Ew. Voldemort in GoF was sort of laughable. The playful villain scream at the end, the "CRUUUUCIOOOO" and the "I CAN TOUCH YOU NOW." And the scream with the mouth open and the tongue hanging out. Bleh. The scene was haunting but I liked him better calm.
There you go, Braveheart. We've just received proof of what you said.
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This is what I'm talking about. Because it's Yates, when there is an arguably silly scene like the cartoon cackle and shuffle hug and the weird jig Voldemort does in the courtyard, people will automatically look for hidden meanings and reasons behind it. But if there is a silly scene like CRUCIOOO and the over-the-top moments in GOF, people are so quick to condemn them as simply stupid. Why? Because Newell directed it. Both are funny and weird, yet it's as if people are only to happy to praise Yates where they decry Newell. If it adds so much to Voldemort as a character to have him acting all over-the-top when Harry has been "killed" (which I can see where you're coming from by the way; it's just that some lines like "Join us..........OR DIE!!!!!!!!!" are just too much for me to take seriously. I don't remember Voldemort in the book saying anything like as one-dimensional evil as that line. In the book he was ostensibly gracious in his victory, and very welcoming to the fighters), why is it so unreasonable to be euphoric and giddy and over-the-top when he has just been returned to his body and powers, something which has been his soul purpose for 13 years? It makes no sense to praise one while condemning the other, since they are both such similar scenes of euphopria for Voldemort.
Exactly. You will know what i mean by this, Braveheart. Voldemort is gracious with everything he does in GOF. He welcomes his Death Eaters with chilling words... and that is how you do it, the right way. In Part 2, the filmmakers try a similar approach with the hug, but fail.
It is easy to look beyond a high pitched 'Crucio!' But he is very one dimensional in Part 2, and that is because they had tried to add so many layers when it wasn't at all needed or warranted. He is also very graceful with his movements, and the cloak feels as though it is a part of him.
From OOTP onwards, he hasn't been THE Voldemort. But he did retain a tiny bit of that in the opening scene from Part 1. If Newell has got one big thing over Yates, then it's Voldemort. The overall understanding that he had of the character was just breathtaking. He found the essence of Voldemort.
I also love how Harry talks to Voldemort like he really knows him by now, not like someone he has just met. This really shows when he says "you were right when you said that wand would fail you. It will always fail." It's like he's trying to get him fired up. )
Yes, I'm very fond of that moment. It's great. Dan is great. I like how Harry is talking to him, not like he's someone he's afraid of anymore. And all Voldemort can do? Shoot more spells.
And anyone else love Voldemort's weakening voice? It's VERY noticeable for the first time in the boathouse and here again when he says: 'I killed Snape!' Such mother fucking attention to detail.
Oh, I LOVE the way he tells Lucius, "HE will come to ME" in the boathouse, and of course the "I killed Snape." That was the truest Voldemort I think he ever did! It sounded exactly as I imagined that high, cold voice to sound!
Martin, I will have to read this when I have a bit more more time! I'll definitely comment then. Sounds like you did a very nice job.
You know, from the Gringott’s scene straight through to Harry’s death is brilliant. Just looking at it the film flows so incredibly well and there’s a magnitude of great scenes (The Dragon Flight, Battle, Forest Again, Prince’s Tale and so on) and the storytelling is really quite masterful in these moments. The beginning of the film is fine but not the most engaging thing. I honestly felt Part I had a superior beginning with the emotion of the Obliviate montage and then the darkness of Malfoy Manor. With Part II we get a nice opening but we then fall into a sort of rigid exposition field with both Griphook and Ollivander. I wish they’d broken them up with maybe a couple of minutes of more character-driven scenes, maybe some bits of reflection.
I also feel the end is a little less powerful than the rest of the film. The procession scene is excellent, no doubt, the ambience is perfect but Neville’s speech is so odd and feels so artificial, awkward and drawn out. I don’t mind Voldemort in the scene but Neville is just to impossible to take seriously for me. The other thing that I feel is, whilst the duel between Harry and Voldemort is immense, the battle in the Great Hall feels to unfocused and rushed. Still, the final spells in the courtyard is fantastic again. That being said, I do feel that the aftermath in the Great Hall and the scene on the bridge are both lovely little moments and the epilogue was fine in my book
Plus, with Nevilles speech it doesn't make sense. Because of what they cut from the B Rolls, when he talks about how they are all in Harry's heart. Voldemort had previously talked about that.
Well, Voldemort was wrong in thinking that they would give up once Harry was dead, but I agree that it was stupid to cut Voldemort's lines claiming that they never were in Harry's heart. I feel that's more realistic for an intelligent sociopath to say than "come forward and join us.. or die." That sounds quite desperate when in fact Voldemort was enjoying the moment.
I have only seen DH7.2 once, so can someone tell me what this "procession" scene is?
Also, I find it very strange that after I saw DH7.1, I remembered so much afterward but I can't remember shit from DH7.2 other than what I dislike about it.
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I have only seen DH7.2 once, so can someone tell me what this "procession" scene is?
Also, I find it very strange that after I saw DH7.1, I remembered so much afterward but I can't remember shit from DH7.2 other than what I dislike about it.
The soundtrack piece when Voldemort comes across the bridge with dead Harry is called Procession, so everyone refers to that scene and Voldemort talking to them as such.
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It is easy to look beyond a high pitched 'Crucio!' But he is very one dimensional in Part 2, and that is because they had tried to add so many layers when it wasn't at all needed or warranted. He is also very graceful with his movements, and the cloak feels as though it is a part of him.
From OOTP onwards, he hasn't been THE Voldemort. But he did retain a tiny bit of that in the opening scene from Part 1. If Newell has got one big thing over Yates, then it's Voldemort. The overall understanding that he had of the character was just breathtaking. He found the essence of Voldemort.
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Martin, I will have to read this when I have a bit more more time! I'll definitely comment then. Sounds like you did a very nice job.
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You know, from the Gringott’s scene straight through to Harry’s death is brilliant. Just looking at it the film flows so incredibly well and there’s a magnitude of great scenes (The Dragon Flight, Battle, Forest Again, Prince’s Tale and so on) and the storytelling is really quite masterful in these moments. The beginning of the film is fine but not the most engaging thing. I honestly felt Part I had a superior beginning with the emotion of the Obliviate montage and then the darkness of Malfoy Manor. With Part II we get a nice opening but we then fall into a sort of rigid exposition field with both Griphook and Ollivander. I wish they’d broken them up with maybe a couple of minutes of more character-driven scenes, maybe some bits of reflection.
I also feel the end is a little less powerful than the rest of the film. The procession scene is excellent, no doubt, the ambience is perfect but Neville’s speech is so odd and feels so artificial, awkward and drawn out. I don’t mind Voldemort in the scene but Neville is just to impossible to take seriously for me. The other thing that I feel is, whilst the duel between Harry and Voldemort is immense, the battle in the Great Hall feels to unfocused and rushed. Still, the final spells in the courtyard is fantastic again. That being said, I do feel that the aftermath in the Great Hall and the scene on the bridge are both lovely little moments and the epilogue was fine in my book
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Also, I find it very strange that after I saw DH7.1, I remembered so much afterward but I can't remember shit from DH7.2 other than what I dislike about it.
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