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The Lovely Bones - Not the Stupidest Movie Out There but needs work

AllStar87AllStar87 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭
edited August 2011 in General
This movie just makes me want to scream. To my surprisement, the film was directed by Peter Jackson{LOTR} and it wasn't up to the collaber of LOTR. The Lovely Bones is about a male predator who rapes and kills young girls. Its all centered around a 14 year old named Susan. I mean this concept disgusts me to no end how sick ppl can be by cutting girls up and putting them in a locker or bathing in their blood. But the sexual predator kills her and the movie is all about solving who did it. Susan is in the afterlife and makes the stupidest choice alive. She has a wish that could do anthing. Meanwhile the predator has packed up and left the country and Susan's family has gone beyond to solve this. The most selfish wish and stupid she came up with was her 1st kiss. She could have wished for her parents finding her or the man to die but no. I don't blaim Peter Jackson because this was based off a book.
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  • Marie_AnetteMarie_Anette Posts: 3,506
    I thought the film was interesting. :-??
    It had an interesting concept and imagery.
    I agree that some parts were well, at the very least stupid, but I wouldn't bash it. It's not a bad film.
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  • I thought this film was pretty decent not the best film in the world by a long shot, but it had an interesting story and wondeful acting
  • JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never saw the movie yet, might as well pick it up.
  • I like the film. The Cinematography was beautiful especially when she "crossed over."
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  • Marie_AnetteMarie_Anette Posts: 3,506
    edited August 2011
    Yes and I loved that tree ... kind of like a tree of life :]
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  • Yesm and I loved that tree ... kind of like a tree of life :]
    This.
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  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bought it today and will watch in the future. Getting it for $4 and not liking it is no skin off my arse when I can sell it.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    I didnt like it.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
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    Nah just kidding, I haven't gotten around to seeing it quite yet.
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  • This movie just makes me want to scream. To my surprisement, the film was directed by Peter Jackson{LOTR} and it wasn't up to the collaber of LOTR. The Lovely Bones is about a male predator who rapes and kills young girls. Its all centered around a 14 year old named Susan. I mean this concept disgusts me to no end how sick ppl can be by cutting girls up and putting them in a locker or bathing in their blood. But the sexual predator kills her and the movie is all about solving who did it. Susan is in the afterlife and makes the stupidest choice alive. She has a wish that could do anthing. Meanwhile the predator has packed up and left the country and Susan's family has gone beyond to solve this. The most selfish wish and stupid she came up with was her 1st kiss. She could have wished for her parents finding her or the man to die but no. I don't blaim Peter Jackson because this was based off a book.
    If you thought this movie was wrong . . . just read the plot to Serbian film:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Serbian_Film

    Even The Human Centipede pales in comparison.

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  • Marie_AnetteMarie_Anette Posts: 3,506
    " Rasa then proceeds to rape the newborn in what the director calls "newborn porn" "

    It's hard to make me go O__O but this is just :|:|:|
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  • Marie_AnetteMarie_Anette Posts: 3,506
    Or he should try Perfume: Story of a Murderer, lol
    that movie is brilliant, no matter how disturbing it is.

    And god, what the fuck did I just read :|:|:|
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  • Hahaha gross isn't it??
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  • Perfume is freaky shit.. especially the mother popping a baby out in a fish market during the day and getting up to sell more fish leaving the newborn in fish guts and then he gets eaten at the end :P
  • Marie_AnetteMarie_Anette Posts: 3,506
    It's all very symbolic...
    And how he was born is just the reality of the time I guess.... Horrible but true
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  • Word of warning, do not, under any circumstances, get drunk and think it's funny to watch A Serbian Film. Me and my housemates heard about it after watching Human Centipede and thought we'd watch it. Only, once it was on we couldn't stop watching because we were so horrified by what we were seeing. I literally had nightmares for a month after seeing it. It should actually be made illegal, and the writer/director/anyone involved with it should be arrested.
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  • Nothing at all has anything on ASF though LC. Seriously. The writer of that film must have serious mental issues. It's vile.
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  • Word of warning, do not, under any circumstances, get drunk and think it's funny to watch A Serbian Film. Me and my housemates heard about it after watching Human Centipede and thought we'd watch it. Only, once it was on we couldn't stop watching because we were so horrified by what we were seeing. I literally had nightmares for a month after seeing it. It should actually be made illegal, and the writer/director/anyone involved with it should be arrested.
    Hahaha . . . question is why did you watch Human Centipede in the first place?

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  • BloodHallow175BloodHallow175 Posts: 731
    edited August 2011
    What the hell is this Human Centipede film I've heard so much about...?
    Pretty much from what I've read a mad crazy doctor kidnaps 3 people and knocks them out and when they wake up he has surgically attached each of them in a line by mouth to asshole. So when one shits the one behind them must eat it. And so fourth.
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  • About The Lovely Bones... It could be much better. The whole movie is a mess.


    My friend watched A Serbian Movie and after he described me a scene, I was shcoked and I'll never watch it. For me, the writer should be arrested or something.
  • AllStar87AllStar87 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭
    Yeah I agree Ill change it LC. I literally just ran home to my computer after watching it at my friendss house and was in rage but I've began to deal with it.
  • Well it was disappointing coming from Peter Jackson, sure...but I hadn't seen any of his other films besides LotR at that point. I don't hold him in as high of esteem now that I have. BTW, here's my review of this film in question.

    So, you haven't seen King Kong? What's wrong with you . . . lol?
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  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jackson's Heavenly Creatures is amazing too.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jackson's Heavenly Creatures is amazing too.
    LOL, not really.
    Why not? I think it's one of his best earlier works, with The Frighteners, a comedy, coming in behind it.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • What the hell, LC.

    Just because you've seen all of those movies you think you understand about filmmaking? Quantity is not quality. And it doesn't make you a critic. Just saying.


  • Um, nothing? I'm pretty sure I'm a bigger film enthusiast then you, but let me ask you...how many of these essential viewings have you seen?

    Um, that was a joke hense the lol afterwards, but since you want to play "who has the bigger film dick," I'll tell you what, after you have graduated film school, worked on multiple features and have worked in the industry as long as I have, we'll play.

    Don't believe me?
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    That's Ed Asner, but you been the biggest film enthusiast should know who he is already.

    You're not even worth it.
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  • I totally agree with Blood!

    You know what pisses me off? It's funny. No one discuss about engineering, medicine, astronomy, unless they really understand or studied it. With filmmaking, it should be the same! I just graduated in Filmmaking and some times I hear things that makes me want shoot myself haha lol.

    Today, everyone think they can be movie enthusiastics and specialists.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Um, BloodHallow looks much older than 16 and you have to be 18 to get a tattoo, which he has a pretty sick-looking one on his arm. :)
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  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heavenly Creatures-

    Acting- 7.5
    Script- 8.5
    Visuals- 8
    Sound- 7.5
    Editing- 7

    Total Score= 77

    Verdict- the story stands out but it could've been better presented. Amongst other things I would have cut down the fantasy and not started in media res. Oh, and it would have helped immensely if the actress of the other girl had been of the same standard as Kate Winslet
    This is worthless as there is no elaboration, but I'll bite. The fantasy is a part of what drove them mad, so it was drastically needed. Your comment about Melanie Lynskey just shows your lack of knowledge about her and Kate Winslet regarding this movie.

    Bloodhallow, I wouldn't even engage Baseball regarding your credentials as he is a known conspiracy theorist.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I totally agree with Blood!

    You know what pisses me off? It's funny. No one discuss about engineering, medicine, astronomy, unless they really understand or studied it. With filmmaking, it should be the same! I just graduated in Filmmaking and some times I hear things that makes me want shoot myself haha lol.

    Today, everyone think they can be movie enthusiastics and specialists.
    You don't have to have a degree from a film school to give an opinion on story, acting, and the like. Now, treading into technical debates, like film vs. digital, credentials are desired.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hated both the book and movie.
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • I totally agree with Blood!

    You know what pisses me off? It's funny. No one discuss about engineering, medicine, astronomy, unless they really understand or studied it. With filmmaking, it should be the same! I just graduated in Filmmaking and some times I hear things that makes me want shoot myself haha lol.

    Today, everyone think they can be movie enthusiastics and specialists.
    You don't have to have a degree from a film school to give an opinion on story, acting, and the like. Now, treading into technical debates, like film vs. digital, credentials are desired.
    An opinion is different from a CREDIBLE opinion. Judging the story from a professional point of view, for example, is not saying if it's good, or bad, cliche or inventive. Do you know about the "three act structure" of a screenplay? A plot point? How can you judge a screenplay if you don't know that?

    There's a reason people study movies.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2011
    I mean.. I have nothing against people giving opinions and those kind of stuff.

    But I HATE when people that don't have a theorical base or haven't studied movies acts in an arrogant way. :(

    It's the same thing about literature and arts. I don't understand and I didn't study it. So, I don't act arrogantly when I give my opinion about a book or a painting.
  • BloodHallow175BloodHallow175 Posts: 731
    edited August 2011

    LOL, no I don't believe you. First of all you look about 16 so it's hard to believe any of that and secondly how do I know that's not just at some fan event?
    This is from a movie I worked on called Witness Insecurity. Staring Ed Asner(Up, President of SAG for many years, Mary Taylor Moore Show) MeatLoaf (Flight Club and he is also a rock legend) Edward Furlong (Terminator 2, Green Hornet) Jim Orr was the DP (Deadlist Warrior, Flyboys) I art PAed.
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    Jim Orr (thats me in the back doing set dec)
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    This is another movie I worked on in which me and my team built an inside forest in a 100 yrd warehouse. It stared
    James Duval (Independence Day, Donnie Darko, Gone in 60 seconds) Lou Taylor Pucci (Carriers, Horsemen) Nora Kirkpatrick (Greek) James Burns (Call of duty:Black OPs, Transformers) Amanda Kimmel (Survivor Reality show) and was executively produced by Daniel Dubiecki (Jennifer's Body, Thank you for Smoking, Up in the air, Juno) I was head construction, and set dec in production.

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    Warehouse started as:
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    and ended up like:
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    This is an actual film camera how many of these have you been around?
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    This is from a short I worked on. This me and Robert George. He was doing scripty but has been an accountant for: (The first 3 pirate movies, Armageddon,Pearl Harbor, National Treasure) The director was Aaron Holly(He works for Weta, and was a modeler on Avatar) I 2nd ACed
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    I don't watch movies, I make them.
    Like I said your not worth it.
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Wow dude, I'm really jealous. :O
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  • AllStar87AllStar87 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭
    I had no idea BloodHallow. Your job is so cool.
  • WOW, BLOOD!
    That's amazing bud!!!!
  • BloodHallow175BloodHallow175 Posts: 731
    edited August 2011
    Oh, and since I didn't answer your question.



    Um, nothing? I'm pretty sure I'm a bigger film enthusiast then you, but let me ask you...how many of these essential viewings have you seen?

    Rear Window. Seen it.
    Psycho. Film School.
    Vertigo. Film School.
    Spellbound.
    North by Northwest. Film School.
    Strangers on a Train. Film School.
    Dial "M" For Murder.
    Foreign Correspondent.
    Shadow of a Doubt.
    To Kill A Mockingbird. Seen it.
    The Big Sleep.
    Raging Bull. Film School.
    The Shawshank Redemption. Seen it.
    Citizen Kane. Was made to sit through it multiple times in film school.
    Raiders of the Lost Ark. Of course, who hasn't. Best director of all time.
    Saving Private Ryan. Own it. Wanna get a tattoo at some point. Best director of all time.
    The Dark Knight. Did you seriously put this in here? That makes this list as credible as Bill Clinton when asked about infidelity.
    Some Like It Hot.
    The Godfather. Seen It.
    Bringing Up Baby.
    The Hurt Locker. Own It.
    The Lord of the Rings. Who Hasn't. Oh, and I own them.
    A Beautiful Mind. Seen It.
    American Beauty. Seen It.
    Forrest Gump. Seen It.
    Unforgiven. Seen it.
    Gone with the Wind. Yup.
    Rain Man. Yup.
    One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Favorite 70's film, wanna get a tattoo of it in some way.
    West Side Story. Seen it.
    Casablanca. Watched it about 5 times in film school. Love me some Bogie. I would recommend The Maltese Falcon.
    It Happened One Night.
    Prestige. Own it.
    The Usual Suspects. Yup.
    Fight Club. Seen it, but hated it.
    Shutter Island. Nope, refused to watch it cause I guessed the ending from the trailer.
    Se7en. Yup.
    Memento. Film School.
    Identity. Seen it.
    Star Wars. Who hasn't?
    Jurassic Park. Best movie in history. I wouldn't have a fucking JP inspired Trex tattooed on my arm if I didn't think so.Best director of all time.
    Titanic. Saw it in theaters.
    Jaws. Grew up watch them. and of course the best director of all time.
    What a f.u.c.k.t.a.r.d.
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  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL at putting a Nolan move in that list.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    damn thats sweet!
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    I totally agree with Blood!

    You know what pisses me off? It's funny. No one discuss about engineering, medicine, astronomy, unless they really understand or studied it. With filmmaking, it should be the same! I just graduated in Filmmaking and some times I hear things that makes me want shoot myself haha lol.

    Today, everyone think they can be movie enthusiastics and specialists.
    You don't have to have a degree from a film school to give an opinion on story, acting, and the like. Now, treading into technical debates, like film vs. digital, credentials are desired.
    An opinion is different from a CREDIBLE opinion. Judging the story from a professional point of view, for example, is not saying if it's good, or bad, cliche or inventive. Do you know about the "three act structure" of a screenplay? A plot point? How can you judge a screenplay if you don't know that?

    There's a reason people study movies.

    Most people are able to recognize a good story when they see it, but they may not be able to articulate exactly why they liked it/disliked it other than saying it was original, emotional, well-told, fun, boring, cliched. And that's perfectly fine because films are made for the audience to be seen. I've not been on a film school (yet), but I do know how the three act structure works and what plot points are through self-learning.
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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011

    I've not studied film on a film school (yet), but I do know how the three act structure works and what plot points are through self-learning.
    Hell, I know it simply through literature courses (amongst other things). They aren't difficult concepts. Certianly don't need to go to a film school to learn 'em.
    Exactly. You go to film school to learn about filmmaking and to practise and develop your own skills, not to learn simple concepts like these. Unless you don't want to make films on your own of course, but only want to learn about film analysis to become a professional critic or professor.
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  • haha, this thread's gone a bit off topic, but The Lovely Bones was an AMAZING book! It was actually REALLY great! I agree the movie wasn't the best, but I still really enjoyed it :P
  • JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm gonna pick up the movie in a few days or so, I saw the trailer, looks okay.
  • PopkinPopkin Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭
    Good book...not so good movie :-/
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    The book was quite book, the film wasn't. Actually, it had its moments but overall it was pretty bad. There were some scenes that made me cringe completely.
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Watching it now.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • I totally agree with Blood!

    You know what pisses me off? It's funny. No one discuss about engineering, medicine, astronomy, unless they really understand or studied it. With filmmaking, it should be the same! I just graduated in Filmmaking and some times I hear things that makes me want shoot myself haha lol.

    Today, everyone think they can be movie enthusiastics and specialists.
    You don't have to have a degree from a film school to give an opinion on story, acting, and the like. Now, treading into technical debates, like film vs. digital, credentials are desired.
    An opinion is different from a CREDIBLE opinion. Judging the story from a professional point of view, for example, is not saying if it's good, or bad, cliche or inventive. Do you know about the "three act structure" of a screenplay? A plot point? How can you judge a screenplay if you don't know that?

    There's a reason people study movies.

    Most people are able to recognize a good story when they see it, but they may not be able to articulate exactly why they liked it/disliked it other than saying it was original, emotional, well-told, fun, boring, cliched. And that's perfectly fine because films are made for the audience to be seen. I've not studied film on a film school (yet), but I do know how the three act structure works and what plot points are through self-learning.
    Of course movies are made to the audience, but you need much more to hava a credible opinion about a movie or script. So basically, I'm going to read everything about orthopedics in Wikipedia and start the give opinions about surgery? Come on.

    "Self-learning" doesn't work that way. Researching on internet isn't learning, but gathering information. That way, no one would need to go to college or stuff. Opening Wikipedia would be enough then.

    That's exaclty the issue with arts in general. Everyone thinks they understand and underestimate people that had actually studied it. I hate when people are arrogant with others when they actually didn't have a learn base of the subject. Like LC was with Blood.
  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    Henrick i wished you gm in the gm thread and you havent responded. :(:(
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, yeah. I'm not sure why critics hated this. I think it's a great, but uneven film. It's uneven in the sense that some things in it are terrible, like Sarandon's bit playing around with the kids, atrocious acting in parts by Weisz and Walhberg, and Susie's glamorous scenes in the "inbetween". Overall I enjoyed it and I can see myself watching it again. Jackson's direction shines here as well, and I particularly love the suspenseful scene with Lindsey in George's house. I like the camera work on the pages as she flips through them, learning that this is the man who killed her sister. The score is magnificent and I unfortunately can't find it anywhere as it's a compilation.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
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