the laketown attack alone is not enough forva 3 hour film if this is true (of which there is no evidence) there is too little in this film and too much in film 3 both of these battles are sure to be at least an hour and then theres certain deaths and bilbo getting home and ho w are the affairs of the men and elves goung to stretch to 3 hours and wb will never lets film 3 be 4 hours
yeah I think film 2 is the most packed...theres so many things going on...its film 3 that doesnt have that much of content.
Film three isn't lacking in content. The aftermath of the events that will take place in The Desolation of Smaug will take up a bit of time, as will the attack on Dol Guldur. Then we have the Battle of the Five Armies and the aftermath of that, which will also take up plenty of time.
1. The introduction. In the scene where even the Elves come to pay homage to the Arkenstone, they show the scene with Thranduil approaching the throne. The new part is that Thror motions for a dwarf to bring forward a big chest of gorgeous jewels, which he presents to Thranduil. Thranduil looks entranced, and reaches for the gems, but the dwarf cruelly closes the lid before Thranduil can reach it. (I suspect this is where a lot of Thranduil’s animosity toward dwarves comes from!)
2. In Bilbo’s introduction, “this is where I come in…” and there’s a flashback scene to a party in the Shire (likely one of the Old Took’s midsummer parties), with Gandalf setting off lovely fireworks. A small hobbit boy comes running up to Gandalf and starts batting at him playfully, trying to catch his sleeves. The boy is young Bilbo, and we see his mother Belladonna come running after him to tell him to stop before embracing Gandalf as an old friend. (I don’t remember who plays Belladonna, but she’s lovely… dark hair in curls. I looked in the credits to see who was listed, but didn’t recognize the name and didn’t have a pen to write it down with.)
[There was a rumour on the internet that Belladonna Baggins (nee Took) would be played by Fran Walsh herself, as the picture of Bilbo's mother seen hanging in Bag End in Fellowship of the Ring was based on Walsh. Given Walsh's tendency to shy away from publicity, however, it seems unlikely she would take on such a role. We do know that Katie Jackson appeared as a hobbit in AUJ; could she possibly have taken up the Belladonna mantle from her mother?]
3. After Gandalf meets Bilbo on the front bench, Bilbo goes into Hobbiton to buy himself his supper. He’s suspiciously looking everywhere to make sure Gandalf isn’t still around, as he buys his fish and talks to a neighbor. It’s actually a very funny scene, because he sees a gray hat-shaped form behind a wall and runs for it to avoid Gandalf, but it’s actually just another Hobbit carrying a tall load
4. There were a lot of small little bits added in to the scene with the dwarves in Bilbo’s house -— I can’t remember them all, but they added some nice bits of character.
Rivendell had the most new scenes, from what I can recall… I was so pleased with this entire part of the extended edition, and wish they’d kept all of these bits in the original movie!
5. Kili is sitting at the table and he glances over at one of the Elvish musicians and catches her eye… and then winks at her. Dwalin catches him flirting with the Elf, and gives him a dirty look, and Kili quickly starts making excuses… “None of them are attractive, not enough facial hair! That’s what I want in a woman, a good beard” and so on and so forth. Dwalin obviously doesn’t believe any of Kili’s shit. Then Kili points to another Elf and says, “Although, that one isn’t so bad,” and Dwalin gives him a level looks and says, “That’s a male.” and everyone bursts out laughing, to Kili’s embarrassment.
Bofur 6. After Ori complains about the green food, we see Nori complaining to the harp player because the music sounds like he’s at a funeral. He asks her to change it up a bit. Bofur leaps to his feat and then climbs the nearest object (a round stone sculpture that might very well be what Frodo sets the ring on when the Fellowship first meets in LOTR) and starts to sing and throw food. The other dwarves quickly join in. The song was brilliant, I wish I could remember it! And then one of the dwarves throws a big chunk of food at Lindir, and the look on his face!! We also see Nori slide a fancy salt-shaker into his jacket pocket.
[This is the song James Nesbitt was hoping would be back in the Extended Edition, as he told TORn in this interview. A Ringer spy tells us that this song is in fact 'The Man in the Moon', as sung by Frodo in The Fellowship of the Ring.]
7. There was a scene with Thorin after Elrond explains about the swords, but I honestly can’t remember it. I’m going over and over with it in my head, and I’m blanking.
8. A scene where Lindir and Elrond are walking through Rivendell. Lindir says, “My lord, the kitchens are being severely strained, and we’re almost entirely out of wine. When are these dwarves leaving?” and Elrond gives a non-answer. They turn the corner, and the dwarves are all in a large fountain, stripped down to their smallclothes, and stacked three high on each other’s shoulders, having a battle to push over the other dwarf-tower.
9. While the dwarves are burning furniture and Bofur is throwing sausages to Bombur, Bilbo is outside on the stairs next to their balcony.
He spots Gandalf and Elrond walking and listens in on their conversation. They’re discussing Erebor and Thorin, and how Thorin’s retaking of the Mountain could give the side of Good a stronghold in the East. Elrond points out, though, that Thror and Thrain both went mad, and the same fate is very likely in store for Thorin. Bilbo turns around, and Thorin is standing behind him, looking devastated but obviously not denying the possibility. It’s a really intimate moment between Bilbo and Thorin, this realization that a) they’re being manipulated to give the side of Good a better foothold, and b) that Elrond is so clinically discussing Thorin’s eventual madness, and Bilbo is now aware of what may be to come.
10. In the Goblin caves, there are two scenes that are new. The first is the Goblin King singing a song as the company is brought forward. All of the Goblins join in. It’s a pretty bad song (both musically and lyrically) about torture and the like. I actually enjoyed it, though; I like the characterization it gives the Goblin King.
11. When the Goblin King comes forward to start interrogating (Ori, the youngest), all of the company quickly step forward to try to stall. Oin comes forward and says that he’s the one they need to talk to, but his ear trumpet has been squashed so he can’t hear anything. Bofur then steps forward and pretends to be in charge. “How did we get here? Well that’s a funny story. We were traveling down the road. Well, you can’t really call it a road. A path. We were traveling down a path. No, not even that… a trail. So we were traveling down a trail, on our way to a meeting of our kin!” and so on. Finally Thorin steps forward.
12. When the Goblin King orders the dwarves to be searched, one of the goblins dumps a big pile of Nori’s stolen goods on the ground. There are spoons and an Elvish candlestick (“Second Age Elvish make”, the Goblin King declares, “You couldn’t give this away,” and he tosses it aside) and more. Someone (I think it was Dori) gives Nori grief about it, and Nori just shrugs and grins. I love this characterization of Nori, because Jed Brophy has talked before about how he wanted Nori’s character to be a thief, and but we never got to see any of that characterization before.
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dol guildur 1 hour battle of five armies prep 45 min to 1 hour battle itself 1 hour to 90 mins certain deaths and bilbo going home 30 to 45 min
total 3.5 to 4 + 1/4 hours
Adam, for fucks sake, it'll all fit as it needs to, just stop panicking. I'd like to read the thread without you going 'BUT THEY HAVE TO CRAM THIS IN HERE' over and over. There's no need to keep repeating your concerns over what I'm sure a mastermind like Peter Jackson has already figured out. So sort it, or abort it.
all 3 films were sposed to be the same length as film 1 wuth film 3 possibly being longer why would peter Jackson the king of long films make this film with so much more going on shorter than film 1 if he wasnt under pressure
They're not forcing PETER JACKSON to do ANY thing. The director of two back to back billion dollar middle earth movies, both of which were over 150 min, being forced to shorten a movie?
Are you a fucking moron?
Out of the top 15 highest grossing films of all time 75% are well over 150 min. Tell me now that you make sense? You don't.
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AUJ is released crybabies bitch bout 169 min runtime announcement that dos which has twice as much going on than auj will be 13 min shorter how can u not see a pattern
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dol guildur 1 hour
battle of five armies prep 45 min to 1 hour
battle itself 1 hour to 90 mins
certain deaths and bilbo going home 30 to 45 min
total 3.5 to 4 + 1/4 hours
1. The introduction. In the scene where even the Elves come to pay homage to the Arkenstone, they show the scene with Thranduil approaching the throne. The new part is that Thror motions for a dwarf to bring forward a big chest of gorgeous jewels, which he presents to Thranduil. Thranduil looks entranced, and reaches for the gems, but the dwarf cruelly closes the lid before Thranduil can reach it. (I suspect this is where a lot of Thranduil’s animosity toward dwarves comes from!)
2. In Bilbo’s introduction, “this is where I come in…” and there’s a flashback scene to a party in the Shire (likely one of the Old Took’s midsummer parties), with Gandalf setting off lovely fireworks. A small hobbit boy comes running up to Gandalf and starts batting at him playfully, trying to catch his sleeves. The boy is young Bilbo, and we see his mother Belladonna come running after him to tell him to stop before embracing Gandalf as an old friend. (I don’t remember who plays Belladonna, but she’s lovely… dark hair in curls. I looked in the credits to see who was listed, but didn’t recognize the name and didn’t have a pen to write it down with.)
[There was a rumour on the internet that Belladonna Baggins (nee Took) would be played by Fran Walsh herself, as the picture of Bilbo's mother seen hanging in Bag End in Fellowship of the Ring was based on Walsh. Given Walsh's tendency to shy away from publicity, however, it seems unlikely she would take on such a role. We do know that Katie Jackson appeared as a hobbit in AUJ; could she possibly have taken up the Belladonna mantle from her mother?]
3. After Gandalf meets Bilbo on the front bench, Bilbo goes into Hobbiton to buy himself his supper. He’s suspiciously looking everywhere to make sure Gandalf isn’t still around, as he buys his fish and talks to a neighbor. It’s actually a very funny scene, because he sees a gray hat-shaped form behind a wall and runs for it to avoid Gandalf, but it’s actually just another Hobbit carrying a tall load
4. There were a lot of small little bits added in to the scene with the dwarves in Bilbo’s house -— I can’t remember them all, but they added some nice bits of character.
Rivendell had the most new scenes, from what I can recall… I was so pleased with this entire part of the extended edition, and wish they’d kept all of these bits in the original movie!
5. Kili is sitting at the table and he glances over at one of the Elvish musicians and catches her eye… and then winks at her. Dwalin catches him flirting with the Elf, and gives him a dirty look, and Kili quickly starts making excuses… “None of them are attractive, not enough facial hair! That’s what I want in a woman, a good beard” and so on and so forth. Dwalin obviously doesn’t believe any of Kili’s shit. Then Kili points to another Elf and says, “Although, that one isn’t so bad,” and Dwalin gives him a level looks and says, “That’s a male.” and everyone bursts out laughing, to Kili’s embarrassment.
Bofur 6. After Ori complains about the green food, we see Nori complaining to the harp player because the music sounds like he’s at a funeral. He asks her to change it up a bit. Bofur leaps to his feat and then climbs the nearest object (a round stone sculpture that might very well be what Frodo sets the ring on when the Fellowship first meets in LOTR) and starts to sing and throw food. The other dwarves quickly join in. The song was brilliant, I wish I could remember it! And then one of the dwarves throws a big chunk of food at Lindir, and the look on his face!! We also see Nori slide a fancy salt-shaker into his jacket pocket.
[This is the song James Nesbitt was hoping would be back in the Extended Edition, as he told TORn in this interview. A Ringer spy tells us that this song is in fact 'The Man in the Moon', as sung by Frodo in The Fellowship of the Ring.]
7. There was a scene with Thorin after Elrond explains about the swords, but I honestly can’t remember it. I’m going over and over with it in my head, and I’m blanking.
8. A scene where Lindir and Elrond are walking through Rivendell. Lindir says, “My lord, the kitchens are being severely strained, and we’re almost entirely out of wine. When are these dwarves leaving?” and Elrond gives a non-answer. They turn the corner, and the dwarves are all in a large fountain, stripped down to their smallclothes, and stacked three high on each other’s shoulders, having a battle to push over the other dwarf-tower.
9. While the dwarves are burning furniture and Bofur is throwing sausages to Bombur, Bilbo is outside on the stairs next to their balcony.
He spots Gandalf and Elrond walking and listens in on their conversation. They’re discussing Erebor and Thorin, and how Thorin’s retaking of the Mountain could give the side of Good a stronghold in the East. Elrond points out, though, that Thror and Thrain both went mad, and the same fate is very likely in store for Thorin. Bilbo turns around, and Thorin is standing behind him, looking devastated but obviously not denying the possibility. It’s a really intimate moment between Bilbo and Thorin, this realization that a) they’re being manipulated to give the side of Good a better foothold, and b) that Elrond is so clinically discussing Thorin’s eventual madness, and Bilbo is now aware of what may be to come.
10. In the Goblin caves, there are two scenes that are new. The first is the Goblin King singing a song as the company is brought forward. All of the Goblins join in. It’s a pretty bad song (both musically and lyrically) about torture and the like. I actually enjoyed it, though; I like the characterization it gives the Goblin King.
11. When the Goblin King comes forward to start interrogating (Ori, the youngest), all of the company quickly step forward to try to stall. Oin comes forward and says that he’s the one they need to talk to, but his ear trumpet has been squashed so he can’t hear anything. Bofur then steps forward and pretends to be in charge. “How did we get here? Well that’s a funny story. We were traveling down the road. Well, you can’t really call it a road. A path. We were traveling down a path. No, not even that… a trail. So we were traveling down a trail, on our way to a meeting of our kin!” and so on. Finally Thorin steps forward.
12. When the Goblin King orders the dwarves to be searched, one of the goblins dumps a big pile of Nori’s stolen goods on the ground. There are spoons and an Elvish candlestick (“Second Age Elvish make”, the Goblin King declares, “You couldn’t give this away,” and he tosses it aside) and more. Someone (I think it was Dori) gives Nori grief about it, and Nori just shrugs and grins. I love this characterization of Nori, because Jed Brophy has talked before about how he wanted Nori’s character to be a thief, and but we never got to see any of that characterization before.
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WBs grip on the hobbit trilogy may have tightned
there is someone claiming to have been invited to a DOS screening
and the runtime on his invite is only 156 miniutes
13 miniute shorter than AUJ
This is WBS doing
http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=653865;sb=post_time;so=DESC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread
Also remember that Enya wrote a love theme for Aragorn and Arwen in FOTR, which it was orchestrated by Shore.
Are you a fucking moron?
Out of the top 15 highest grossing films of all time 75% are well over 150 min. Tell me now that you make sense? You don't.
crybabies bitch bout 169 min runtime
announcement that dos which has twice as much going on than auj will be 13 min shorter
how can u not see a pattern