HP Cryptogram #4

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

A cryptogram is a message in which one letter is substituted for another. Here is a passage from SS/PS:

FZOPPO, EQ BAP ZPHB YXCZFZR AMCCQ MZO CXZ BAXJRAB BAMB YPPBFZR BAP BACPP-APMOPO OXR AMO EPPZ MZ PHLPUUPZB MOKPZBJRP, MZO BAPQ GPCP DJFBP NPPZ BX AMKP MZXBAPC XZP.

Clue: N=Z

Can you solve the cryptogram?

Richard · August 2011

um.... I dont get it lol

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

um.... I dont get it lol

The clue is N=Z, so every time you see a Z, you replace it with an N. The same goes for the other letters. If you think that A=C, then it will be that way throughout the message.

Popkin · August 2011

Jesus Christ...this is why I would not be in Ravenclaw. Right there.

adriel · August 2011

Jesus Christ...this is why I would not be in Ravenclaw. Right there.

^THIS.

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

Helpful hint: Whenever you see double letters (i.e. PP), you can eliminate A, H, I, J, K, Q, U, V, W, X, and Y as being the solution because there aren't any words with AA, HH, etc. in them.

Popkin · August 2011

I feel like I'm back in Calculus class in H.S......

...did I mention I passed with a solid D?

Fangwidgeon · August 2011

I've figured out quite a few letters now. I'll post the sentence when i'm done.
EDIT: Damn, really stuck, I think I stuffed it up.

Richard · August 2011

um.... I dont get it lol
Wow, Richard. More reason why you were given Hufflepuff.

youre saying huffelpuffs are DUMB? bitch please.

Abhishek · August 2011

I can do this in sleep lol.... I love these things..... By the way when I first read the thread title I was reminded of:

TheDoctor · August 2011

FZOPPO, EQ BAP ZPHB YXCZFZR AMCCQ MZO CXZ BAXJRAB BAMB YPPBFZR BAP BACPP-APMOPO OXR AMO EPPZ MZ PHLPUUPZB MOKPZBJRP, MZO BAPQ GPCP DJFBP NPPZ BX AMKP MZXBAPC XZP.

indeed, by the next morning harry and ron thought that meeting the three-headed dog had been an excellent adventuge, and they were quite keen to have another one.

I believe there was a mistake made with the r in the word adventure.

Abhishek · August 2011

Weasley is right!!!!

I did not do it completely, I figured out that BAP = THE and MZO = AND and then it sort of became easy from there.

Marie_Anette · August 2011

.....you guys are smart and shit ;|

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

FZOPPO, EQ BAP ZPHB YXCZFZR AMCCQ MZO CXZ BAXJRAB BAMB YPPBFZR BAP BACPP-APMOPO OXR AMO EPPZ MZ PHLPUUPZB MOKPZBJRP, MZO BAPQ GPCP DJFBP NPPZ BX AMKP MZXBAPC XZP.

indeed, by the next morning harry and ron thought that meeting the three-headed dog had been an excellent adventuge, and they were quite keen to have another one.

I believe there was a mistake made with the r in the word adventure.

Yes, that is the correct answer, weasley9, and I did indeed make a mistake with the r in adventure. (It ought to have been a C.)

Another one will be coming up shortly.

Abhishek · August 2011

NOW.

Obliviator · August 2011

please

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

Here is one from CoS-

ICXSU HGU MCIRIHZWNI ULCIWMU WY HGU LCPCUI, LZWYUIIWZ FWSAGRZH GRM XWH TZWNQGH FCJU SZURHNZUI HW SFRII.

Clue: U=E (When you see the letter U, substitute an E for it.)

Jason · August 2011

Obliviator · August 2011

Since the disastrous episode of the pixies, professor lockhart had not brought live creatures to class.

Abhishek · August 2011

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. :O

Obliviator · August 2011

^ Lime?

Mac · August 2011

SINCE THE DISASTROUS EPISODE OF THE PIXIES PROFESSOR LOCKHART HAD NOT BROUGHT LIVE CREATURES TO CLASS

TheDoctor · August 2011

:O, you got that fast!

Abhishek · August 2011

Lime? No I was complimenting you. You did that in no time!!!!

Obliviator · August 2011

Get the little words first. The, to, and, of are some common ones.

Obliviator · August 2011

I was saying lime, because that was what was in mac's xP

TheDoctor · August 2011

Get the little words first. The, to, and, of are some common ones.

Yeah, that's what I do. The first one Cathy posted is the first one I've ever fully done though. It's really fun! I might get more into these lol

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

Since the disastrous episode of the pixies, professor lockhart had not brought live creatures to class.

That's it, Obliviator.

aaron · August 2011

Nice work. BTW, HPF seems to be glitching comments by changing up the order slightly after posting so that's what the confusion is here.

Obliviator · August 2011

Since I solved it, I decided to make one. It's from Prisoner of Azkaban. First time making one, so I hope it's not to difficult to solve.

VDIDMHEJN FJD FIEMC HBD OEGXDNH RJDFHGJDN HBFH ZFXA HBQN DFJHB. HBDU QMODNH HBD VFJADNH, OQXHBQDNH WXFRDN, HBDU CXEJU QM VDRFU FMV VDNWFQJ, HBDU VJFQM WDFRD, BEWD, FMV BFWWQMDNN EGH EO HBD FQJ FMV FJEGMV HBDI.

H=T

Abhishek · August 2011

Dementors are among the foulest creatures that walk this earth.
They infest the darkest, filthiest places, they glory in decay and despair,
they drain peace, hope, and happiness out of the air around
them.

kathiye · August 2011

I got... a couple of letters on that one

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

Here's one from GoF-

"SFODJ WOAKJM, QIP OWOYVBX GJCBDVBX KPFFPQ..."

Clue: Q=T (Whenever you see a Q, substitute a T for it.)

Obliviator · August 2011

Good job abhi.

Marie_Anette · August 2011

i don't understand how these work T_T
I had a theory and that proved wrong, the other one also proved wrong... idgi :[

Pensieve Seeker · August 2011

i don't understand how these work T_T
I had a theory and that proved wrong, the other one also proved wrong... idgi :[

Each letter in this message has been substituted by another letter. For example, maybe I substituted all the "E"s with "H"s. If this is true, then all the "H"s in the message are actually "E"s and so you change the "H"s into "E"s.

Marie_Anette · August 2011

i don't understand how these work T_T
I had a theory and that proved wrong, the other one also proved wrong... idgi :[
Each letter in this message has been substituted by another letter. For example, maybe I substituted all the "E"s with "H"s. If this is true, then all the "H"s in the message are actually "E"s and so you change the "H"s into "E"s.

oh I got that, but is there some sort of pattern? or they're just randomly replaced?

Abhishek · August 2011

Yes the substitution does not follow a linear pattern.
For example if you are given that H in the coded text is to be replaced by T when you decode it, IT DOESNT MEAN that the next letter I is to be replaced by U.
At first even I made the same mistake.
The best way, as Obliviator put it, is to look for the small words that are present more than others.
For example, in Obliviator's question, "HBD" came quite a lot, and given that H = T, you can start with the assumption that HBD = THE, in which case H=T;B=H and D =E.

Similarly, "HBDI" and "HBDU" must be they and then (you need to figure out which is which though). Now since "HBDU" is the first word in the second sentence, I assumed that it is more likely to be "they" rather than "then", from which you get:
U=Y
and I =N.

Understood???

Abhishek · August 2011

Here's one from GoF-

"SFODJ WOAKJM, QIP OWOYVBX GJCBDVBX KPFFPQ..."

Clue: Q=T (Whenever you see a Q, substitute a T for it.)

Draco Malfoy, the amazing bouncing ferret ...
I would give my methodology too:
1)Since Q=T, I assumed QIP = THE, which implies that I=H and P=E.
2)The last word KPFFPQ can be translated to, _E__ET.
3)The 2 blanks in between contain same letter. Going through the alphabets, only _ELLET (in which case F=L) or _ERRET (F=R) make sense.
4)_ERRET can be immediately recognized as FERRET (Draco Malfoy). The rest is easy.

aaron · August 2011

Okay, make another one, I'm dying to solve.

Marie_Anette · August 2011

I figured it out after reading what you guys said and the stuff on cryptograms.org
i still find them a bit hard, since i'm not good with logical thinking and am a slow person.

) but they're fun and interesting as long as i start on simpler ones.

Abhishek · August 2011

LOL Aaron.....ok wait I am making another one from OOTP now. It takes a little time because it has to be made solvable in a reasonable time.

EDIT - Marie!!! This is a pleasant surprise lol. Dont get to catch you at this time.

Marie_Anette · August 2011

Well i didn't go to sleep

) it's around 10am i think... just leisurely sitting here with my tea

Soular15 · August 2011

Draco Malfoy, the amazing bouncing ferret-

is this it?

Edit: I just came in, so didn't see the answer... lol

Abhishek · August 2011

OK this one is from the order of the phoenix.
....…djjsyz qe aw mlr afz nat a wyah whlcsdlfk zjtf zqrbdyzjhy’n xacy lfwj mln djfk nldoyh byahz.

HINT
A = A
Should be enough for you to solve it. Apply your brains. !!!!

In CAPS, to read it better.

….DJJSYZ QE AW MLR AFZ NAT A WYAH WHLCSDLFK ZJTF ZQRBDYZJHY’N XACY LFWJ MLN DJFK NLDOYH BYAHZ.

aaron · August 2011

....looked up at him and saw a tear trickling down Dumbledore's face into his long silver beard?

Abhishek · August 2011

Right!!!!

EDIT - Aaron how did you do it???

aaron · August 2011

Figured out that AFZ was 'and' and QE was 'up' and AW was 'at', all the short words, etc, and then "Dumbledore's." It all fell into place!

TubbyToast · August 2011

New one please!

js1138 · August 2011

Would it be rude to point out that one could Google "cryptogram solver"?

But I would never post the results of an automated solver. But I was tempted.

Abhishek · August 2011

New one please!

Try and solve the above ones Tubby.

One person solving them first first doesnt mean that other dont have to try it!!!!
I will be posting one from HBP in a moment.

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