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FINISHED - Deathly Hallows Part 2 Breakdown - I spent ages on this. Read it. Now.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They weren't bad effects.
    They were, lets be honest.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The flying scene also looked extremely fake. The COS too!
    Yes.

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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They weren't bad effects.
    They were, lets be honest.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    They were not bad effects.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    It was a fireball, yes? It didn't look like a fireball. Those were some bad effects for a production of this size.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They were not bad effects.
    Correction: they were bad effects, the troll of PS looked almost better then them!
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    They were not bad effects.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They were. Explain how they weren't.

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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    It was a fireball, yes? It didn't look like a fireball. Those were some bad effects for a production of this size.

    Lord Stafford.
    I think they ran out of time, plus they had to convert it to 3D. The only aspect that I think DH 1 does better than part 2 is in the CGI.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was a fireball, yes? It didn't look like a fireball. Those were some bad effects for a production of this size.

    Lord Stafford.
    I think they ran out of time, plus they had to convert it to 3D. The only aspect that I think DH 1 does better than part 2 is in the CGI.
    Same here.

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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    They were. Explain how they weren't.

    Lord Stafford.
    How do you explain how they weren't bad effects? It's an opinion thing. And they were good effects imo.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, DH2 does have a longer battle than Ootp.

    DH2 is a little over 10 minutes while OotP is around 7.
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, DH2 does have a longer battle than Ootp.

    DH2 is a little over 10 minutes while OotP is around 7.
    Did you count the Voldemort/Harry fighthing?
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    Actually, DH2 does have a longer battle than Ootp.

    DH2 is a little over 10 minutes while OotP is around 7.
    Did you count the Voldemort/Harry fighthing?
    Of course. Why wouldn't I? I counted Dumbledore vs Voldemort in OotP as well.
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, DH2 does have a longer battle than Ootp.

    DH2 is a little over 10 minutes while OotP is around 7.
    Did you count the Voldemort/Harry fighthing?
    Of course. Why wouldn't I? I counted Dumbledore vs Voldemort in OotP as well.
    Because it's a fight.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, DH2 does have a longer battle than Ootp.

    DH2 is a little over 10 minutes while OotP is around 7.
    Did you count the Voldemort/Harry fighthing?
    Of course. Why wouldn't I? I counted Dumbledore vs Voldemort in OotP as well.
    Because it's a fight.
    Still apart of the battle and is technically battling.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We don't class it as a part of the battle.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We don't class it as a part of the battle.

    Lord Stafford.
    Well then they're about or near even. But why? That's the big climatic battle: Harry vs Voldemort.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We don't class it as a part of the battle.

    Lord Stafford.
    Well then they're about or near even. But why? That's the big climatic battle: Harry vs Voldemort.
    One on one, head to head, is not a battle.

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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    They were not bad effects.
    The effects in Part 2 were definitely not up to the standard of the other movies. GOF, HBP and Part 1 all definitely had superior effects, and I'd possibly go as far as saying POA had better effects too. There are some scenes where the visuals are plain bad. A lot of the fire effects were bad, the flying scene was pretty ropey, there were even a few shots of Voldemort which looked fake - and I know things are bad when one of the most successful effects in the series looks off.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again - 3D worked against the movie. After the Part 1 fiasco, WB were just so determined to get it out in 3D for the extra money and being spared humiliation that they didn't care if it was detrimental to the movie or not. Clearly, they didn't have enough time to finish the effects, which I also suspect is why large portions of the battle were cut. Many of the spells and curses in the parts left in the movie don't look as flashy and polished as they did in OOTP or even Part 1. And if you look at the background fighters during the Harry vs Voldemort/Ron and Hermione vs Nagini/Molly vs Bellatrix confrontations, you will see that some of the effects are actually borderline atrocious. So if they didn't have time to finish background effects, there is no way they could finish effect heavy battle scenes in time for 3D.

    Rant over.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Some effects in DH2 were laughable.
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    They were not bad effects.
    The effects in Part 2 were definitely not up to the standard of the other movies. GOF, HBP and Part 1 all definitely had superior effects, and I'd possibly go as far as saying POA had better effects too. There are some scenes where the visuals are plain bad. A lot of the fire effects were bad, the flying scene was pretty ropey, there were even a few shots of Voldemort which looked fake - and I know things are bad when one of the most successful effects in the series looks off.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again - 3D worked against the movie. After the Part 1 fiasco, WB were just so determined to get it out in 3D for the extra money and being spared humiliation that they didn't care if it was detrimental to the movie or not. Clearly, they didn't have enough time to finish the effects, which I also suspect is why large portions of the battle were cut. Many of the spells and curses in the parts left in the movie don't look as flashy and polished as they did in OOTP or even Part 1. And if you look at the background fighters during the Harry vs Voldemort/Ron and Hermione vs Nagini/Molly vs Bellatrix confrontations, you will see that some of the effects are actually borderline atrocious. So if they didn't have time to finish background effects, there is no way they could finish effect heavy battle scenes in time for 3D.

    Rant over.
    What's ironic is that a self-proclaimed Yater (their word, not mine) complained about ONE spell in GoF looking unpolished, whereas he is apparently fine about some of the atrocious spell effects in part 2. Inside the vault, for instance, I thought for a moment I was watching Star Wars...
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, the spells didn't look real. It is most noticeable in the final duel.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, the spells didn't look real. It is most noticeable in the final duel.

    Lord Stafford.
    It looked so much better in GoF, which Yates imitated.
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    Also, the spells didn't look real. It is most noticeable in the final duel.

    Lord Stafford.
    It looked so much better in GoF, which Yates imitated.
    I wish they had thought of some other effect to do whenever there was a duel. I could even see some Priori Incantatem going on in the background battle shots. :P
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, the spells didn't look real. It is most noticeable in the final duel.

    Lord Stafford.
    It looked so much better in GoF, which Yates imitated.
    I wish they had thought of some other effect to do whenever there was a duel. I could even see some Priori Incantatem going on in the background battle shots. :P
    I was amazed at it in GoF, bored at it in OotP and sick of it the third or four times we saw it in DH2.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw a someone in the Great Hall, as you see Neville waking up, doing a double spell. A Death Eater was on his knees with whoever it was using two wands... letting off the Priori Incantatem effect. :-w

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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    I saw a someone in the Great Hall, as you see Neville waking up, doing a double spell. A Death Eater was on his knees with whoever it was using two wands... letting off the Priori Incantatem effect. :-w

    Lord Stafford.
    Ugh, I hated how he woke up comically in slow motion and a Death Eater was on fire. With all my complaints, I am afraid I won't be able to enjoy it as much on a rewatch. I have to say that despite the fact it was well-made and told a story about never cease fighting, the finale was severely overrated and merely a decent film.
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    The slow motion did not work well with the flying, flaming Death Eater, though Lewis's expression certainly did nothing to help the scene.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    I saw a someone in the Great Hall, as you see Neville waking up, doing a double spell. A Death Eater was on his knees with whoever it was using two wands... letting off the Priori Incantatem effect. :-w

    Lord Stafford.
    Ugh, I hated how he woke up comically in slow motion and a Death Eater was on fire. With all my complaints, I am afraid I won't be able to enjoy it as much on a rewatch. I have to say that despite the fact it was well-made and told a story about never cease fighting, the finale was severely overrated and merely a decent film.
    Absolutely. With all that i read in the book, i was thinking that this film was going to have some serious rewatching value, even surpassing GOF... but i was wrong. It's shameful that the one thing they didn't get right with this was the most important.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The slow motion did not work well with the flying, flaming Death Eater, though Lewis's expression certainly did nothing to help the scene.
    He looked like a drunk that had just woken up on a park bench.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2011
    I saw a someone in the Great Hall, as you see Neville waking up, doing a double spell. A Death Eater was on his knees with whoever it was using two wands... letting off the Priori Incantatem effect. :-w

    Lord Stafford.
    Ugh, I hated how he woke up comically in slow motion and a Death Eater was on fire. With all my complaints, I am afraid I won't be able to enjoy it as much on a rewatch. I have to say that despite the fact it was well-made and told a story about never cease fighting, the finale was severely overrated and merely a decent film.
    Absolutely. With all that i read in the book, i was thinking that this film was going to have some serious rewatching value, even surpassing GOF... i was wrong.

    Lord Stafford.
    Didn't you find it great though?
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I still found it great, yes. But i also found it great after watching OOTP and HBP... and whilst i still love both of them, they don't have as high regard as they did previously, on first watch.

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  • MattCatMattCat Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    On the plus side visually I thought the Dragon, Giants, Dome, Grey Lady, spiders, Statues, The beginning attack and Harry Vs Voldemort all looked great.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We were talking about how the final duel didn't look great. Look at the spells and you'll see.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • GinaCGinaC Posts: 828 ✭✭
    edited October 2011
    They were not bad effects.
    The effects in Part 2 were definitely not up to the standard of the other movies. GOF, HBP and Part 1 all definitely had superior effects, and I'd possibly go as far as saying POA had better effects too. There are some scenes where the visuals are plain bad. A lot of the fire effects were bad, the flying scene was pretty ropey, there were even a few shots of Voldemort which looked fake - and I know things are bad when one of the most successful effects in the series looks off.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again - 3D worked against the movie. After the Part 1 fiasco, WB were just so determined to get it out in 3D for the extra money and being spared humiliation that they didn't care if it was detrimental to the movie or not. Clearly, they didn't have enough time to finish the effects, which I also suspect is why large portions of the battle were cut. Many of the spells and curses in the parts left in the movie don't look as flashy and polished as they did in OOTP or even Part 1. And if you look at the background fighters during the Harry vs Voldemort/Ron and Hermione vs Nagini/Molly vs Bellatrix confrontations, you will see that some of the effects are actually borderline atrocious. So if they didn't have time to finish background effects, there is no way they could finish effect heavy battle scenes in time for 3D.

    Rant over.
    What's ironic is that a self-proclaimed Yater (their word, not mine) complained about ONE spell in GoF looking unpolished, whereas he is apparently fine about some of the atrocious spell effects in part 2. Inside the vault, for instance, I thought for a moment I was watching Star Wars...
    LOL! It really is like Star Wars!

    Hermione: Looks like Griphook's managed to cut off our only escape route. (Jumps onto Dragon)

    Ron: What the hell are you doing?

    Hermione: Somebody's got to save our skins! Onto the dragon, flyboys!
  • GodricGryffindorGodricGryffindor Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to say something
    about my experience while
    watching Deathly Hallows Part 2.

    I've seen the film eight times-
    all I can say is that the 2D version
    of the film was vastly superior than
    the 3D version. Maybe this just
    happened at my theater, but the
    visual effects in DH2 looked much
    better in 2D.

    They were seen as PART of the actual
    movie, of the whole entity. When I
    watched it in 3D the effects looked
    like an additional "flashy" feature.

    Take the Fiendfyre Scene, for example.
    I was able to appreciate it much, much
    better in 2D- the fiery environment
    felt much more natural, less artificial.

    I'm not gonna judge until I watch the
    film on Blu-Ray. Same thing happened
    to DH1- at first, I wasn't too happy
    about the film's VFX, then it all changed.

    November 11th, get here - NOW!



    G.G.
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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 7,837 mod
    I'd like to say something
    about my experience while
    watching Deathly Hallows Part 2.

    I've seen the film eight times-
    all I can say is that the 2D version
    of the film was vastly superior than
    the 3D version. Maybe this just
    happened at my theater, but the
    visual effects in DH2 looked much
    better in 2D.

    They were seen as PART of the actual
    movie, of the whole entity. When I
    watched it in 3D the effects looked
    like an additional "flashy" feature.

    Take the Fiendfyre Scene, for example.
    I was able to appreciate it much, much
    better in 2D- the fiery environment
    felt much more natural, less artificial.

    I'm not gonna judge until I watch the
    film on Blu-Ray. Same thing happened
    to DH1- at first, I wasn't too happy
    about the film's VFX, then it all changed.

    November 11th, get here - NOW!



    G.G.
    \:D/
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