I really enjoyed The Amazing Spider-Man 2. It is a strong sequel, with performance and overall improvements over the first film, epic action sequences, and story progressions that improve upon and shed a light on what has been and what will be with future films.
Agree with everything you said in your review mate. I loved basically every every bit of it. It's a huge step up from the first (which I loved as well). The characters are great and the story is fittingly dark at times. It does what the 3rd film of the original trilogy failed to do and that is to weave in every villain appropriately without making it seem convoluted or messy. Even Paul Giamatti's cameo was perfect and I think his presence set up what's to come very nicely. I think Marc Webb found the right consistency between the romantic aspects of the story and the actual plot itself. Bloody Hans Zimmer too. It's such a modernised score and nothing like anything he's done but it still manages to work brilliantly into the film.
Absolutely. It met my expectations perfectly, and really did get right what Spider-Man 3 didn't. Though I was hoping that Shailene Woodley would still make a cameo, as a nice little surprise, but ah well. Hopefully she will be part of the next film, because she's a pretty great actress. The only thing that I didn't like was the stuff in the trailers that wasn't in the film (like Harry telling Peter he was being monitored by Oscorp, Norman having 'plans' for Peter) but it still worked well, seeing as with all the footage the trailers showed, it misdirected you to what the actual plot of the movie was.
The final scenes with Harry and the Gentleman setting up for the Sinister Six were very well done, to the point that the whole resolution felt like it was a suitable conclusion to a series right there. Though I'm disappointed in a lack of post-credits scene. I read somewhere that it was meant to be the Gentleman strolling through the Special Projects room to Norman Osborn's cryogenically frozen head, saying something like 'Time to wake up, old friend' or something. But they didn't have it.
Yeah I think the trailers were very deceiving in the way it was all marketed and I'm starting to realise those pivotal scenes that were in the trailers but not in the film itself. But yeah, everyone thought they'd gone way too far with the amount of footage they had released but they didn't really after watching it. Although I still wished they toned it down a little. Like I think the whole Harry becoming the green goblin could have been kept secret and been a nice surprise to experience in the cinema. But oh well.
I loved that building tension towards the end! Those few lines Harry gives when he says something like "I just want a small team". I was like mentally fist-pumping in the air because of what they were alluding to.
And tell me about it, teasing X-Men was so lame. I know it had something to do with Marc Webb's contract but ehh, I would have liked something related to the Spiderman universe like that one you read about. That would've been awesome.
Yeah I think the trailers were very deceiving in the way it was all marketed and I'm starting to realise those pivotal scenes that were in the trailers but not in the film itself. But yeah, everyone thought they'd gone way too far with the amount of footage they had released but they didn't really after watching it. Although I still wished they toned it down a little. Like I think the whole Harry becoming the green goblin could have been kept secret and been a nice surprise to experience in the cinema. But oh well.
I loved that building tension towards the end! Those few lines Harry gives when he says something like "I just want a small team". I was like mentally fist-pumping in the air because of what they were alluding to.
And tell me about it, teasing X-Men was so lame. I know it had something to do with Marc Webb's contract but ehh, I would have liked something related to the Spiderman universe like that one you read about. That would've been awesome.
[spoiler] I know! I was wildly theorising about it and everything, that instead of dying, Norman just froze himself until a cure was perfected, knowing that Harry would test it on himself so that Norman could see the results or something, I dunno. Chris Cooper is meant to have signed on for a later film, so we've definitely not seen the last of him.
But yeah, Dane's performance as the Goblin was brilliant, if short lived. All that vicious snarling was actually terrifying. It would've been cool to keep it a secret, but I suppose seeing shots of Dane as the Goblin in the trailer got me more excited. If Norman is indeed still alive, I do hope he takes up the Goblin mantle at some point, because Cooper managed to nail Norman Osborn in that one scene alone.
Yeah that's an interesting theory which is actually quite plausible. I reckon there's no doubt that Norman Osbourne is still alive. Like, casting such an actor like Chris Cooper for such an iconic role; they wouldn't have done that only to give him one big scene. He'll surely return and probably in a very similar way to as you theorised.
Yeah Harry's Goblin was short lived which kinda sucked but I think Dane definitely made up for it with the scenes he was given which developed his character superbly. I was genuinely terrified of him on screen, even pre-goblin phase.
Damn now I can't stop thinking about it. Cooper could pull off an amazing Green Goblin. I want to see that now.
I'm sad i disliked this movie, heck i even disliked Gwen. I loved her in the first movie and i love Emma but i disliked the Peter-Gwen drama so much that it basically ruined the movie for me. The writers should go feel shame for this mess.
Man, what a disappointment this movie was. Hoped that, with such an awesome cast, the critics were exaggerating. Unfortunately, they weren't, at least for me. The Peter-Gwen romance still is the saving grace of the franchise, and dramatic moments are actually pulled quite well. Not so much for the comedy, which feels misused and downright weird sometimes.
But my main problem is that the movie doesn't decide what it want to be: action, comedy, drama, romance, or even a balance between them. Sloppy writing all around (probably a courtesy of the adorable duo Alex Kurtzman-Roberto Orci). 6.5 max.
And what pisses me off even more, is that, although it had these big issues, I ended up curious for the sequel (the last act of the movie picked up considerably).
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The score was awesome... Leagues ahead of the first. I love the story. People keep panning the script but I followed it fine and actually enjoyed it more because of the different threads. I think it set up the bigger picture with MJ and the Sinister Six perfect.
Who didn't get chills when they saw Doc Ock's arms and the Vulture's wings at Oscorp?
"If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."
I honestly disagree. With all due respect to everyone here's opinion, I see exactly the point of why this movie is being bashed. Spider Man is about a mix of action, drama, comedy and romance, true! But they managed that combination pretty bad. The script is a mess, the villains are badly written and developed, the story feels overstuffed, yet bland, and the action sometimes is good, but sometimes becomes a CGI-fest and starts to distract.
As I said before, the only salvageable thing is the romance, and the more dramatic moments, which is stuff Marc and his cast knows how to pull very well (talking about that: what a cast! But so misused, wtf Chris Cooper was doing there, for one miserable scene? And Paul Giamatti with the worst acting of his career?).
But, of course, that's just one man's opinion.
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I want to write a respectful counter disagreement to all of that, because I thought all of the tone management, script and characters were done just fine, and the story's multiple plots all flowed nicely. I've seen it twice now, because the second time around, I like to think more critically about a film, so that the excitement doesn't get in the way of it all.
BUT it's 2am, and I can't think properly enough to write down all my thoughts. So I'll leave it at that; I found all of those things very well handled. I can maybe see why some people may have thought ill of certain aspects, but watching the film again, I don't understand why people say it was poorly done. I just can't grasp that. But no disrespect to you, of course.
I'm seeing it today, and it sounds like, with varying opinions of course, this movie fell prey to the similar problems of Spidey 3. Too many underdeveloped villains, overstuffed, poor balance and different parts of the movie.
I do know Gwen dies (I think any Spidey fan knows she will), and I'm seeing it with my sis. She hasn't seen the first, but I gave her a plot summary and she said "it's a good thing I didn't see that, I would've cried when his uncle dies."
I want to write a respectful counter disagreement to all of that, because I thought all of the tone management, script and characters were done just fine, and the story's multiple plots all flowed nicely. I've seen it twice now, because the second time around, I like to think more critically about a film, so that the excitement doesn't get in the way of it all.
BUT it's 2am, and I can't think properly enough to write down all my thoughts. So I'll leave it at that; I found all of those things very well handled. I can maybe see why some people may have thought ill of certain aspects, but watching the film again, I don't understand why people say it was poorly done. I just can't grasp that. But no disrespect to you, of course.
I second this. I can't see any reasonable evidence that any of that is true. The villains were tragic, the story flowed, the climax goes down as one of the most emotional in comic history...
"If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."
Well said. There's a reason of why the film was very long. They wanted to develop things with respect, even though Sony screwed with some of the original script.
What I always loved about Spiderman and why he's my favorite superhero is the human element. The story is about people and relationships, and the fact that Spiderman interferes and interacts with that.
In contrast, Batman feels like it's him vs villains. Spiderman does not feel that way.
Human element was definitely felt, and it felt real. I mean, not all the electro and goblin shit, nah, but the relationships. The struggle. It felt personal. And I liked it.
My sister loved it. As soon as it finished she said "I think that's my new favorite movie ever." Then again she's a 14 year old girl that's easily moved and whatnot, so yeah
Does anyone here dispute the fact that the two Webb films are the most personal superhero flicks of all time?
I could seriously feel my gut being ripped out on and off throughout... I knew 'it' was coming last night and still I was nervous and twitching during the lead up. It was so damn good.
"If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."
Does anyone here dispute the fact that the two Webb films are the most personal superhero flicks of all time?
I could seriously feel my gut being ripped out on and off throughout... I knew 'it' was coming last night and still I was nervous and twitching during the lead up. It was so damn good.
Yeah, me too. My heart was racing once Harry dropped Gwen the first time, haha.
The movie was great but my friends were pissed off about a certain character death in the end. Saw it in the RPX Dolby Atmos theater. Dane Dehann really stood out to me, he made me actually feel for Harry and kinda cheer him on. Jamie Foxx was also great and THE MUSIC! HANS F**KING ZIMMER. The Time Square sequence was amazing. (No pun intended)
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Zimmer did pretty well, though I'm rather tired of the minimalist approach he has with more intimate scenes. Like, Gwen's theme for instance, in most scenes is just an incredibly simple piano melody with ambience. Same with Peter's. He did the same thing for Man of Steel. Whereas Horner's score for the previous film was so much more complex and interesting. Peter's theme is just divine, especially in I Can't See You Anymore.
But he does action sequences excellently. Electro's theme was really creative, with all the little voices in Max's head, and the little motif that plays for the Goblin is really unnerving, especially in Sum Total (Harry's transformation). It's one of my favourite scores at the moment, but like always, he has me wanting something more from it.
Does anyone here dispute the fact that the two Webb films are the most personal superhero flicks of all time?
I could seriously feel my gut being ripped out on and off throughout... I knew 'it' was coming last night and still I was nervous and twitching during the lead up. It was so damn good.
Seriously, that's what I love about Spidey and why I enjoyed this movie. Right in the motherfucking feels.
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Lol did NumberEight write this.
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Lord Stafford.
I was really pleased.
And tell me about it, teasing X-Men was so lame. I know it had something to do with Marc Webb's contract but ehh, I would have liked something related to the Spiderman universe like that one you read about. That would've been awesome.
But yeah, Dane's performance as the Goblin was brilliant, if short lived. All that vicious snarling was actually terrifying. It would've been cool to keep it a secret, but I suppose seeing shots of Dane as the Goblin in the trailer got me more excited. If Norman is indeed still alive, I do hope he takes up the Goblin mantle at some point, because Cooper managed to nail Norman Osborn in that one scene alone.
Yeah Harry's Goblin was short lived which kinda sucked but I think Dane definitely made up for it with the scenes he was given which developed his character superbly. I was genuinely terrified of him on screen, even pre-goblin phase.
Damn now I can't stop thinking about it. Cooper could pull off an amazing Green Goblin. I want to see that now.
Lord Stafford.
But my main problem is that the movie doesn't decide what it want to be: action, comedy, drama, romance, or even a balance between them. Sloppy writing all around (probably a courtesy of the adorable duo Alex Kurtzman-Roberto Orci). 6.5 max.
And what pisses me off even more, is that, although it had these big issues, I ended up curious for the sequel (the last act of the movie picked up considerably).
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I CRIED AT THE END! So hard!!! I haven't felt that way since TDKR and HP8 before it.
I love the story. People keep panning the script but I followed it fine and actually enjoyed it more because of the different threads. I think it set up the bigger picture with MJ and the Sinister Six perfect.
Who didn't get chills when they saw Doc Ock's arms and the Vulture's wings at Oscorp?
As I said before, the only salvageable thing is the romance, and the more dramatic moments, which is stuff Marc and his cast knows how to pull very well (talking about that: what a cast! But so misused, wtf Chris Cooper was doing there, for one miserable scene? And Paul Giamatti with the worst acting of his career?).
But, of course, that's just one man's opinion.
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.
BUT it's 2am, and I can't think properly enough to write down all my thoughts. So I'll leave it at that; I found all of those things very well handled. I can maybe see why some people may have thought ill of certain aspects, but watching the film again, I don't understand why people say it was poorly done. I just can't grasp that. But no disrespect to you, of course.
Damn she's about to be in for some tears."
What I always loved about Spiderman and why he's my favorite superhero is the human element. The story is about people and relationships, and the fact that Spiderman interferes and interacts with that.
In contrast, Batman feels like it's him vs villains. Spiderman does not feel that way.
Human element was definitely felt, and it felt real. I mean, not all the electro and goblin shit, nah, but the relationships. The struggle. It felt personal. And I liked it.
My sister loved it. As soon as it finished she said "I think that's my new favorite movie ever." Then again she's a 14 year old girl that's easily moved and whatnot, so yeah
I could seriously feel my gut being ripped out on and off throughout... I knew 'it' was coming last night and still I was nervous and twitching during the lead up. It was so damn good.
Yea @Jason I was shocked at how it was shown... It hit me hard.
But he does action sequences excellently. Electro's theme was really creative, with all the little voices in Max's head, and the little motif that plays for the Goblin is really unnerving, especially in Sum Total (Harry's transformation). It's one of my favourite scores at the moment, but like always, he has me wanting something more from it.