Well, won't it? The Hunger Games is popular and becoming even more so, while this is growing a strong, loyal fanbase. The purpose of having "A Must for fans of The Hunger Games" is to draw people in; otherwise, why have it printed on the book?
Don't like how big they made that qoute, TMR doesn't need THG to do well. I feel like it might even turn off some people from reading the books cause they'll think it's a rip off or something.
Well, won't it? The Hunger Games is popular and becoming even more so, while this is growing a strong, loyal fanbase. The purpose of having "A Must for fans of The Hunger Games" is to draw people in; otherwise, why have it printed on the book?
Don't like how big they made that qoute, TMR doesn't need THG to do well. I feel like it might even turn off some people from reading the books cause they'll think it's a rip off or something.
Exactly. It generates unnecessary comparisons. Let see how the critics are going to react to the movie.
Don't like how big they made that qoute, TMR doesn't need THG to do well. I feel like it might even turn off some people from reading the books cause they'll think it's a rip off or something.
I didn't say it did need need it, but if I'm a fan of The Hunger Games and I'm not thinking everything else is ripping it off, I'm going to chance giving this a read. If I like it, I may pass it on to my family and friends, who may then pass it on to their family and friends. It is generating interest, and for a book to succeed, that is needed. Without success, would we be looking at a film release? No, but my general point is, if any of you intend to watch Catching Fire in November, don't be at all surprised if you see a Maze Runner trailer with it.
The beginning seems so rushed. The moment he goes out to save Alby and Minho happens early on. Glad Wes decided to keep in Ben's banishment, that should help.
I love that the Maze has different types of corridors. Desert corridor, which is filled with hot sand. Grassland corridor, which is full of high grass and thorn bushes that snap shut if you get caught in it. Jungle corridor, that's filled with vines. Stone corridor, which is just stone, but certain tiles on the floor break apart and collapse into an abyss. And finally the boulder corridor, which is a volcanic corridor full of boulders and fire.
It really makes the maze a lot more interesting than it already was. I hope it's not cut cause of the budget.
Yeah. He messed with character personalities and a whole bunch of other things. There were few parts that I liked, mostly in the beginning, but the end... Just no.
Glad it was just a draft and Wes most likely re-wrote the majority of it.
Okay, my opinions from the rough reading I did on the early script (Imma put in spoiler tag even though I don't think might be needed):
-Yeah, the beginning was kinda rushed, although I believe it was for the best. The beginning of the book is kinda slow, until the appearance of Teresa. But, with the changes in the story more faithful to the book, I wonder how they're gonna play out.
-Didn't like some character transformations and changes in the story. Ben being cut from the story, and Newt becoming this sort of dickish henchman, instead of the nice guy just took out interesting subplots and personalities.
-As Jason said, I did find nice the Maze being composed by various formats - lava, jungle, desert...
-Change in some characters' names felt random sometimes. I know Frypan is kinda tacky, but taking in consideration his personality it made sense. Change it to Winston though, didn't.
-Clint has more presence in the script and Gally's role is kinda different, he's still an asshole but had some important part in the formation of the Glade. His influence and coup d'etat in the Glade did added a bit more to the character, instead of the "crazy annoying prick" he was in the book. In some ways, it felt that Oppenheim took characteristics from Newt and passed it to Gally, like his limping and more calm attitude in the third act, besides turning sides and becoming a good guy.
-Alby taking Gally's place in killing Chuck: okay, that was all right, but the thing about him becoming obsessed in staying on the Glade felt somehow farfetched. Although I already know that won't happen in the movie.
-The flashbacks were nice, added some quick explanation to everything that happened in the outside world and with Thomas and Teresa as kids. Although I didn't like the way Teresa and Thomas's relationship developed. Falled in love too fast (yes, they already kiss in this story).
-The idea behind this version of the Glade is different: they keep sending Thomas and Teresa to it, with new kids, but everytime they fail, all of them die, and they are taken to do it again. They will repeat the process until they can solve the maze. Kinda cruel but interesting idea, but in terms of continuity, I think it could cause some problems.
-The fight in the Glade was a nice battle, but I didn't enjoyed much of the final battle that happens in the Hive. Found the action there kinda muddled.
-The ending: no, I didn't liked it at all. Breaks a lot in terms of continuity, and felt too quick and rushed. Not to mention it's too much of an unfinished story, wouldn't sound very nice with audiences.
Conclusion: it's not bad, not at all. Changed some personalities real good, sometimes taking characteristics from one character and pulling into another. But overall, I don't think it would be a nice movie, at least, not one that could compare with the book. Oppenheim made a script of his own, that's for sure. To get better, it would need some good tweaking, mainly in including parts of the book. In a way, I think the story left some of the mystery and thriller aspects to become more of an actioner.
And, finally, after seeing what Dashner, Wes and other people talked about the script for tha actual movie, I really think they kinda pushed Oppenheim's script to side and worked on something new, more faithful to the novel (I can see right now because in this early draft WICKED had become the Consortium, but clearly they went the other way; the no presence of something like "Consortium is good" on this draft, while in the movie we will se the famous phrase). But that doesn't mean they won't get anything from this draft into the actual movie, so here is MY THEORY of what was/what I would like to see included:
*The Maze being made of various areas, and the whole "runic message on the maps" idea, instead of letters (although the runic code, IMO, would be used to deactivate the Grievers, just like in the novel)
*Clint's bigger presence. My vision here is that, instead of Clint, that would be Jeff, that we all know will have a bigger role in the movie. I believe that, of all theories, that is the only one I can see fits really well to everything that's been revealed to us so far.
*Gally's past with Minho and Alby, his coup d'etat and power struggle inside the Glade. I think that was one of the best parts of this draft, created some tension between them gladers, and gave a nice backstory and complexity to Gally.
*The flashbacks. They were nice, could explain and already cover some terrain for Scorch Trials, and wouldn't take much time.
All in all, for me, as a Maze Runner movie, it would be very weak, and fans would go rage-mode quickly. As a movie itself, it's... Okay. Fell into cliche territory sometimes. But, honestly, I'm kinda glad that T.S. Nowlin entered and together with Wes, changed a lot of the script, being more faithful to the novel.
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.
-I hate they he made Newt a complete douche. His character was just completely ruined. Makes me think that if they went with this draft and made all three movies, Gally would be the one who dies in The Death Cure.
-Gally becoming the second in command and everything that came with that just felt really odd. Especially with Newt mentioned as being a bagger.
-Teresa wasn't the Teresa from the books. She felt like a damsel in distress most of the time, crying and calling for help. There were only a few flashes of her badass self.
-Teresa and Thomas's relationship felt odd as well. The way it developed goes back to Teresa being portrayed as weak. And it annoyed me.
-Loved the concept of the different sectors of the Maze. The unique environments for each.
-I liked the sequence after Thomas runs in the Maze for the first time. How the Maze was just as much of a challenge as the Grievers.
-I didn't like the flashbacks. I know Kill Order and Death Cure wasn't out when he wrote this, so I forgive him for creating that backstory for Teresa and Thomas.
-The "Queen Griever" fight felt very video game-ish. Like a boss monster at the end of a dungeon.
-Alby killing Chuck and Chuck jumping in front of the knife by his own will. Again, I know the last book wasn't out so he wouldn't know the continuity issues this would bring up.
-The ending at "WICKED." What was that? Taking the scientists as hostages and making up backstory for all the characters. Just no.
-Character development for Chuck was weak. He dies and it feels like nobody cares cause he was barely featured during the meat of the story.
[spoiler]You said something I forgot to mention and I agree: Teresa and Chuck. It did bothered me how they were badly developed and how Teresa sounded like a damsel in distress. He could've done better in that aspect.
Even then, this movie would be something like 110 min. It felt kinda short, if we compare to other adaptations, and I hope TMR goes for at least more than 2 hours.
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.
Reading what you guys wrote and I think its impossible dashner agreed to that. He said its faithful of the book and that doesn't seems like it...I'm sure they change the script a lot.
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http://pagetopremiere.com/2013/08/first-divergent-trailer-may-be-released-at-the-2013-vmas/
Although, there is the possibility of BOTH trailers premiering on the show, which I find kinda hard.
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.
Lord Stafford.
Theres just so much in it.
Moviewise we will see. I have high hopes for the film.
Lord Stafford.
I need to give the book a second read
Lord Stafford.
What if MTV was going to air the trailer during the awards, but decided not to because Divergent. And he just found out, that's why he tweeted that?
Lord Stafford.
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.
I'm so terribly desperate.
Vampire Academy trailer. Check. Divergent trailer. Check. The Maze Runner trailer...
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.
It really makes the maze a lot more interesting than it already was. I hope it's not cut cause of the budget.
Can you send me the link to the script?
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
Glad it was just a draft and Wes most likely re-wrote the majority of it.
-Didn't like some character transformations and changes in the story. Ben being cut from the story, and Newt becoming this sort of dickish henchman, instead of the nice guy just took out interesting subplots and personalities.
-As Jason said, I did find nice the Maze being composed by various formats - lava, jungle, desert...
-Change in some characters' names felt random sometimes. I know Frypan is kinda tacky, but taking in consideration his personality it made sense. Change it to Winston though, didn't.
-Clint has more presence in the script and Gally's role is kinda different, he's still an asshole but had some important part in the formation of the Glade. His influence and coup d'etat in the Glade did added a bit more to the character, instead of the "crazy annoying prick" he was in the book. In some ways, it felt that Oppenheim took characteristics from Newt and passed it to Gally, like his limping and more calm attitude in the third act, besides turning sides and becoming a good guy.
-Alby taking Gally's place in killing Chuck: okay, that was all right, but the thing about him becoming obsessed in staying on the Glade felt somehow farfetched. Although I already know that won't happen in the movie.
-The flashbacks were nice, added some quick explanation to everything that happened in the outside world and with Thomas and Teresa as kids. Although I didn't like the way Teresa and Thomas's relationship developed. Falled in love too fast (yes, they already kiss in this story).
-The idea behind this version of the Glade is different: they keep sending Thomas and Teresa to it, with new kids, but everytime they fail, all of them die, and they are taken to do it again. They will repeat the process until they can solve the maze. Kinda cruel but interesting idea, but in terms of continuity, I think it could cause some problems.
-The fight in the Glade was a nice battle, but I didn't enjoyed much of the final battle that happens in the Hive. Found the action there kinda muddled.
-The ending: no, I didn't liked it at all. Breaks a lot in terms of continuity, and felt too quick and rushed. Not to mention it's too much of an unfinished story, wouldn't sound very nice with audiences.
Conclusion: it's not bad, not at all. Changed some personalities real good, sometimes taking characteristics from one character and pulling into another. But overall, I don't think it would be a nice movie, at least, not one that could compare with the book. Oppenheim made a script of his own, that's for sure. To get better, it would need some good tweaking, mainly in including parts of the book. In a way, I think the story left some of the mystery and thriller aspects to become more of an actioner.
And, finally, after seeing what Dashner, Wes and other people talked about the script for tha actual movie, I really think they kinda pushed Oppenheim's script to side and worked on something new, more faithful to the novel (I can see right now because in this early draft WICKED had become the Consortium, but clearly they went the other way; the no presence of something like "Consortium is good" on this draft, while in the movie we will se the famous phrase). But that doesn't mean they won't get anything from this draft into the actual movie, so here is MY THEORY of what was/what I would like to see included:
*The Maze being made of various areas, and the whole "runic message on the maps" idea, instead of letters (although the runic code, IMO, would be used to deactivate the Grievers, just like in the novel)
*Clint's bigger presence. My vision here is that, instead of Clint, that would be Jeff, that we all know will have a bigger role in the movie. I believe that, of all theories, that is the only one I can see fits really well to everything that's been revealed to us so far.
*Gally's past with Minho and Alby, his coup d'etat and power struggle inside the Glade. I think that was one of the best parts of this draft, created some tension between them gladers, and gave a nice backstory and complexity to Gally.
*The flashbacks. They were nice, could explain and already cover some terrain for Scorch Trials, and wouldn't take much time.
All in all, for me, as a Maze Runner movie, it would be very weak, and fans would go rage-mode quickly. As a movie itself, it's... Okay. Fell into cliche territory sometimes. But, honestly, I'm kinda glad that T.S. Nowlin entered and together with Wes, changed a lot of the script, being more faithful to the novel.
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.
-I hate they he made Newt a complete douche. His character was just completely ruined. Makes me think that if they went with this draft and made all three movies, Gally would be the one who dies in The Death Cure.
-Gally becoming the second in command and everything that came with that just felt really odd. Especially with Newt mentioned as being a bagger.
-Teresa wasn't the Teresa from the books. She felt like a damsel in distress most of the time, crying and calling for help. There were only a few flashes of her badass self.
-Teresa and Thomas's relationship felt odd as well. The way it developed goes back to Teresa being portrayed as weak. And it annoyed me.
-Loved the concept of the different sectors of the Maze. The unique environments for each.
-I liked the sequence after Thomas runs in the Maze for the first time. How the Maze was just as much of a challenge as the Grievers.
-I didn't like the flashbacks. I know Kill Order and Death Cure wasn't out when he wrote this, so I forgive him for creating that backstory for Teresa and Thomas.
-The "Queen Griever" fight felt very video game-ish. Like a boss monster at the end of a dungeon.
-Alby killing Chuck and Chuck jumping in front of the knife by his own will. Again, I know the last book wasn't out so he wouldn't know the continuity issues this would bring up.
-The ending at "WICKED." What was that? Taking the scientists as hostages and making up backstory for all the characters. Just no.
-Character development for Chuck was weak. He dies and it feels like nobody cares cause he was barely featured during the meat of the story.
Even then, this movie would be something like 110 min. It felt kinda short, if we compare to other adaptations, and I hope TMR goes for at least more than 2 hours.
Quaalude fight: because drunk fight is too mainstream.