I thought you knew me, you know that i couldn't care less if you or anyone for that matter hates me. If you hate me over a keyboard, what am i to say other than this?
Lord Stafford.
wtf lol I don't hate you, I don't even dislike you, I just disagree on your feelings about Half Blood Prince. I'm sure we can find common ground somewhere, do you enjoy golf?
"If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."
josh horowitz from MTV tweeted this yesterday while live tweeting the teen choice awards
@joshuahorowitz Josh Horowitz Now I want Harry Potter to win an Oscar for no other reason than I want to hear that great score again. #TCAsLiveBloggingDelay
I think Part 2 also has some of the best score usage in the series as well. The movie FREQUENTLY allowed the score to stand out. One of the best parts is when it cuts from Voldemort to Nagini coming down the steps in slow motion after Ron and Hermione. It's fucking AWESOME.
I think Part 2 also has some of the best score usage in the series as well. The movie FREQUENTLY allowed the score to stand out. One of the best parts is when it cuts from Voldemort to Nagini coming down the steps in slow motion after Ron and Hermione. It's fucking AWESOME.
It was. Every time the score was used, it was beautiful. It was grand and operatic.
I have a few standouts in the score usage in the film.
1. We hear a blaring horn while we hold on Bellatrix's face inside Gringotts, and then a jump cut to the cart barreling through the tunnel. This is an awesome cut and the score is sensational.
2. Dragon Flight. As soon as Hermione jumps onto the dragon, the music starts and it is really phenomenal.
3. The usage of the Chamber of Secrets music in the film is at great moments of celebration; it really echoes back to the innocent days of the first few films.
4. As soon as the first statue thumps down onto the ground, Statues begins playing, and this was the part I was waiting for the most. It was a beautiful scene.
5. The soft, eerie pipe notes that play in the background while Harry talks to the Grey Lady and while he is looking for the diadem in the RoR.
I have a few standouts in the score usage in the film.
1. We hear a blaring horn while we hold on Bellatrix's face inside Gringotts, and then a jump cut to the cart barreling through the tunnel. This is an awesome cut and the score is sensational.
2. Dragon Flight. As soon as Hermione jumps onto the dragon, the music starts and it is really phenomenal.
3. The usage of the Chamber of Secrets music in the film is at great moments of celebration; it really echoes back to the innocent days of the first few films.
4. As soon as the first statue thumps down onto the ground, Statues begins playing, and this was the part I was waiting for the most. It was a beautiful scene.
5. The soft, eerie pipe notes that play in the background while Harry talks to the Grey Lady and while he is looking for the diadem in the RoR.
6. Use of Battlefield in the battle.
7. Everything else you mentioned.
What I liked even more about the dragon was the pause it takes as the dragon embraces its freedom.
The more I think about it, the more this movie deserves every fucking award it can possibly get nominated for.
And you're all under the delusion that he is the best thing to ever have happened to Potter. Apparently... Heyman no longer exists.
I think he's one of the best things, and I think he's the best director in the series because he understood that the books are about Harry.
I have to disagree with this. The books are not solely about Harry; the books stress that Harry would be absolutely nothing without his friends. This is an idea which Yates explored quite well in OOTP. After that it made brief appearances here and there but was largely disregarded.
I think Part 2 also has some of the best score usage in the series as well. The movie FREQUENTLY allowed the score to stand out. One of the best parts is when it cuts from Voldemort to Nagini coming down the steps in slow motion after Ron and Hermione. It's fucking AWESOME.
He's an average, good at best director. Nothing more and nothing less. There is no point in pretending that he is a great one, simply because he directed Potter. He doesn't even hold a candle to most other directors, and yes... he is uneven. Incredibly so at times.
Lord Stafford.
He's miles ahead of Columbus and Newell though, even if you have the opinion that he's average.
I wouldn't say Columbus, look at how good he has done outside of Potter? Yates is a director of Potter, but mainly... he is a TV director! Newell is also someone who has done well outside of this series.
Lord Stafford.
See, that's where facts disagree with what you're saying. Other than Potter, Columbus hasn't had a film with mainly positive reviews since 1993 and for Newell, the same going back to 1997. Outside Potter, both haven't actually done well...
And since Yates hasn't done anything since Potter, that's the only thing we have to grade him on. And that grading? A very, VERY good one.
Other than Part 2... the three films beforehand that Yates did, received just as bad, if not worse overall reviews than the all earlier ones. Both Columbus and Newell are known outside of Potter, can we say the same for Yates? The answer is no, we cannot!
Lord Stafford.
Well that's 100% absolutely FASLE! Here's RT info
Columbus Percy Jackson - 50% I love beth cooper - 15% Rent - 47% Bicentennial Man - 38% Stepmon - 44% Nine Months - 25% Sorcerer's Stone - 80% Chamber of Secrets - 83%
Newell Prince of Persia - 36% Love in the Time of Chloera - 26% Goblet of Fire - 85% Mona Lisa Smile - 35% Pushing Tin - 48%
Yates Order of the Phoenix - 78% Half-Blood Prince - 83% Deathly Hallows Part 1 - 79%
And....wait for it....
Deathly Hallows Part 2 - 97% MOTHER FUCKING PERCENT!
LOL, I see Stafford conveniently ignored this post.
And you're all under the delusion that he is the best thing to ever have happened to Potter. Apparently... Heyman no longer exists.
I think he's one of the best things, and I think he's the best director in the series because he understood that the books are about Harry.
I have to disagree with this. The books are not solely about Harry; the books stress that Harry would be absolutely nothing without his friends. This is an idea which Yates explored quite well in OOTP. After that it made brief appearances here and there but was largely disregarded.
The HARRY POTTER books are not solely about Harry? :-??
I see people describing Part 1 as "post-apocalyptic. Well now this is a bit of an overstatement. The effects of Voldemort's coup on the Muggles is completely absent from the movie besides a few seconds of a burnt out caravan park and the whole persecution plot isn't really as strongly alluded to as it might be. It's a grim movie for the most part, that's for sure, but to call it post-apocalyptic is a bit strong when nothing particularly "apocalyptic" happens and the Muggles seem almost completely untouched by events, besides a few scorched campsites. :-))
And you're all under the delusion that he is the best thing to ever have happened to Potter. Apparently... Heyman no longer exists.
I think he's one of the best things, and I think he's the best director in the series because he understood that the books are about Harry.
I have to disagree with this. The books are not solely about Harry; the books stress that Harry would be absolutely nothing without his friends. This is an idea which Yates explored quite well in OOTP. After that it made brief appearances here and there but was largely disregarded.
The HARRY POTTER books are not solely about Harry? :-??
No. Just because they are called HARRY POTTER doesn't mean that he is the solely important character, unless you are so simplistic that you think a title matters more than the hundreds of thousands of words of content involving far more than HARRY POTTER? Did you miss the whole theme about how vital Harry's friends were to him? I guess you completely missed the whole point of the series. Bravo, clever clogs. :-))
I see people describing Part 1 as "post-apocalyptic. Well now this is a bit of an overstatement. The effects of Voldemort's coup on the Muggles is completely absent from the movie besides a few seconds of a burnt out caravan park and the whole persecution plot isn't really as strongly alluded to as it might be. It's a grim movie for the most part, that's for sure, but to call it post-apocalyptic is a bit strong when nothing particularly "apocalyptic" happens and the Muggles seem almost completely untouched by events, besides a few scorched campsites. :-))
I think John is referring to the overall feel and atmosphere of the film. I'm watching DH1 right now, and it does feel very, I don't know how to say it ... obscure? Perhaps? Everything is crumbling down in DH1. Mostly hope and friendship.
I'm not saying Part 1 is not a great movie; in fact I appreciate it more than ever with the exception of the Malfoy Manor fiasco - it definitely feels very grim for the most part. But I just wouldn't describe it in such strong terms as post-apocalyptic.
I'm talking about the feel. The Exodus montage is exactly this. 'Post-apocalyptic'. The cinematography, the grim feel and the little parallels throughout the film create this sort of feel of impending doom.
I'm talking about the feel. The Exodus montage is exactly this. 'Post-apocalyptic'. The cinematography, the grim feel and the little parallels throughout the film create this sort of feel of impending doom.
I don't get all the hate GoF gets. Outside the fandom, it's regarded as one of the best Potter films.
Hear, hear! If it was that bad, then it wouldn't have spurred me to start reading the books.
Just as it was a few years ago with Columbus, it's become "in" to hate on all things GOF. It's certainly not the best Potter movie, but to call it the worst is a bit of a stretch. It was the first and only truly entertaining Potter movie, and whether or not you like that it put priority on entertainment as opposed to mood, I think a movie as energetic as GOF was required to keep mainstream audiences interested - if they had made it less fun and energetic and big, I don't think as much of the casual audience would have remained interested.
I'm not saying Part 1 is not a great movie; in fact I appreciate it more than ever with the exception of the Malfoy Manor fiasco
I never understood the hate for The Malfoy Manor sequence. It's one of my favorite parts of the film. Aside from Wormtail's "death" ... I thought everything was great!
For those of you saying Dobby was "pure comedy"; I disagree. Dobby was just being ... Dobby.
I don't get all the hate GoF gets. Outside the fandom, it's regarded as one of the best Potter films.
Hear, hear! If it was that bad, then it wouldn't have spurred me to start reading the books.
Just as it was a few years ago with Columbus, it's become "in" to hate on all things GOF. It's certainly not the best Potter movie, but to call it the worst is a bit of a stretch. It was the first and only truly entertaining Potter movie, and whether or not you like that it put priority on entertainment as opposed to mood, I think a movie as energetic as GOF was required to keep mainstream audiences interested - if they had made it less fun and energetic and big, I don't think as much of the casual audience would have remained interested.
I agree. I love GOF even though it's not the best Harry Potter film. It's very entertaining, just like the book.
It brought a deeper darkness to the series. I loved it.
OotP isn't a political thriller, but the feel is there. HBP is not an independent French artsy film, but it feels like a painting on the big screen. DH1 isn't Children of Men, but there is this very dark, unbearably somber feel. DH2 isn't on Return of the King's epic scale, but the feel is similar. Grand and operatic.
Yates managed to give a special flavor to each of his films, without losing the basic Harry Potter feel. DH2's King's Cross sequence, for instance, with its theological and philosophical feel, is like a scene taken from a film dealing with existentialism. The childhood memories of Snape in the countryside feel like taken from a Terrence Malick film. Of course they're based on Jo's material, but the cinematography and atmosphere draw interesting parallels and create a visually interesting palette.
I'm talking about the feel. The Exodus montage is exactly this. 'Post-apocalyptic'. The cinematography, the grim feel and the little parallels throughout the film create this sort of feel of impending doom.
Well then it's a very superficial sense of apocalypse. The radio in the background is an inspired touch, and there are a couple of little bits like the trio hiding from the Death Eaters and the caravan park that make it suitably grim, but I think the sense of doom would have been stronger if it hadn't just been shots of the trio walking through different landscapes. If we'd seen the Snatchers and the Dementors roaming through the world, if we'd distantly seen them attacking towns like we did in the book, if they'd visually focused on the chaos the world has descended into by this point and parallel that with the trio's relationship descending into chaos, it could have been even more impactful than it was. It would also have given time for them to subtly introduce the makeup to make Ron look like he's turning bad more gradually, as opposed to him suddenly popping up onscreen looking like he's about to rip out his two friends' hearts and eat them.
The Exodus Montage was all about the trio's dying friendship. Despair, hopelessness; it was extremely beautiful and haunting.
It would also have given time for them to subtly introduce the makeup to make Ron look like he's turning bad more gradually, as opposed to him suddenly popping up onscreen looking like he's about to rip out his two friends' hearts and eat them.
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Like i said... i did no such thing.
Lord Stafford.
Except, i don't do that which you say i do.
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
@joshuahorowitz Josh Horowitz
Now I want Harry Potter to win an Oscar for no other reason than I want to hear that great score again. #TCAsLiveBloggingDelay
dragon flight was used really well too gave me chills
1. We hear a blaring horn while we hold on Bellatrix's face inside Gringotts, and then a jump cut to the cart barreling through the tunnel. This is an awesome cut and the score is sensational.
2. Dragon Flight. As soon as Hermione jumps onto the dragon, the music starts and it is really phenomenal.
3. The usage of the Chamber of Secrets music in the film is at great moments of celebration; it really echoes back to the innocent days of the first few films.
4. As soon as the first statue thumps down onto the ground, Statues begins playing, and this was the part I was waiting for the most. It was a beautiful scene.
5. The soft, eerie pipe notes that play in the background while Harry talks to the Grey Lady and while he is looking for the diadem in the RoR.
6. Use of Battlefield in the battle.
7. Everything else you mentioned.
The more I think about it, the more this movie deserves every fucking award it can possibly get nominated for.
was the actual definition of
QUALITY CINEMA.
G.G.
Kelly did an amazing job actually ,
but I wanted Kate,
damn it.
G.G.
"Protego Maxima! Fianto Duri! ... "
G.G.
overall feel and atmosphere
of the film. I'm watching DH1
right now, and it does feel
very, I don't know how to say
it ... obscure? Perhaps?
Everything is crumbling down
in DH1. Mostly hope and friendship.
Such an excellent film
G.G.
Pottermore user name: SilverQuest212
G.G.
BTW, nice job quoting Dan
G.G.
for The Malfoy Manor sequence.
It's one of my favorite parts of
the film. Aside from Wormtail's
"death" ... I thought everything
was great!
For those of you saying Dobby
was "pure comedy"; I disagree.
Dobby was just being ... Dobby.
G.G.
though it's not the best
Harry Potter film. It's very
entertaining, just like the
book.
It brought a deeper darkness
to the series. I loved it.
G.G.
Yates managed to give a special flavor to each of his films, without losing the basic Harry Potter feel. DH2's King's Cross sequence, for instance, with its theological and philosophical feel, is like a scene taken from a film dealing with existentialism. The childhood memories of Snape in the countryside feel like taken from a Terrence Malick film. Of course they're based on Jo's material, but the cinematography and atmosphere draw interesting parallels and create a visually interesting palette.
:-))
about the trio's dying friendship.
Despair, hopelessness; it was
extremely beautiful and haunting.
LOL!
G.G.