski Posts: 354
    Williams said he will be composer.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where did either of you get this information? or are both of you neither telling the truth!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • acciohpacciohp Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭
    The booklet is in the folder called deathly hallows. Yates does say that about offering part 3 to deapalt. I wonder if he accepted?
  • acciohpacciohp Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For fucks sake, i know Desplat is good but i'm getting a little bit fed up with Yates never considering Williams over whoever he has now for the timebeing, much like with Hooper!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,605 ✭✭
    desplat score is AMAZING but williams MUST compose the final film
  • and i don't see "Ron Returns" at the list
  • I think they changed the name of the track... Ron Returns must be the new "Ron's speech"
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Theres Ron returns AND rons speech
  • no, there are Ron leaves and Ron's speech))
    track list
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Oops my bad thanks!
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Ah...interesting. The thing here is, as much as Williams is a great composer, he hasn't made anything great since the last Potter he conducted.

    I think Desplat is the only thing that, if he scored Part 2, would keep the two connected. Through the music. Otherwise the two parts would be totally, completely different.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Williams FTW hed use the hedwigs theme alot yay!!
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Hedwig's Theme does not belong in the Battle of Hogwarts. I'm sorry.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Hedwigs theme all sad when harry dies,happy hedwigs theme when harry kills voldy,i mean it would be EPIC!
  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    If there's no JW, I'd be extremely happy with Desplat for Part 2.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
    But there should be Williams, it only seems and feels right and fitting for him to finish what he started in the first place...

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    For people who don't know.

    "Abbey Road on a Friday night. Almost there with the score for Harry
    Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 1. Alexandre conducts the London
    Symphony Orchestra, is one with them, as they are with him. His energy
    and passion for the work is a joy to watch, and the music is beautiful.
    In fact, as we recorded one track the other day, Ron Returns, it so
    enchanted me, and everyone in the control room, I had to offer him the
    job of writing the music for part two on the spot after hearing it.
    Alexandre has brought so many colors and depth to the score for Hallows
    – Part 1. And he has taken on the challenge of redefi ning the musical
    landscape of the world of Potter as we bring the series of fi lms to their
    climax, with grace, humor, compassion, and empathy for the characters
    as they go through their diffi cult transition from children into adults.
    - DAVID YATES"
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    [quote=jonny7003]I had to offer him the
    job of writing the music for part two on the spot after hearing it.[/quote]

    oh no.
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    OH YES!

    And haters/people who don't like Desplat, read this:

    "First things’s first: like Nick Hooper before him, and like Patrick Doyle before him, Desplat’s score does not make any obvious references to thematic material from the previous scores, with the exception of some brief lip service to John Williams’ famous theme, ”Hedwig’s Theme”, paid in a couple of the album’s cues. This will drive Williams fans insane, especially those who clamored for Williams to return to score the finale, but the point I made in my review of Hooper’s score for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince last summer is still relevant here: the Harry Potter of Book 7 is not the Harry Potter of Book 1. He isn’t the wide eyed-innocent child at large in a new and fantastical world. He is a deeply troubled young adult, plagued by his past, surrounded by the death of his family and friends, weighed down by the pressures of an ancient prophecy, who must fight to the death to save the world which has embraced him as its savior. As such, it makes perfect sense that the flighty, whimsical nature of the first few scores has necessarily been supplanted by darker, more mature music. Owls, Quidditch games, and schoolyard rivalries are no longer Harry’s mains concerns, and so the music Williams wrote to accompany these things is naturally less important to the story. This is a story – and a score – about danger, anguish, regret, and sacrifice, and Desplat’s music inevitably reflects these things."
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    [quote=thisishogwarts]"First things’s first: like Nick Hooper before him, and like Patrick Doyle before him, Desplat’s score does not make any obvious references to thematic material from the previous scores, with the exception of some brief lip service to John Williams’ famous theme, ”Hedwig’s Theme”, paid in a couple of the album’s cues. This will drive Williams fans insane, especially those who clamored for Williams to return to score the finale, but the point I made in my review of Hooper’s score for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince last summer is still relevant here: the Harry Potter of Book 7 is not the Harry Potter of Book 1. He isn’t the wide eyed-innocent child at large in a new and fantastical world. He is a deeply troubled young adult, plagued by his past, surrounded by the death of his family and friends, weighed down by the pressures of an ancient prophecy, who must fight to the death to save the world which has embraced him as its savior. As such, it makes perfect sense that the flighty, whimsical nature of the first few scores has necessarily been supplanted by darker, more mature music. Owls, Quidditch games, and schoolyard rivalries are no longer Harry’s mains concerns, and so the music Williams wrote to accompany these things is naturally less important to the story. This is a story – and a score – about danger, anguish, regret, and sacrifice, and Desplat’s music inevitably reflects these things." [/quote]

    NOW THAT IS THE DEFFINITION OF A FILM SCORE GUYS! Hedwig's theme is old, and honestly, its in the freaking soundtrack.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    OMFG HELL NO!!!!!!! THAT MEANS THAT IT WONT BEGIN WITH HEDWIGS THEME!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    edited October 2010
    SO WHAT?

    WHY ARE PEOPLE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT HEDWIGS THEME?

    Seriouisly, listen to this soundtrack. In some cases, I thought "forget Hedwig's theme, Desplat's theme might even blow Williams out of the water"
  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    edited October 2010
    LOL I love all this drama! Desplat would be great for Part 2, but so would JW (IMO). Either one would be fantastic.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    [quote=thisishogwarts]WHY ARE PEOPLE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT HEDWIGS THEME? [/quote]

    Alex SERIOUSLY? All HP films have begun with the theme,it is very important for DH to have that theme as well i mean WTF!
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    [quote=thisishogwarts]forget Hedwig's theme, Desplat's theme might even blow Williams out of the water[/quote]

    um wich desplat theme are u refering to?
  • dashape80dashape80 Posts: 1,238
    I just want Williams to score the last film . . . I don't care if he doesn't bring back all the familiar themes from SS/PS. However, POA was and is hands down the best score of the HP series (and it's not childish).

    Again, Williams has created more popular cinematic themes than any other composer by far (I already made a list in another thread a while back). I really like Desplat's new score but it's not NEARLY as good as POA, sorry but that's my opinion and if you don't like it then Great, good for you.

    I was a HUGE fan of Williams LOOOOOONG before he scored PS/SS so I'll still be pulling for him for Part 2 until they announce who the composer is.

    If Desplat gets part 2 I'm sure he'll do a fantastic job as he is a great composer . . . I'm just saying that Williams is still the IDEAL choice and anyone but him will be a little disappointing (but guess what, I'm sure I'll live).
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  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    Yes I'm serious man. I mean, Hedwig's theme is about the happy times. THESE AREN'T HAPPY TIMES! People are dying, Voldy just took over the damn Ministry. WIlliams score won't match up to Desplat's range of emotions.

    And the theme I'm referring to is the new sound he brings. Where Williams only stayed close to the magical feel, Desplat ranges from action to emotion and even, in some cases, tops Williams magic score.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    edited October 2010
    THEY CAN SURE AS HELL MAKE A FUCKING DARK HEDWIGS THEME CANT THEY???
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    Seriously, to all the people saying Williams must finish the series...by that logic Chris Columbus should also have returned to finish what he started. And that my friends is a most horrific notion. -_-

    As for Hedwig's theme, there's no place for it in the movies anymore. It's a theme that symbolises innocence and therefore is completely inappropriate. I'd be thrilled if Desplat returns.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    [quote=dashape80]I just want Williams to score the last film . . . I don't care if he doesn't bring back all the familiar themes from SS/PS. However, POA was and is hands down the best score of the HP series (and it's not childish).

    Again, Williams has created more popular cinematic themes than any other composer by far (I already made a list in another thread a while back). I really like Desplat's new score but it's not NEARLY as good as POA, sorry but that's my opinion and if you don't like it then Great, good for you.

    I was a HUGE fan of Williams LOOOOOONG before he scored PS/SS so I'll still be pulling for him for Part 2 until they announce who the composer is.

    If Desplat gets part 2 I'm sure he'll do a fantastic job as he is a great composer . . . I'm just saying that Williams is still the IDEAL choice and anyone but him will be a little disappointing (but guess what, I'm sure I'll live). [/quote]

    you said it all :D
  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    But Hedwig died. Why should it be needed anymore ?
  • dashape80dashape80 Posts: 1,238
    [quote=Braveheart]Seriously, to all the people saying Williams must finish the series...by that logic Chris Columbus should also have returned to finish what he started. And that my friends is a most horrific notion. -_- [/quote]

    You're trying to compare composers with directors, not good logic. Do I need to do a Williams score listing all over again? LOL
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    [quote=dashape80]Do I need to do a Williams score listing all over again? LOL [/quote]

    i think you do,these ppl dont understand.
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    I have a question: have you guys even heard, outside the samples, Desplat score? If so, why did it fail to Williams score?
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    i dont get your question alex.
  • thisishogwartsthisishogwarts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭
    I'm asking, did you listen the score yet? If not, then how can you judge Desplat's score from the samples alone, cause it totally diffrent outside the samples.
  • dashape80dashape80 Posts: 1,238
    edited October 2010
    [quote=thisishogwarts]I'm asking, did you listen the score yet? If not, then how can you judge Desplat's score from the samples alone, cause it totally diffrent outside the samples. [/quote]

    I've heard the whole score . . .downloaded it from the link on this site. (actually I've listened to it all the through twice while listening to individual pieces of it multiple times.)
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    [quote=thisishogwarts]did you listen the score yet? [/quote]


    yes i listened to MOST of the score i downloaded it but i couldnt find the file so i didnt hear some of them. But i listened to MOST it was EPIC.
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    If the basis of your argument is that he should return because he started the series (which for many people it is their argument) then yes, it is good logic.

    As for Williams, he went stale a while ago. In fact, a lot of his scores sound the same (even more so than with other composers), he reuses the same cues and themes time and again. Time to pass the baton to a new generation methinks. And Desplat is a perfect replacement.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    [quote=Braveheart]If the basis of your argument is that he should return because he started the series (which for many people it is their argument) then yes, it is good logic. [/quote]


    No actually thats not why. Its because his music is so magical everyone knows about him...
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
    And "magical" is not one of the aspects appropriate for the final films, I'm afraid. That was only appropriate for the first few.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    The final one must feel magiccally horrific.

    Willam should mix jaws with hedwig theme lol
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    I d like to see how williams would do it. Iam very curius. So u guys dont think williams can pull it off?
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dosent matter HE IS NOT COMING BACK
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Nick how do you know?

    But the best is williams if he did it it would be much better im sure
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
    I don't think that Hedwig's Theme should be cut from the last two movies. Obviously it's in part 1 because is somewhat there in a couple of tracks.
    Yes, part 2 doesn't really fit the theme, but Richards right, they could make it darker.

    BUT, but the very end, it's a new start for the epilogue kids. I think it would be appropriate if they could end the movie with the iconic theme as the kids are heading off on the train, to start their magical educations. The theme would fit there. I can hear it in my head, as the train goes off (or the trio is standing there..whatever their going to do) and the theme plays and is the final tune you hear as the Potter series comes to it's close. I think it's appropriate to close the series with the theme.

    Hedwig being dead doesn't necessarily mean that the theme should die too. That doesn't really make sense. It's not really a theme just for Hedwig. It's the theme for the whole series. It shouldn't die with Hedwig.
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