I guess I'll put this in spoilers since some haven't read the book...if it doesn't work I would appeciate if a mod would fix it.
I wonder how they will make Fili and Kili's deaths impactful because in the book they were just two of the dwarves and there wasn't really an emotional punch when they died.
SPOILER ALERT! (Read no further if you don't want to be spoiled) Just spoke with Quickbeam on the phone about what he saw in the 10 minutes footage from CinemaCon...Radagast, The White Council, The Trolls (Talking!), Tauriel and Legolas action sequence, Dol Guldur, Thrain, Riddles in the Dark...oh my! He's going to dish the dirt tonight on TORn Tuesday! Be there!!!
I was under the impression that Legolas was making a cameo appearance. Well, that is what I was told when he was initially announced to be in The Hobbit. :-?
Radagast and the White Council?! Omg and I can't believe there will be a Legolas action sequence. I'm at a loss as to what that could do with. Don't the elves go to the mountain to fight in the battle? I'll be surprised if Legolas is a part of the entire Battle of the Five Armies, though I wouldn't be complaining.
10 minutes of unfinished, ungraded 48fps footage isn't exactly a sign of the apocalypse but it's just like the fucking internet to have such knee-jerk, doomsday reactions.
Here's what the TORN.net moderator Quickbeam said about the footage:
PJ's intro was mostly about the technical aspects, saying that this change in frame rate is analogous to moving from silent to sound.
Opening shots were helicopter shots, similar to opening of TTT. Gorgeous. Sunrise over Misty Mountains to the fluting strains of Howard Shore music. Followed by a few shots that were seen in the trailer, intros of characters, etc.
Dol Guldur/Thrain - Gandalf is seen wandering through sub-dungeon of Dol Guldur, searching through corridors as if being chased. Thrain crazed, out his mind from torture, jumps out of the dark in a "Boo!" moment and attacks Gandalf. Yes, this is the scene from the trailer. Thrain's face is not closely seen. No other creatures are seen there.
Scenes of Bilbo in the Shire, mostly stuff we've seen in the trailer or vlogs. Martin Freeman as Bilbo is very different from other hobbits. He has a lightness and elan, with a very light comedic touch. Not like slapstick humor of Merry & Pippin. Fresh, funny, approachable, comedic but not too much. Quickbeam was very enthusiastic about his performance.
Saruman/White Council - this was still green screen, no grading or background effects added yet. Elrond, Galadriel, Gandalf are shown sitting with Saruman. Radagast was not present. Galadriel looking at a sword, identifies as a Morgul blade. Everyone is aghast as she tells the history of the blade as she says it is the sword of the Witch-King and he was destroyed long before in battles with the North Kingdom. He was held in a dungeon in the North from which he should not have been able to escape but Galadriel is afraid that this means he has. Saruman is studying it carefully, with maybe a glint in his eye.
Galadriel touching Gandalf's face. The context is Galadriel asking Gandalf why he chose this particular hobbit. Gandalf says, almost to himself, that it is because he sometimes feels a little afraid and Bilbo gives him courage. Galadriel touches his face and tells him not to be afraid, that he always has friends.
Radagast - Gandalf is shown alone in the dark with his staff lit, searching through catacombs where the ringwraith's tombs are...then Radagast appears suddenly. Both put their staffs down the tunnel to see the tombs broken open. Radagast seems rather childlike, like he is more in tune wth animals than people. Radagast's staff is similar to Gandalf's; a knobbly wooden staff. Radagast is "weird and wonderful" looks nothing like the Decipher card. This is a new Radagast is an "unbelievable, crazy, cool, mess", with a bird's nest on his head. Quickbeam loved his appearance and style. Radagast was only shown in the dark, "Moria-style" dungeon which was only lit by Gandalf's staff. It was hard to see costume details but they appeared to be a mixture of black and brown, with a "weird shaped" hat with flaps on it. He has a bird nest on his head under his hat. Was conversing with Gandalf about the crypts/tombs that had once belonged to the Ringwraiths. Radagast also has a staff. The only other shot of Radagast was him flying by in his sled. Radagast has a sled that runs on the forest floor, drawn by larger-than-life (but not giant) grey jackrabbits. Q really liked the sled, thought it was cool.
Mirkwood, the dwarves are shown after their spider sequence, they are covered in spider webs. Don't see much of Mirkwood, what is seen has spider webs everywhere. Tauriel slides into the scene with bow and arrow at the ready. Brown outfit with braided hairdo. Medium brown hair (not blond). Legolas appeared at the end of the scene with Tauriel. AS the dwarves are running covered in webs, they are suddenly confronted by Elves, and Legolas has an arrow pointed at Thorin's nose, saying "I will not hesitate to kill you, dwarf!" setting up for his attitude in LOTR. His costume is the same as LOTR. Tauriel's is similar, but in brown rather than green.
Not shown in the footage - No shot of Thranduil. No Laketown, no Elven halls. No shots of spiders or eagles. No Beorn. No Rhosgobel or Necromancer. No shots of Dale, Lonely Mountain or any hint of Smaug. No shots of goblins. No Bard or Master of Laketown. No hint of Aragorn/Rangers, etc. No shots of the Ring. Not much of the music, it's still be worked on. No dwarf singing, no Elves on horseback, no wargs, no goblins. No dwarf women.
Dwarves - Dwarves look great, with a lot of detail. Some are presented in a comedic way, some serious, all very different and distinct characters. No more dwarf singing. Sounds like mostly what we've already seen in trailer and vlogs except for one brief shot of dwarves in barrels on the river, with some effects tape visible - not a finished scene.
Trolls - They showed about a minute and a half of troll scene. Features some camera shots from above, creating a good sense of perspective with the live actors. Scene begins with a scene of Bilbo suddenly caught by "ginormous" hill trolls. In the troll scene, all the dwarves come runnign to rescue Bilbo. One of the younger ones takes an axe stroke at the legs of one troll, others stab at their feet. The trolls are articulate in speech with heavy Cockney accents. The scene goes similar to the book but not exactly. Wallet is not shown (or heard). "burrahobbit" is in, though we hear a "g" sound in there so it comes out like "burgahobbit". One of the trolls reminded Q a little of "Sloth" from The Goonies, with a slightly misshapen face
Riddle scene - Gollum is a "new vision" because he is now in 48fps. Scene is established with Bilbo begging for a way out of the cave but Gollum wants to play riddles. He identifies himself as Smeagol. Gollum regrets giving his name as Bilbo later regrets giving his. The Riddle scene was shown intercut with action scene with trolls, running with spiderwebs, Bilbo in the Shire. Gollum is mostly being Smeagol because he's trying to interact with another being that isn't a goblin. Bilbo still feels threatened and has Sting out in a defensive way. Sting is not glowing yet (there are no orcs present). Bilbo is wearing the same color jacket in the cave scene as in LOTR - he apparently leaves Rivendell wearing that jacket. - the scene ends with Gollum proposing the "stakes" - Bilbo saying if he wins, Gollum has to show him the way out. Gollum agrees and says that if he wins, "we gets to eats it raw". Bilbo hesitates and then agrees. Gollum comes off as attracted by the idea of talking with a fellow being, but also hungry, so we get a sense of the schizophrenic Seamgol/Gollum divide.
Returning characters - Christopher Lee might look slightly older, but Gandalf and Galadriel look the same. The returning characters look just the same as in LOTR. Legolas appears briefly.
Frame rate/3D - 48fps was crystal-clear and vivid, not like watching film. The images are "very sharp", the depth of field is "amazing". Quickbeam says he doesn't know if it's "too clear", it is very different and it you'll have to acclimate to it. The prosthetics did not look fake. The digital work of the CGI creatures looks even better at the higher frame rate. He says the trolls look fantastic. It will take some getting used to, whether people will like it immediately or not is hard to tell. It looks brighter and more vivid than LOTR footage. If there are complaints about the new framerate "I'm not surprised, welcome to the new frontier." It's a major change that will take adjustment. Fans will have the choice to see it in 2D or 3D -yes, 3D glasses will be needed. Quickbeam wore his comfortably over his usual glasses at this event. There were no scenes of "gimmick" 3D with things coming straight out of the screen, more a sense of depth in the image.
I can't wait to see all this stuff. I'm the slightest bit nervous about the 4fps issue but the last review sort of calmed me about it. Obviously the quick shots plus the 3D take some getting used to but when we see the film in its entirety with longer shots, it'll be easier to get used to the new format. And the new content sounds unbelievable.
“The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,” the First Film in Peter Jackson's Epic Adaptation of the Timeless Book, to Make Its World Premiere on Wednesday, November 28, in Wellington, New Zealand
As someone who never really got captivated by this fantasy universe, I'll probably skip both parts. I'm slightly curious, though, what people who have read the book think of the split. Is it justified or is it just an awkward business decision?
As someone who never really got captivated by this fantasy universe, I'll probably skip both parts. I'm slightly curious, though, what people who have read the book think of the split. Is it justified or is it just an awkward business decision?
Well they're adding onto it to connect it to LOTR, and there's also apparently a large intro to introduce the LOTR characters as they read Bilbos book about what happened. So it easily could be.
Loved the set video! Sure, it might not have been as exciting as seeing the shooting process going on, but it's so interesting to see what goes on on the set and it's really opened my eyes to just how massive of a production this is. Fascinating. And I love the surprise ending! :P
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and Kili's deaths impactful because in the book they were just two of the dwarves and there wasn't really an emotional punch when they died.
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http://badassdigest.com/2012/04/24/cinemacon-2012-the-hobbit-underwhelms-at-48-frames-per-secon/
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The Hobbit ... Didn't Look So Good:
http://movies.ign.com/articles/122/1223523p1.html
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Like I'm sure it might be weird for the first 30 minutes or so, but as the film goes on, people will get used to it.
http://www.kr-actors.co.nz/detailsx.php?act_id=130
Conan Stevens was earlier believed to be playing the character, but turned out he's Bolg instead.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120605006685/en/“The-Hobbit-Unexpected-Journey”-Film-Peter-Jacksons
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