When reading the Hunger Games I originally imagined it as the world from Children of Men. It was a great experience at first, but didn't really continue to work when they got to the Capitol. Still, he would be a great director and give the film many rewards.
If Cuaron gets chosen I hope he gets to the Children of Men route, and not the POA route with putting mexican homages instead of being faithful to the story.
If Cuaron gets chosen I hope he gets to the Children of Men route, and not the POA route with putting mexican homages instead of being faithful to the story.
Where do you think that he got the talking heads, the sugar skulls in Zonko, the statues of a eagle eating a snake, and some of the source music on the background of some scenes? All mexican easter eggs, which he preferred to put instead of details from the book which we're much more important. Notice how the other five films doesn't have anything. The only thing he really changed and it was kept was the new design of Hogwarts.
Also, I don't know if he already readed The Hunger Games, or if he wants to be in another franchise. If he didn't wanted to coming back to HP, I don't think he wants to make another franchise. Especially since that Gravity is his first film after Children Of Men which it's from 2006 (though the two shorts he made in 2007 doesn't count).
Where do you think that he got the talking heads, the sugar skulls in Zonko, the statues of a eagle eating a snake, and some of the source music on the background of some scenes? All mexican easter eggs, which he preferred to put instead of details from the book which we're much more important. Notice how the other five films doesn't have anything. The only thing he really changed and it was kept was the new design of Hogwarts.
Also, I don't know if he already readed The Hunger Games, or if he wants to be in another franchise. If he didn't wanted to coming back to HP, I don't think he wants to make another franchise.
LE GASP! Those are all such giant plot lines that he replaced in favor of the book it's quite shocking. Indeed.
I wish that people would remember that Mexico is not the only place for talented latin directors. We have the man who won the Oscar for The Secret In Their Eyes. Brazil has the guy who made the acclaimed Elite Squad.
Where do you think that he got the talking heads, the sugar skulls in Zonko, the statues of a eagle eating a snake, and some of the source music on the background of some scenes? All mexican easter eggs, which he preferred to put instead of details from the book which we're much more important. Notice how the other five films doesn't have anything. The only thing he really changed and it was kept was the new design of Hogwarts.
Also, I don't know if he already readed The Hunger Games, or if he wants to be in another franchise. If he didn't wanted to coming back to HP, I don't think he wants to make another franchise. Especially since that Gravity is his first film after Children Of Men which it's from 2006 (though the two shorts he made in 2007 doesn't count).
He gave us the most faithful version of Dumbledore in all the movies.
I wish that people would remember that Mexico is not the only place for talented latin directors. We have the man who won the Oscar for The Secret In Their Eyes. Brazil has the guy who made the acclaimed Elite Squad.
José Padilha? He is just alright man. I prefer Walter Salles.
The LA Times is reporting that Lionsgate is eyeing either Alfonso Cuaron (Children of Men), David Cronenberg (Eastern Promises), and Alejandro González Iñárritu (Babel) to replace Gary Ross as the Catching Fire director.
@yonythemoony The Secret in Their Eyes is just amazing! I love it so much!
@Henrick I really like José Padilha, but while I haven't experienced many Walter Salles movies to judge, I also prefer him. I'm just really not a big fan of Fernando Meirelles. While City of God is great, he's kind of overrated.
Totally agree, Matt. Fernando Meirelles is really overrated. He did such a mediocre job in adapting Blindness that I can't even describe. And if wasn't for Ralph Finnes and Rachel Weisz, The Constant Gardener would be just a regular movie.
I love Walter Salles. Have you seen Abril Despedaçado (Behind the Sun)? One of the best brazilian movies ever made.
Let me just begin by saying that I don't give a single, lonely fuck about what you guys thought of the film. Whether you didn't like the shaky-cam, the visual identity, the visual effects, the score, I really don't care. I've seen lots of negativity towards the film in this thread, and I'm not going to tell you to stop hating on it or whatever. You have the right to express your opinions, but right now it's my turn biaches
Gary Ross took an incredible book, and made a movie worthy of it. Everything we saw on the big screen came from his mind. He may not have wrote the story, but he brought it to life. He satisfied even the most die hard of Hunger Games fans. And for that, we will forever be thankful. Gary Ross you are a Hunger Games legend.
But unfortunately Gary has decided that he will not be returning for the sequel. Although I am very sad, I am also understanding. It was not a matter of greed, Gary decided that in the time he would be given for production and filming, he just did not have the same drive and desire to make the film as he did for the first one.
Simply put: His heart just was not all the way in. And for this reason he showed how much he really cared about the fans, and showed his respect for the story.
Gary Ross knows that the fans love this story too much for him to put out a half-hearted, thrown together film which he would have been forced to do. Some directors can do that, and thrive from that and make those circumstances their best work. And I have no doubt that Lionsgate execs will find a director who does just that. But Gary is not that guy. The Hunger Games took over a year to plan out and complete… From this point we have about 4-5 months before filming. Because of this, don’t be surprised if you hear news of the new director in the next few weeks. They will move quickly on this. And let’s be honest; every director in Hollywood is chomping at the bits for the chance to join this huge phenomenon. Also on a side note, don’t be surprised if you hear casting announcements in the next month or two. (i.e. Finnick, Johanna)
But let’s look at it like this; Catching Fire has a completely different feel to the story. It is far more politically driven, and this is the movie that will really develop the love triangle (it has to be done right) and the struggle with Katniss becoming the face of the rebellion. It will be completely different in those ways. I think, if it is even possible, it may be more emotional than the first movie. You will get more Gale, more Peeta, and more on screen time between them all.
So because this story is different, it may not be unreasonable to have a change at the helm. The new director may have a vision for Catching Fire as did Gary did for The Hunger Games. In a way it is exciting. Once again, we have no idea what to expect! And last movie, we were not disappointed.
My biggest concern however is this; I do not want The Hunger Games movie series to become only about making money. With Gary Ross it was about him putting out an incredible film. With a change of director the execs at Lionsgate could just be thinking “It doesn’t matter who we bring in, It will make money” and what they really should be thinking is “Who has the best vision for Katniss’ new adventure”.
Lionsgate has done this thing right so far. They didn’t go for the actors and actresses who would bring them the most hormonal fangirls. They didn’t cast Bieber as Peeta and Swift as Katniss. They found and cast the perfect actors and actresses to portray the characters. And they will find the best Director who can continue to take the series to new heights. Thank you Gary Ross you have brought this fantastic world to life in a magnificent way. But unfortunately, this is where we say goodbye. You will always be apart of The Hunger Games world and fandom.
Let me just begin by saying that I don't give a single, lonely fuck about what you guys thought of the film. Whether you didn't like the shaky-cam, the visual identity, the visual effects, the score, I really don't care. I've seen lots of negativity towards the film in this thread, and I'm not going to tell you to stop hating on it or whatever. You have the right to express your opinions, but right now it's my turn biaches
Gary Ross took an incredible book, and made a movie worthy of it. Everything we saw on the big screen came from his mind. He may not have wrote the story, but he brought it to life. He satisfied even the most die hard of Hunger Games fans. And for that, we will forever be thankful. Gary Ross you are a Hunger Games legend.
But unfortunately Gary has decided that he will not be returning for the sequel. Although I am very sad, I am also understanding. It was not a matter of greed, Gary decided that in the time he would be given for production and filming, he just did not have the same drive and desire to make the film as he did for the first one.
Simply put: His heart just was not all the way in. And for this reason he showed how much he really cared about the fans, and showed his respect for the story.
Gary Ross knows that the fans love this story too much for him to put out a half-hearted, thrown together film which he would have been forced to do. Some directors can do that, and thrive from that and make those circumstances their best work. And I have no doubt that Lionsgate execs will find a director who does just that. But Gary is not that guy. The Hunger Games took over a year to plan out and complete… From this point we have about 4-5 months before filming. Because of this, don’t be surprised if you hear news of the new director in the next few weeks. They will move quickly on this. And let’s be honest; every director in Hollywood is chomping at the bits for the chance to join this huge phenomenon. Also on a side note, don’t be surprised if you hear casting announcements in the next month or two. (i.e. Finnick, Johanna)
But let’s look at it like this; Catching Fire has a completely different feel to the story. It is far more politically driven, and this is the movie that will really develop the love triangle (it has to be done right) and the struggle with Katniss becoming the face of the rebellion. It will be completely different in those ways. I think, if it is even possible, it may be more emotional than the first movie. You will get more Gale, more Peeta, and more on screen time between them all.
So because this story is different, it may not be unreasonable to have a change at the helm. The new director may have a vision for Catching Fire as did Gary did for The Hunger Games. In a way it is exciting. Once again, we have no idea what to expect! And last movie, we were not disappointed.
My biggest concern however is this; I do not want The Hunger Games movie series to become only about making money. With Gary Ross it was about him putting out an incredible film. With a change of director the execs at Lionsgate could just be thinking “It doesn’t matter who we bring in, It will make money” and what they really should be thinking is “Who has the best vision for Katniss’ new adventure”.
Lionsgate has done this thing right so far. They didn’t go for the actors and actresses who would bring them the most hormonal fangirls. They didn’t cast Bieber as Peeta and Swift as Katniss. They found and cast the perfect actors and actresses to portray the characters. And they will find the best Director who can continue to take the series to new heights. Thank you Gary Ross you have changed our lives. But unfortunately, this is where we say goodbye. You will always be apart of The Hunger Games world and fandom.
Let me just begin by saying that I don't give a single, lonely fuck about what you guys thought of the film. Whether you didn't like the shaky-cam, the visual identity, the visual effects, the score, I really don't care. I've seen lots of negativity towards the film in this thread, and I'm not going to tell you to stop hating on it or whatever. You have the right to express your opinions, but right now it's my turn biaches
Gary Ross took an incredible book, and made a movie worthy of it. Everything we saw on the big screen came from his mind. He may not have wrote the story, but he brought it to life. He satisfied even the most die hard of Hunger Games fans. And for that, we will forever be thankful. Gary Ross you are a Hunger Games legend.
But unfortunately Gary has decided that he will not be returning for the sequel. Although I am very sad, I am also understanding. It was not a matter of greed, Gary decided that in the time he would be given for production and filming, he just did not have the same drive and desire to make the film as he did for the first one.
Simply put: His heart just was not all the way in. And for this reason he showed how much he really cared about the fans, and showed his respect for the story.
Gary Ross knows that the fans love this story too much for him to put out a half-hearted, thrown together film which he would have been forced to do. Some directors can do that, and thrive from that and make those circumstances their best work. And I have no doubt that Lionsgate execs will find a director who does just that. But Gary is not that guy. The Hunger Games took over a year to plan out and complete… From this point we have about 4-5 months before filming. Because of this, don’t be surprised if you hear news of the new director in the next few weeks. They will move quickly on this. And let’s be honest; every director in Hollywood is chomping at the bits for the chance to join this huge phenomenon. Also on a side note, don’t be surprised if you hear casting announcements in the next month or two. (i.e. Finnick, Johanna)
But let’s look at it like this; Catching Fire has a completely different feel to the story. It is far more politically driven, and this is the movie that will really develop the love triangle (it has to be done right) and the struggle with Katniss becoming the face of the rebellion. It will be completely different in those ways. I think, if it is even possible, it may be more emotional than the first movie. You will get more Gale, more Peeta, and more on screen time between them all.
So because this story is different, it may not be unreasonable to have a change at the helm. The new director may have a vision for Catching Fire as did Gary did for The Hunger Games. In a way it is exciting. Once again, we have no idea what to expect! And last movie, we were not disappointed.
My biggest concern however is this; I do not want The Hunger Games movie series to become only about making money. With Gary Ross it was about him putting out an incredible film. With a change of director the execs at Lionsgate could just be thinking “It doesn’t matter who we bring in, It will make money” and what they really should be thinking is “Who has the best vision for Katniss’ new adventure”.
Lionsgate has done this thing right so far. They didn’t go for the actors and actresses who would bring them the most hormonal fangirls. They didn’t cast Bieber as Peeta and Swift as Katniss. They found and cast the perfect actors and actresses to portray the characters. And they will find the best Director who can continue to take the series to new heights. Thank you Gary Ross you have brought this fantastic world to life in a magnificent way. But unfortunately, this is where we say goodbye. You will always be apart of The Hunger Games world and fandom.
Yes they all are fauthful indeed but some more than others.
Half-Blood Prince is probably the least faithful IMO because of unnecessary additions in favor of fleshing things out that actually should have been. Most of the shit that they excised from Azkaban means fuck-all to the overall plot.
Yes they all are fauthful indeed but some more than others.
Half-Blood Prince is probably the least faithful IMO because of unnecessary additions in favor of fleshing things out that actually should have been. Most of the shit that they excised from Azkaban means fuck-all to the overall plot.
Seriously, dropping all the Marauder talk didn't hurt shit. That was a subplot, children. Even if it was included it wouldn't have changed or explained anything about the core plot.
Seriously, dropping all the Marauder talk didn't hurt shit. That was a subplot, children. Even if it was included it wouldn't have changed or explained anything about the core plot.
I frequently complain about the way that Voldemort's memories were handled (as in, not at all) but really, I love the hell out of the movie. I think it was a miscalculation but there's still a lot to like about it and most of the important scenes were directed like a son of a bitch.
Also, about the Marauders, I think it's actually kind of cool that the movies don't explain it. Instead, for people who haven't read the book, they could watch all of the movies, see various interactions and mentions across the movies, and kind of piece it all together. In Azkaban they state the names of the Marauders, and after that you hear these names crop up time and time again. Combining that with some of the flashback stuff and seeing "Wormtail" who we know is Pettigrew hanging out with James and Sirius -- I mean, it's all kind of really there. It would be neat to be a non-reader and figure that one out.
So instead of it being explained on a silver platter, it's something that can be derived across the films nonetheless. Also I don't see how they could have really worked it into the film in a relevant fashion. You don't just write something into a screenplay without it having a rhyme or reason, it just doesn't work that way. Had the Marauders needed to be explained to... explain something, that would be one thing, but it wasn't necessary to the fundamental story.
Purists should know that the people who makes the movies knows that people have read the books, and that's why when they can't put something in the movie, they make a hint to it.
I think Bane would like the books! Like he said, he liked the story, just disliked the telling. The books tell it much better, and go deeper into things that Bane wanted to be explored. Some movies, there are some really awesome added scenes (Snape hugging lily, Harry and Voldemort fight) but in THG movie, there was really just one added scene that was really good.
And Cuaron would be great! I think it would be cool to shoot it like CoM. It's like the original cinematography, but better and a little more different.
The only thing, I don't know how faithful he'd stick to Ross's vision of things. I don't want it to feel like its a whole new serie.
I didn't hate the movie. I was being over the top. I disliked it but I felt it was far from some festering pile of cinematic droppings. However, sometimes underwhelming can be even worse than terrible, and I found this to be the poster child for underwhelming. It just didn't really leave an impression either way. In this case I do blame the director because the characters were fine, the story had potential, and the screenplay wasn't terribly written or anything.
Thus, as far as my experience goes, it's all on the director. He failed to find a visual identity, he failed to motivate his art directors, he failed to create anything inspirational or memorable. This is why I feel like there's still hope for the series (in my eyes) with a new director taking over. If Cuaron were to direct the next film, I guarantee even those that really liked or loved this one will look back on it with some level of apprehension or at least understanding where those of us who felt it was wholly mediocre are coming from.
I didn't hate the movie. I was being over the top. I disliked it but I felt it was far from some festering pile of cinematic droppings. However, sometimes underwhelming can be even worse than terrible, and I found this to be the poster child for underwhelming. It just didn't really leave an impression either way. In this case I do blame the director because the characters were fine, the story had potential, and the screenplay wasn't terribly written or anything.
Thus, as far as my experience goes, it's all on the director. He failed to find a visual identity, he failed to motivate his art directors, he failed to create anything inspirational or memorable. This is why I feel like there's still hope for the series (in my eyes) with a new director taking over. If Cuaron were to direct the next film, I guarantee even those that really liked or loved this one will look back on it with some level of apprehension or at least understanding where those of us who felt it was wholly mediocre are coming from.
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Also, I don't know if he already readed The Hunger Games, or if he wants to be in another franchise. If he didn't wanted to coming back to HP, I don't think he wants to make another franchise. Especially since that Gravity is his first film after Children Of Men which it's from 2006 (though the two shorts he made in 2007 doesn't count).
@Henrick I really like José Padilha, but while I haven't experienced many Walter Salles movies to judge, I also prefer him. I'm just really not a big fan of Fernando Meirelles. While City of God is great, he's kind of overrated.
I love Walter Salles. Have you seen Abril Despedaçado (Behind the Sun)? One of the best brazilian movies ever made.
Whether you didn't like the shaky-cam, the visual identity, the visual effects, the score, I really don't care.
I've seen lots of negativity towards the film in this thread, and I'm not going to tell you to stop hating on it
or whatever. You have the right to express your opinions, but right now it's my turn biaches
Gary Ross took an incredible book, and made a movie worthy of it.
Everything we saw on the big screen came from his mind. He may not have wrote the story,
but he brought it to life. He satisfied even the most die hard of Hunger Games fans.
And for that, we will forever be thankful. Gary Ross you are a Hunger Games legend.
But unfortunately Gary has decided that he will not be returning for the sequel.
Although I am very sad, I am also understanding. It was not a matter of greed,
Gary decided that in the time he would be given for production and filming,
he just did not have the same drive and desire to make the film as he did for the first one.
Simply put: His heart just was not all the way in. And for this reason he showed
how much he really cared about the fans, and showed his respect for the story.
Gary Ross knows that the fans love this story too much for him to put out a half-hearted,
thrown together film which he would have been forced to do. Some directors can do that,
and thrive from that and make those circumstances their best work.
And I have no doubt that Lionsgate execs will find a director who does just that. But Gary is not that guy.
The Hunger Games took over a year to plan out and complete… From this point we have about 4-5 months before filming.
Because of this, don’t be surprised if you hear news of the new director in the next few weeks. They will move quickly on this.
And let’s be honest; every director in Hollywood is chomping at the bits for the chance to join this huge phenomenon.
Also on a side note, don’t be surprised if you hear casting announcements in the next month or two. (i.e. Finnick, Johanna)
But let’s look at it like this; Catching Fire has a completely different feel to the story.
It is far more politically driven, and this is the movie that will really develop the love
triangle (it has to be done right) and the struggle with Katniss becoming the face of the rebellion.
It will be completely different in those ways. I think, if it is even possible, it may be more emotional than the first movie.
You will get more Gale, more Peeta, and more on screen time between them all.
So because this story is different, it may not be unreasonable to have a change at the helm.
The new director may have a vision for Catching Fire as did Gary did for The Hunger Games. In a way it is exciting.
Once again, we have no idea what to expect! And last movie, we were not disappointed.
My biggest concern however is this; I do not want The Hunger Games movie series to become only about making money.
With Gary Ross it was about him putting out an incredible film.
With a change of director the execs at Lionsgate could just be thinking “It doesn’t matter who we bring in, It will make money”
and what they really should be thinking is “Who has the best vision for Katniss’ new adventure”.
Lionsgate has done this thing right so far. They didn’t go for the actors and actresses who would bring them the most hormonal fangirls.
They didn’t cast Bieber as Peeta and Swift as Katniss. They found and cast the perfect actors and actresses to portray the characters.
And they will find the best Director who can continue to take the series to new heights.
Thank you Gary Ross you have brought this fantastic world to life in a magnificent way. But unfortunately, this is where we say goodbye.
You will always be apart of The Hunger Games world and fandom.
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The only thing, I don't know how faithful he'd stick to Ross's vision of things. I don't want it to feel like its a whole new serie.
Thus, as far as my experience goes, it's all on the director. He failed to find a visual identity, he failed to motivate his art directors, he failed to create anything inspirational or memorable. This is why I feel like there's still hope for the series (in my eyes) with a new director taking over. If Cuaron were to direct the next film, I guarantee even those that really liked or loved this one will look back on it with some level of apprehension or at least understanding where those of us who felt it was wholly mediocre are coming from.
So what if Ross wrote the screenplay? He's not diggin on Ross in general, just his direction. Not him as a screenwriter, but as a director.
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