I've been thinking about it and I would say in a good way. Good directing and acting, Bigelow knows how to make a crucial scene feel real and intense. On the other hand I had a hard time trusting 100% everything that was presented, but that's just me.
It's hard to do that when any artist claims their work is accurate to true events.
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Wow wow wow. Accurate and based are very different words. No movie is "accurate" to reality (even documentaries have artistic freedom). It can be based, inspired, but not accurate.
That is true, Henrick, but the filmmakers have claimed that it's accurate. Bigelow, as per Chastain's facebook page (December 15), implied just that. This is an exact quote.
"There’s definitely a degree to which I wish the torture and interrogation techniques weren’t a part of this narrative, but they were a part of history. It was part of the research, and had I not included it I would not be telling the full story of this manhunt.” -Kathryn Bigelow
To me, "full story" implies complete accuracy. What does the "true story" card say before the movie starts, Henrick? "Based on?" "Inspired by true events?"
Also, does the film actually tell the full story of Bin Laden, including the hundreds of thousands of deaths incurred in his name and Al Qeada? If not, I don't think l want to see it. Every single atrocity committed by America since the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq is part of Bin Laden's story. If it's at least mentioned, perhaps I'll attempt to watch it.
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So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
I have no idea what it says, but you have to be really - I'm sorry for the vocabulary here - stupid or ignorant to believe that there's accuracy in a piece of art, whatever the artist says. And that's not a determinant factor for a movie being good or bad. The movie is a "dramatization" of facts, and that's already says a lot.
I particularly like this discussion a lot. And besides being a bad movie, The Fourth Kind is a film that debates this question very well. In the end, what you believe is you to decide, but again, you have to be really naive.
Anyways, I'll discuss Zero Dark Thirty more after I watch it. After all, discussing/judging a movie that I haven't even seen doesn't sound right to me. (But I really doubt that there's any propaganda in the movie.)
I know they aren't accurate and I could nitpick your point to prove otherwise in another medium, but that would be irrelevant. But the point is that if the filmmakers say it's accurate, or even allude to its accuracy, you have a right to challenge that claim, as many critics have done with ZDT. Would you argue with a historian who tears apart a movie based in part on history, like Gladiator? If they get certain costumes wrong, some facts wrong, is it wrong for them to say "this makes no sense and the filmmakers made shit up" or "even with this major budget they couldn't get x and y right?" Is the very fact that it's art mean it's disqualified from historical analysis? People are looking at ZDT in that manner.
I thought my post "It's hard to do that when any artist claims their work is accurate to true events" implied that I know these things are not very accurate.
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So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
Anyways, I'll discuss Zero Dark Thirty more after I watch it. After all, discussing/judging a movie that I haven't even seen doesn't sound right to me. (But I really doubt that there's any propaganda in the movie.)
Oh, lol. I thought you posted here that you saw it. But yeah, I doubt it's propaganda too. Glenn Greenwald clearly had confirmation bias when he updated his bullshit comments on it.
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So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
The good thing about the film is how real it feels, specially in those last 30 minutes. I'd say it was the first time that I felt really disgusted and shocked about violence and shooting scenes, so in that sense the movie is a great piece of work.
The good thing about the film is how real it feels, specially in those last 30 minutes. I'd say it was the first time that I felt really disgusted and shocked about violence and shooting scenes, so in that sense the movie is a great piece of work.
Agreed. Everything about the film seemed so "real"... that is one of the things that I kept thinking about long after the movie was over.
@Henrick You're talking to a guy who thinks Soderbergh's Che set the bar for biopics. I seriously doubt the film is completely accurate and maybe only bits and pieces of it are. After all, it's an interpretation of the revolutionary's iconic status.
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So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
I'll be blunt: It dragged a lot. The cinematography was pretty ordinary, which didn't help with the pace, seeing as everything looked the same. I wasn't able to care about Marius. I thought Russell Crowe's singing was annoying. Bear in mind that I'm not critiquing the plot or the characters or the sheer length, because that would be picking at the source material, not the adaptation. And that being said, overall the film was incredible. I won't be surprised if Hugh Jackman and Anne Hathaway get Oscars thrown at them for this. I didn't think I'd be able to be care about the film enough to get emotional over it, but I was wrong. I Dreamed a Dream was gutwrenching, and the closing scene had me sobbing. Sacha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter picked up every scene they were in and ran off with them. Amanda Seyfried sang beautifully, but it was the girl who played the young Cosette I adored. The fact that the songs were recorded live is just remarkable. Even though I found myself losing attention in a few scenes, it was still powerful and I enjoyed it very much.
The good thing about the film is how real it feels, specially in those last 30 minutes. I'd say it was the first time that I felt really disgusted and shocked about violence and shooting scenes, so in that sense the movie is a great piece of work.
My Post Production lecturer at uni was the First Assistant Editor :'D He let us watch it in class, with incomplete CGI and stuff, months before release. He knows how appallingly awful it was, don't worry. :'D
Seriously what a shit movie that was. There's a one-liner at the end that could very well be the king of new shitty one-liners.
Anyway, haven't seen Django Unchained yet, I was in a really bad car accident on Christmas Eve of all fucking days while traveling out of state to visit relatives... had to stay at a shady hotel and get a ride the rest of the way on Christmas morning... what an excellent way to spend Christmas! (someone rear-ended us and totaled the car, luckily no injuries apart from some back pain and whiplash) so I've been stranded at relatives which is why I had to watch that shit movie instead of a good one, so it wasn't my choice.
But yeah that movie was crap. This isn't really a review, just a wow, that movie was crap.
the main character ends up being related to Leatherface, and he's getting beaten up by some dirty cops and an asshole town mayor in a slaughterhouse-- they also had the main character tied up, so she starts feeling sympathy for him (Leatherface) due to how the town treated the family... so she kicks his chainsaw over to him which he had dropped when he was assaulted by the cop and mayor and says "DO YOUR THING, CUZ" as Leatherface gets the chainsaw and kills the guys
It was just one of those FUCK YEAH SO BADASS GIRL POWER BITCHES kind of moments... delivered with cheese by Alexandra Daddario (who is hot as SHIT in this movie).
This post brought to you by what few remaining brain cells I had after watching this movie.
Then you don't understand what Texas Chainsaw Massacre is, or should be, or anything about the Leatherface character. I'm not being rude, just... seriously. Maybe the description doesn't do its god awfulness justice.
The original was a hit because it was serious, it wasn't goofy, it wasn't full of typical Hollywood tropes like bad one-liners, it was all about the atmosphere, sense of dread, and the immense payoff. Everything about this one was like it was out to completely ruin the original.
That one-liner has "new age teen bullshit" written all over it. It's tonally inconsistent with what these movies are supposed to be. Even the remake that came out earlier last decade paid respect to the original. What's worse is that this one is a straight up sequel to the original 1970's TCM, and it respects it about as much as Hypable respects David Yates.
The original was a hit because it was serious, it wasn't goofy, it wasn't full of typical Hollywood tropes like bad one-liners, it was all about the atmosphere, sense of dread, and the immense payoff. Everything about this one was like it was out to completely ruin the original.
Couldn't agree more with you dude. I have a place in my heart for the original and this just totally was waste of film. It was all so basic and I didnt feel for any character, didnt feel scared or nervous once. It was all blah and generic like most Horror films that strive to carry on a big name just for the sake of creating a piece of junk instead of a thrilling and terrifying experience. ~X(
What upsets me more about it is, like I said, it establishes itself as a sequel to the original. It opens with a very good opening credits sequence as well as an interesting storyline set up and main character set up-- as in it had potential-- but then quickly devolved into yet another "teen scream" type garbage of a product.
I felt it was to much concentrate only on the mother peril.I want it to see how the father and the two other kids got out of the tsunami.I felt also the "Retrouvaille" of the family was to quick.But the movie was good and its emotional.
Don't feel like writing a proper review. But it was very good. Very raw. One of those movies I kept telling myself I need to see, but never got around to it, and then cursed myself for taking so long to watch it.
Absolutely. Clint was brilliant as always, more than I've ever seen him. He did a great job of directing it too. I would've given it a 9/10, but...actually I'm not sure why I didn't. It just feels like it's hovering between an eight and nine. I dunno. Probably because of the acting. Clint was easily brilliant, while everyone else was mediocre at best.
The first Death Race was awesome. The second was fantastic for a straight-to-DVD sequel. The third... didn't live up to the first two. However, that doesn't mean it isn't a good movie. It had some great characters, some fun action and racing scenes, and a fantastic twist at the end. However, the action, while good, seemed to be toned down from the first two.
However, if you have seen the first two, I do recommend seeing this movie.
Argo I honestly can't remember being as thrilled by a movie's climax as I was with this one. Argo is a surprisingly brilliant movie that manages to get everything right, being entertaining even with such a difficult theme to portray. 10/10
PS: I really feel weird when I put a 10/10 here because people may think I'm judging said movie to be perfect. To me these numbers are just codes to the adjectives I use to movies, 10 being "Amazing", 9 being "Excellent", 8 being "Great", 7 being "Really good", 6 being "Good", 5 being "Average", 4 being "Forgettable", 3 being "Bad", 2 being "Really bad" and 1 bein "Abysmal". I just had the need to clear this up and I'm glad I did
Lincoln A beautifully acted piece of film that gets held back by an inconsistent pace and wrong stylistic choices that make it look horribly staged. Still a really good movie nonetheless. 7/10
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So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
"There’s definitely a degree to which I wish the torture and interrogation techniques weren’t a part of this narrative, but they were a part of history. It was part of the research, and had I not included it I would not be telling the full story of this manhunt.” -Kathryn Bigelow
To me, "full story" implies complete accuracy. What does the "true story" card say before the movie starts, Henrick? "Based on?" "Inspired by true events?"
Also, does the film actually tell the full story of Bin Laden, including the hundreds of thousands of deaths incurred in his name and Al Qeada? If not, I don't think l want to see it. Every single atrocity committed by America since the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq is part of Bin Laden's story. If it's at least mentioned, perhaps I'll attempt to watch it.
So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
I particularly like this discussion a lot. And besides being a bad movie, The Fourth Kind is a film that debates this question very well. In the end, what you believe is you to decide, but again, you have to be really naive.
I thought my post "It's hard to do that when any artist claims their work is accurate to true events" implied that I know these things are not very accurate.
So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
I'll be blunt: It dragged a lot. The cinematography was pretty ordinary, which didn't help with the pace, seeing as everything looked the same. I wasn't able to care about Marius. I thought Russell Crowe's singing was annoying. Bear in mind that I'm not critiquing the plot or the characters or the sheer length, because that would be picking at the source material, not the adaptation. And that being said, overall the film was incredible. I won't be surprised if Hugh Jackman and Anne Hathaway get Oscars thrown at them for this. I didn't think I'd be able to be care about the film enough to get emotional over it, but I was wrong. I Dreamed a Dream was gutwrenching, and the closing scene had me sobbing. Sacha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter picked up every scene they were in and ran off with them. Amanda Seyfried sang beautifully, but it was the girl who played the young Cosette I adored. The fact that the songs were recorded live is just remarkable. Even though I found myself losing attention in a few scenes, it was still powerful and I enjoyed it very much.
Seriously what a shit movie that was. There's a one-liner at the end that could very well be the king of new shitty one-liners.
Anyway, haven't seen Django Unchained yet, I was in a really bad car accident on Christmas Eve of all fucking days while traveling out of state to visit relatives... had to stay at a shady hotel and get a ride the rest of the way on Christmas morning... what an excellent way to spend Christmas! (someone rear-ended us and totaled the car, luckily no injuries apart from some back pain and whiplash) so I've been stranded at relatives which is why I had to watch that shit movie instead of a good one, so it wasn't my choice.
But yeah that movie was crap. This isn't really a review, just a wow, that movie was crap.
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
It was just one of those FUCK YEAH SO BADASS GIRL POWER BITCHES kind of moments... delivered with cheese by Alexandra Daddario (who is hot as SHIT in this movie).
This post brought to you by what few remaining brain cells I had after watching this movie.
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
Don't feel like writing a proper review. But it was very good. Very raw. One of those movies I kept telling myself I need to see, but never got around to it, and then cursed myself for taking so long to watch it.
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
The first Death Race was awesome. The second was fantastic for a straight-to-DVD sequel. The third... didn't live up to the first two. However, that doesn't mean it isn't a good movie. It had some great characters, some fun action and racing scenes, and a fantastic twist at the end. However, the action, while good, seemed to be toned down from the first two.
However, if you have seen the first two, I do recommend seeing this movie.
Great film, it had me in tears for the most part. Fantastic acting too, I'm really happy Naomi got a nomination, she deserves it.
I honestly can't remember being as thrilled by a movie's climax as I was with this one. Argo is a surprisingly brilliant movie that manages to get everything right, being entertaining even with such a difficult theme to portray.
10/10
PS: I really feel weird when I put a 10/10 here because people may think I'm judging said movie to be perfect. To me these numbers are just codes to the adjectives I use to movies, 10 being "Amazing", 9 being "Excellent", 8 being "Great", 7 being "Really good", 6 being "Good", 5 being "Average", 4 being "Forgettable", 3 being "Bad", 2 being "Really bad" and 1 bein "Abysmal". I just had the need to clear this up and I'm glad I did
A beautifully acted piece of film that gets held back by an inconsistent pace and wrong stylistic choices that make it look horribly staged. Still a really good movie nonetheless.
7/10