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What Would You Have Done Differently If You Were In Charge Of The Films?

FireflyFirefly Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭
edited November 2011 in General
So guys, what would you have done differently if you were in charge of the Harry Potter films?

Me:

1) I wouldn't of cut Dobby out of Goblet Of Fire, so audiences didn't forget about him between COS and DH:1.

2) Replace every single Bill and Fleur scene with Lupin and Tonks as the audience already has some emotional investment with them, it would have made their deaths more impactful and wouldn't leave Teddy as a plothole.

3) Cut Grawp from OOTP. He wasn't featured in DH:2 so this was ultimately a waste of time and money.

4) Shown the entire "Snape's Worst Memory". I felt it was necessary for the audience to understand why Lily chose James over Snape.

5) Not cut the Dursleys in GOF and HBP. I'd rather see the Dursleys than "HONESTLY?! Get dressed!" and "Bit of a tosser really!".

6) Not cut the Tom/Dumbledore teacher interview memory in HBP. I felt this was important to bridge the gap between teenage Tom and the Voldemort we know. We never see that transformation.

7) Not cut Snape's class in HBP. We have this build up of Snape longing to teach this class and when he finally gets the job, there's a reaction, but we never get to see him in his element. Could have been some hilarious scenes: "There's no need to call me sir, Professor."

Would love to hear your ideas guys. Please try not to bash each other's opinions or the producers or whatever.

Thanks.


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  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im thankful everyday that I wasn't in charge of the films because they would have all sucked ass.

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  • FireflyFirefly Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭
    Im thankful everyday that I wasn't in charge of the films because they would have all sucked ass.

    Thanks for the constructive comment.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot.
    Let me write out my list.
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  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im thankful everyday that I wasn't in charge of the films because they would have all sucked ass.

    Thanks for the constructive comment.
    Alright fine.

    I would made them less funny.
    I would have had a different Voldemort, one that talks deeper and wears a hooded cloak.
    I would have given Dumbledore a funeral.
    I would have told Michael Gambon to CALMLY ask Harry if he put his name in the goblet.
    I would have cut repetitive dialogue.
    I would have made OotP a longer and more serious movie.
    They would have all been Oscar winners.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
    1. Made the series darker.
    2. Included development to the character of Voldemort.
    3. Make them less funny - or make the humor witty like Mrs. Rowling's :D
    4. I would've not worried about the Rating or Length of the film.
    5. Would've included multiple book elements - such as the Half-Blood Prince memories.
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  • JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. I would have been the director for all 8 films(if I was good.:)
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. I would have been the director for all 8 films(if I was good.:)
    Having a single director would've been great.
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  • HessHess Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the complains can be put in one single thing: the script.
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  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the complains can be put in one single thing: the script.
    Pretty much.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No No No.
    Steve Kloves.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorcerer's Stone

    -Open the film with the Potter's death
    -Trim some of that long running time. Preferably cut a class scene or just a random great hall scene

    Chamber of Secrets

    -Reduce run time. Idk how, I'm not a director, just reduce it
    -Change things up a bit. Follow Harry around more, less of the castle and classes. I don't want to see Sorcerer's Stone with a different plot

    Prisoner of Azkaban

    -Maurauder's Story

    Goblet of Fire

    -Less focus on the romance
    -More focus on Harry
    -FIX THE DIALOGUE!
    -Priori Incantantem Explanation

    Order of the Phoenix

    -Prophecy Explanation
    -Longer battle

    Half-Blood Prince

    -Divide the romance up, not all in the middle of the film
    -Skirmish at the end

    Deathly Hallows Part 1

    -Less Dobby humor
    -Pettigrew's death. Make this shit push pg-13 to the limit

    Deathly Hallows Part 2

    -Fred's Death. I would do it. I have this envisioned thing in my head, can't really describe, but it looks good in my head :p
    -I would have something between the Voldy's death and the great hall aftermath

  • thehalfbakedprincethehalfbakedprince Posts: 12
    edited November 2011
    SS

    nothing

    COS

    nothing

    POA

    marauders

    GOF

    dobby
    winky
    the hedgemaze would be exactly like the book

    OOTP

    dobby

    HBP
    all the memories would be in

    DH
    one long film
    no pointless dancing scene
    more battle
    voldys speech would include every line we see him reading in that clip from when harry left hogwarts


    the most changes are form my fav film..odd
  • GodricGryffindorGodricGryffindor Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's only one really
    big thing I would change.

    In Half-Blood Prince, I would
    two long memory sequences
    combining all of Voldemort's
    memories.

    Very much like "The Prince's Tale".

    G.G.

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  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's only one really
    big thing I would change.

    In Half-Blood Prince, I would
    two long memory sequences
    combining all of Voldemort's
    memories.

    Very much like "The Prince's Tale".

    G.G.

    Never thought of that.. That's a great idea!
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  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
    I would hired Goldenberg for all the films like it was originally. Same thing with Williams after the fourth movie. I would put Nagini's death during the Harry/Voldemort sky fight and then falling into the Great Hall, Harry knows that the snake was dead, and then he gives the speech from the book.

    No Harry/Hermione scenes. I would put scenes with the silver trio in Hogwarts during the golden trio exodus, so the audience would had a sense of excitement, having the main sextet in the film, in and out of Hogwarts, and Luna's kidnapping before the Godric's Hollow scene.

    I would asked Williams to write new themes in OOTP for the Ministry, Luna, and kept the Window To The Past theme as a theme for Harry/Sirius's relationship. For the Battle of Hogwarts, some big choral stuff but not over the top, but emotional, like Desplat's battle theme, but perfomed by a chorus. Also, some scenes with the Order, because there's barely stuff about the Order in both movie and book.

    For Half-Blood Prince, Voldemort's memories would have been a 8 minutes montage like the Prince's Tale, and then, the fake Slughorn's memory, and the real one, and that's it. I would made a montage of the love scenes in the book and the Quidditch, also, Luna making her commentary.

    A small fight between the Death Eaters and the Order after Dumbledore's death, Greyback biting Bill, but unlike the book, I would kept the focus on Dumbledore's death, not the attack in Hogwarts. Also, I would kept the explanation of the Half-Blood Prince. And. of course, the motherfucking funeral.

    For DH2, Dobby's buring like in the book, with Luna giving her speech. More scenes in Shell Cottage, including Lupin. More buildup to the battle. In the movie,Voldemort says that the students want to fight, but they never said anything. I would kept the part where Voldemort finds out that the Locket is gone, and then Harry saying that Voldemort is coming to Hogwarts.


    Intercut battle scenes with the Order and Dumbledore's army, with Harry searching the diadem, to give urgence to the scene. There was a battle, friends of Harry we're dying, and he wasn't in a hurry.
  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    I think I'll start by giving one thing I would've changed in each movie before adding more, otherwise It'll take me ten years to write my entire list (not because the movies are bad, but because sometimes my vision was just different).
    1-SS : I would have used a bit more Hogwarts "fly over" shots like in Yates films which are really beautiful and I would have tried to "boost" the actors so that they give the best they can, because it didn't seem like they talked a lot with Chris Colombus.
    2-COS : I would have included like Hermione in the library who hears some creapy sounds, looks in the mirror, sees green eyes and then instant cut on another scene. I would have done this technic for each "agression" which would have let people possibility to imagine a bit what the monster might look like and at time same time add some scary scenes. Super 8 style I would say.
    3-POA : A bit more faithfull to the book (in general).
    4-GOB : (A lot to change :p) Keep Dobby in the movie to "remember" him, less long first/second task, labyrinth more like in the book with dementors, spiders... and only 5-10 minutes ONLY focusing on Harry so that we really don't know what's happening to the others, more scenes where we see how the Hogwarts students react to the Dumstrung and Beaubaton's students (like it was for quite a lot of chapters in the book), and hire Eduardo Serra for the photography.
    5-OOTP : No Graup scene because he's very unusefull as much in OOTP as in DH2, no Mark Day, a bit less scene in the prophecy room, more lenght (2h45) use the money we saved with Graup to do Quidditch scenes with Ron and Harry's exclusion of the Quidditch team.
    6-HBP : Less jokes, a bit longer (2h45-50) add some battle sequence at the end : right after Dumbledore's death, when the deatheaters run down and that Harry follows them, we get one shot (as he comes out of the astronomy tower) of everyone fighting in the corridors and, after this shot, we almost ONLY focus on Harry who fights his way threw, hits one/two deatheaters, uses protego sometimes, dutches spells and doesn't respond to some voices which call him. After he ran out of the castle, a sinple shot on ginny. That's how I would have made the small battle (4-5 minutes long maximum). And add the funeral !
    7-DH1 : Don't delete Petunia's scene ("I lost a sister ..."), less camping scenes, part 1 finishes right after the Gringotts breakout while they're still flying on the dragon/cut/Voldemort taking the Elder Wand/cut/end of the movie. Add the Gringotts part by deleting 5 minutes of unusefull camping, a bit less running in the forest, 15 minutes extra movie and it's done.
    7-DH2 : Starts while they're flying on the dragon, same as in DH2 but they talk a bit more. When they are with Alberforth, more details about Dumbledore's past. When the battle begins, get some more shot of students who go down the stairs to protect the courtyard, some more destruction scenes (so that we don't just get see Hogwarts untouched and Hogwarts destroyed). While Harry is looking for the diadem, some intercuts to Hogwarts battle (including one where we see Lupin and Tonks' death). While the trio goes down to the courtyard, we get Fred's scene as it was in the book (Percy, Fred, George, the trio fighting when there's an explosion which kills Fred). Ron cries on Fred's body and Hary tells him that they have to go/cut/Courtyard Apocalypse.
    For the rest of the movie, nothing more than include the scenes that have been cut.
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  • marques18marques18 Posts: 334 ✭✭
    I would have died from the excitement... probably. :D
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  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know how the camping scenes of the movie (Except the one with Harry/Hermione dance and the bit with Hermione and Scabior) are useless. All had a purpose in the film and book.
  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    I don't know how the camping scenes of the movie (Except the one with Harry/Hermione dance and the bit with Hermione and Scabior) are useless. All had a purpose in the film and book.
    I didn't say it was useless, but a few scenes could have been made shorter.
    When Harry is with Hermione in the forest, they could have reduced the conversation a bit.
    A bit less long shots and the Harry/Hermione dancing would have been already 5 minutes less.
    If they REALLY needed some time, they could've cut out a lot of scenes like the "he doesn't know what he's doing, does he ?........"
    All those very short scenes could've been cut out. I'm not saying I didn't like them, only that they weren't necessary.

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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We needed that imo

    Great character development


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  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We needed that imo

    Great character development


    Exactly. And besides, it proofs that the time was passing. And compared to the book, there's barely camping scenes. They we're condensed to kept the esential ones from the book, and there was more in the script and in the deleted scenes.
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do Harry and Hermione develop during the camping scenes?
  • 1.) I would have Voldemort die properly (corpse visible), and not have him dissolve into dust.
    2.) I would move the epilogue to after the credits.
  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
    We needed that imo

    Great character development


    Exactly. And besides, it proofs that the time was passing. And compared to the book, there's barely camping scenes. They we're condensed to kept the esential ones from the book, and there was more in the script and in the deleted scenes.
    You're right, it's good for the character development but what I didn't like is that almost all the camping scenes were kept while the very few action scenes were cut.
    -The flight : We got a very good scene which could have still been one or two minutes longer.
    -The wedding attack : nothing.... we see a deatheater flying, one spell and the three heros who leave this place. We could have at least seen a few fighting shots that I'm sure they had.
    -Ministry of Magic : Where are all the defenses used in the book and at the beginning of the movie ? They could have at least fought a few bad guys while leaving the place.
    -Running in the forest : 5 minutes of incomprehensible shots. I was really disappointed by that. All I could see were some trees, sometimes a main character and I only understood 1 or 2 scenes. Had to watch it in x0,25 to understand it :/ . On top of that no shot was longer than a second. Thanks Mark Day (as always).
    -Malefoy Mannor : was long enough imo because of the few characters who were involved in the fight.

    All this to say that character development is good, but having some good action in a movie is good to. Espacialy when it's an action scene from the book in a very slow movie (
    How do Harry and Hermione develop during the camping scenes?
    Sometimes it does but a few sequences were really unusefull.

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  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I heard that there was more of the Death Eater attack in the wedding, including Luna trying to fight and Xeno holding her back. But what we got was much more than in the book.

    The Snatcher chase is 70 seconds long exactly, not 5 minutes.
  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty much everything you said.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dumbledore Backstory:
    I would've included it; using the method of Newspaper Montages in Order of the Phoenix.
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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 7,837 mod
    Peeves. In at least SS/PS, OOTP and then DH

    Dobby. In GOF, HBP and DH1 but still No Spew for pacing. Possibly throwing Spew badges on Hermione though.

    Yes Grawp but actually done right. Adding him into DH2 as well.

    More focus on Snape, the Half Blood Prince and all of the riddle memories in HBP

    Added in a few short classes in some of the films...They go to a school...how was this not covered a bit more in some of the films lol. I know it could bog down the story or film but adding in a short montage of "Back to Hogwarts after summer" would never had been a bad idea.

    I would have had Ron be less of a humorous and more of what he was like in the books.

    I would have yelled at Kloves for sucking Hermione's dick and to not give her so much focus and to keep it even between Ron and Hermione, except in a few short instances.

    I woulda kept Colin. St Mungos. Neville's backstory. -_-

    A better explanation of the Elder wand.

    Kept the Professors for each movie even for background scenes just for continuity.

    proper Marauder's backstory.

    Sirius and "Witherwings" in GOF

    more focus on Sirius, Lupin and Tonks.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Peeves. In at least SS/PS, OOTP and then DH

    Dobby. In GOF, HBP and DH1 but still No Spew for pacing. Possibly throwing Spew badges on Hermione though.

    Yes Grawp but actually done right. Adding him into DH2 as well.

    More focus on Snape, the Half Blood Prince and all of the riddle memories in HBP

    Added in a few short classes in some of the films...They go to a school...how was this not covered a bit more in some of the films lol. I know it could bog down the story or film but adding in a short montage of "Back to Hogwarts after summer" would never had been a bad idea.

    I would have had Ron be less of a humorous and more of what he was like in the books.

    I would have yelled at Kloves for sucking Hermione's dick and to not give her so much focus and to keep it even between Ron and Hermione, except in a few short instances.

    I woulda kept Colin. St Mungos. Neville's backstory. -_-

    A better explanation of the Elder wand.

    Kept the Professors for each movie even for background scenes just for continuity.

    proper Marauder's backstory.

    Sirius and "Witherwings" in GOF

    more focus on Sirius, Lupin and Tonks.
    Agreed on all of these! Especially, the Marauder's story!
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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 7,837 mod
    Its honestly like...how can you not explain that...lol

    I know they went from "Harry's point of view" but come on! That was important as were other aspects of the books and somehow Kloves, The directors and the powers at be sought not to explain some of the most important aspects of the books. x_x
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  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    I heard that there was more of the Death Eater attack in the wedding, including Luna trying to fight and Xeno holding her back. But what we got was much more than in the book.

    The Snatcher chase is 70 seconds long exactly, not 5 minutes.
    Yes, but still 70 seconds ruined imo.

    On top of that the guy who pops out of nowhere, and looks the trio running right past him is kind of ridiculous.

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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    U mean scabior....?
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    Dumbledore's Funeral
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  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    U mean scabior....?
    Yes, sorry if I don't know all the names but I didn't read the books in english and a lot of names aren't mentioned in the movies (which I usualy watch in english)
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  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would kept the same design for the castle, , the CGI one, since that Hogwarts looked much more realistic than the miniatures. I would added the bit where Hermione says that she brought Harry and Ron to the place where the Quidditch World Cup was celebrated.
  • PhineasPhineas Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On top of that the guy who pops out of nowhere, and looks the trio running right past him is kind of ridiculous.
    He knows he's gon catch em, though. He lets them run for the sport of the hunt.
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  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have gotten rid of every ounce of comedy in DH1 and would have ended it with Draco looking at Potter in Malfoy Manor. I would have opened DH2 with a tracking shot leading up to the Manor while hearing Hermione's tortured screams, increasing with volume as the camera approaches the house. I would have then omitted Dobby completely and used Kreacher instead

    Every bit of comedy in DH2 would have been removed as well: no Minerva comment about a spell, no comic relief Ron running from the fire in the RoR, etc.

    To sum up: I would have made it darker.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Um nokreacher replacing dobby? I disagree.
  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
    It would have being boring. Like Dan says, the things that the HP films and book had in common is stuff like comedy, romance, drama. You take these out, and they become way too depresing.
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would have being boring. Like Dan says, the things that the HP films and book had in common is stuff like comedy, romance, drama. You take these out, and they become way too depresing.
    The entire second war is depressing. The humor doesn't fit the tone of the films. Add some dark humor instead, like when Draco makes that quip about Harry's mother in HBP and then kicks him.

    Dobby was fan service and nothing else. He was absent for four films and there was no need to bring him back when there was a house elf already needed to help aid in the search of the locket. Having Kreacher help the trio obtain the locket and then save their life and then dying is more suitable and far more logical.
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  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree about Kreacher.
  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    I don't.
    You can't change stuff like this. It's exactly like changing Lupin and Tonk's death by Fleur and Bill's one.
    Dobby is a loved character from the entire audience. When he appeared in DH1, everyone was like Oo soo cute !!!
    If he didn't appeared in the middle of DH1 then I would've agreed to change him but he did appear, and because of that we can easily keep him.
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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kreacher?? Uh.. No
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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like Dobby, but I agree with Number Eight that it makes more sense to replace him with Kreacher. The comedy at Malfoy Manor ruined the scene for me.
  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    I like Dobby, but I agree with Number Eight that it makes more sense to replace him with Kreacher. The comedy at Malfoy Manor ruined the scene for me.
    Well the comedy is not Dobby's fault but Kloves' fault. Dobby just says what is on the script and so does Kreacher.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    I dont even think its comedy it doesnt bother me at all.
  • Toini01Toini01 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭
    I dont even think its comedy it doesnt bother me at all.
    I think it goes well with Dobby :)
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    "Dobby is a free Elf !" (slow camera zoom which makes Dobby look important)

    I found this scene great !
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