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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "JKR: Yeah, I really did. I knew, I mean I knew from early days that we were never going to see them graduate. I knew that he would, well not he, but they, all three of them would not- We would not see them at school during what should've been their final year of education, but I really, during the final book, kept thinking it would've been- It felt sad that the book wasn't going to end with that feast scene, the graduation scene, but it couldn't, it just couldn't. That's not the way it could've ended. It would've felt far too trite, and a lot of people felt the epilogue was too sentimental. I think to have a graduation scene on top of what just (SU: Yeah.) happened would've been absurd (SU laughs) (JN: Aw.) anticlimax."

    Source: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/12/23/transcript-of-part-1-of-pottercast-s-jk-rowling-interview
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    Look in the end, it's your opinion whether Twilight is enjoyable. However it is fact that it is not well written.

    I'll give an example that I noticed in the first book, which was the only one I read. Bella says at one point she is not "verbose". Anyone who says that word is most certainly verbose. Just because she used a fancy word doesn't make it good writing, it makes it worse if she it wrongly. :-))

    Also, the writing was too passive. Passive writing should be kept to a minimum. She also tells instead of shows. These are symtoms of bad writing.
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well i can see that...but i totally disagree

    DH was good because it was mature...the locations also matured and set up drama

    ron wouldnt of left if they were at hogwarts
    alot of the development would have been tampered.
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  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    i just dont get what you expected alan?

    did you want harry to be in hogwarts and not have great scenes like silver doe? malfoy manor? godrics hallow?
    seriously be happy it WASNT at hogwarts
    I thought it would have been cool if he want back to Hogwarts and at night searched for the Horcruxes or did some of his planning there or even go to Hogwarts for a little bit at the beginning.
    So the fact that Voldemort had taken over the Ministry wouldn't have mattered. Oh dear, thank God you never wrote these books.

    :-))
  • LupinLupin Posts: 120
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    I like Bella better then Bellatrix.

    I like Edward better then Cedric.

    I like Lupin better then Jacob. :-D
    How you could like a personality vaccuum better than Bellatrix is beyond comprehension.

  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But many characters still died....
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    transformersand twilight

    now THATS a fair comparison :)
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But many characters still died....
    Still... she's said in interviews she was torn up over deaths of characters. She didn't want to kill them. Her husband even told her not to do so if she couldn't go through with it.

    The problem is, as a writer, you can't get too emotional over your stories. You stop yourself from doing something, and it ruins them. I have been guilty of this myself.
    And she did go through it with the exception of one character.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Caring for these characters? No, I'm sorry, I just don't care if each played a game of russian roulette and all died, I'd probably piss myself laughing. And considering Meyer's writing, I wouldn't put it past her...

    But hey, that's just my opinion. I don't have a problem with you liking it, I just don't see what you see.
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    My Official Statement about This,
    there is no point - do not share the same core literature, because anyone who makes negative or positive comparison is limited to seeing that every written word has its value as a writer and the reader. HP is normally deeper fulfillment in both literary story, the formulation of sentences and paragraphs, and in the shaping of characters, but it in no way means that Twilight is not well written book(for Twilight fans) ... only with lower development regarding relationship the characters and story.
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    megjuodnos
    lolwut?

    I was at same time chatting with someone accidently put that.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like this one:

    In PoA when Harry and Hermione travel back with the time turner and Lupin uses the marauders map to see Peter and Sirius shouldn't he see 2 Harrys and 2 Hermionies?

    Possible explanations: they were in a different part of the castle so Lupin didnt see

    as soon as lupin saw pettigrew and sirius he went, not looking at other parts

    the map has those flaps and tons of pages of course, so perhaps he didnt see
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    All these stuff could be explained in Pottermore..P
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should. It would be cool. :)
    Well, I think the only response I would get from many people here is how it is a thread meant to bash the series, instead of seeing it as a good conversation. The same conversation is on CoS forums and it is one of the more popular discussed threads.
    No, it's a topic of discussion. No one is going to bash you :p
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL JKR said she would explain why Quidditch isn't illogical on Pottermore. I always assumed that in real Quidditch, outside of amateur school students, the quaffle is usually scored so many times in a game that the Snitch doesn't make a difference most of the time during matches.
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    We need to stop these Twilight Vs Potter.Both of them are ending....Which one is better?That's your choice...Agree or Disagree.I Don't Give a Fuck...Iam enjoying it what I like......We just have to let down... NO MORE TWILIGHT fights......You can bash the Twilight news...Fury and James just dont get to discuss that will lead to fight.
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  • LupinLupin Posts: 120
    edited July 2011
    Fine tell me this.

    In Chamber of Secrets, why was Harry accused of being the Heir of Slytherin when he was best friends with a muggleborn?

    In Goblet of Fire, why did everyone get mad at Harry when his name came out of the goblet? A lot of people were trying to sneak there name in.

    In Goblet of Fire, Dumbledore said the bonds of friendship between the three schools was important?

    Why? They didn't come to fight in Deathly Hallows.

    How can Tom Riddle be the Heir of Slytherin when Slytherin prized purebloods and Voldemort himself was a half-blood?

    There are flaws in ever book. Harry Potter is not flawless.

    OKEY, did not see anyone answer to all of these satisfactory enough, so im gonna give it a go!:)

    1. He was accused of that because he could talk to snakes and he was always seen at the scene of the attack, one time people even witnessed what seemed like harry urging a snake to attack some guy. As for the Hermione part, you may recall she was actually petrified after a while? I also remember reading something about someone saying they thought the reason Voldemort wanted to kill him was because he saw harry as a rival to become the new great dark wizard, if Harry was not a dark wizard how could he have defeat Voldemort as only a child! (but that may be from OOTP)
    And, you may be familiar with the consept of rumours, they don't exactly always tell the truth, and do you think the entiiiire school knew Hermione was muggleborne? Do you know every guy in your school who is, lets say, part french...?

    2. Firtsly, never before had there been two champions for one school. Yes people tried to sneak in their name, but to be the only champion. As Harry was named after Cedric people felt he was trying to steal his moment, and Hufflepuff is not used to glory and felt this even more. As for Slytherin, well their just assholes taking their chance to be dicks to harry. Secondly, many were obviously jealous that Harry managed to sneak his name in, Ron even says "you could have told me, im your best friend".
    And last as someone sad before me, it's Harry. He is already immensly famous, and amongst others Rita Skeeter contributed to people thinking that he was attention-addict and did it to become even more gamous! there is more but i would be writing all day to say it all...

    3. Firtsly, the battle wasn't exactly planned by anyone months before, it happened quite spontaniously, how could they warned the schools about the battle quickly enough? DA had a way to contact OOTP. Second, you have as others have mentioned, Fleur and madame Maxime did help. Third, how do we even know everyone at the schools supported the good side? Like you have Slytherins at Hogwarts there were probably not only good people at Beuxabtons and Durmstrang! Fourth, Dumbeldore said it was important, he did not however say it was good, and seeing as how they felt cheated Hogwarts had two champions during the tournament its not impossible the relations were worsened. And finally, at the moment they did perhaps not feel threatened by Voldemort and felt fihting at Hogwarts could be bad for them. Just like USA during WWI, they did not exactly want to join at first !

    4. This was answered before, he is related to Slyhterin, simple enough

    Many things in the books can at first look like flaws, but the thing is, some of the are soo freakin well explained its almost hard to understand!
    Every flaw i've seen anyone mention, I have also seen,or done myself, be explained!
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    I like Bella better then Bellatrix.

    I like Edward better then Cedric.

    I like Lupin better then Jacob. :-D
    omg

  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Jesus Christ. Why does it matter if Harry isn't at Hogwarts for 7 years? Like seriously?
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  • JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Um...kind of an obvious ending?

  • Wolf_PotterWolf_Potter Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭✭
    Also to add. Same thing happened at the end of Transformers: Dark Side of the Moon. There was a huge war and no one died, but the bad guys.

    In war both sides loss people. I don't see anyone bashing Transformers for that. People just bash Twilight because Twilight is Twilight.
    LOL sorry, but there's no battle in BD they are just talking
    Wich is ridiculous.
  • TubbyToastTubbyToast Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lol, these are exciting.
    They are supposed to promote the seriousness of the wedding and stuff.
    You're exactly right. I hadn't thought about that.
    I haven't heard but where will Part 1 end? Jacob imprinting on Renesemee?

    No, Bella opening her eyes for the first time after her transformation... I can't remember if they are gold or red.
    I wonder how they will make the second part exciting. Once you get past the whole "Bella's a vampire! omg!" part of it, it's basically buildup to the Volturi coming and to what should be an exciting conclusion to the series. However, the buildup and the volturi vs. the other vampires is all boring. Furthermore, the way they introduced about 2352352 characters at once in about a single chapter was way too much. They're going to have to make some serious changes frm the source material, which will not please the book fans.
    I don't mean to bash so please don't flame me for this.

    After watching the first Twilight film I find it hard to believe that the book fans were pleased with that film and don't see how they could be with the rest. I went in with an open mind and was very disappointed when I was done. I can't say the film had any qualities that really jumped out at me and said "enjoyable". From a film making standpoint I was even more disappointed. There were so many things wrong with it.

    Maybe they really only care about marketing it to fans of the book and they don't expect much out of the general movie going audience but nothing from their subsequent marketing attempts has said to me "these are better than the first."
    Well, when the first film came out, the twilight fan base wasn't that big. It was a pretty low budget film, because they didn't think or expect too much of it. It was just that it became so popular and every thirteen year old girl started to read (I have to admit I was one of them) and then their moms tried it and maybe their older sisters and cousins and friends and all and so it became what it is today. As you probably noticed, the second movie was a lot better, because they knew they had all the fans coming to see the movie quite a lot times (I have to admit I was one of them). The books sold better too, that for sure.

    The thing about the Twilight saga isn't that the writing is so extraordinary or the plots are genius and overintelligent, it's just that all those girls relate to it, because they all feel so 'extremely weird and humble' and superduperawesome. They all want the love of their lives, someone who loves them like Edward loves Bella and they all want to have superpowers and a best friend like Alice and a hater like Rosalie because that brings attention and pity.

    Ps
    That feud can be funny, but you just can't blame them for a bad writer for their great storie or stupid filmmakers to ruin it or actors who don't even like what they're doing.
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    I'll say again. I don't have anything negative to say about the story Twilight tells. In essence, its central theme is love and so is that of HP. HP is less focused on romance and more of love of family and friends. Thats why people read these stories.

    I have not read the Twilight books, nor will I. This is not because I despise the story but I have only ever heard that the writing style is sometimes hard to get through. I have very little time to read books and I would like to not waste my time on something not written well. The HP books are written well and thats difference number one.

    Difference number two is the quality of films. HP is head and shoulders above Twilight quality of film making wise. I guess that because I am not a fan of the series to begin with I have less interest in wanting to see a film, of poor quality, that tells the story I have read and enjoy. I did not enjoy the writing, the visual effects, and especially the acting of the first Twilight film. And since the production team behind the films continues, as far as I know, to throw a ridiculous amount of their budget at just three actors doesn't lead me to believe they care about making a good film. They care more about the bottom line because they know people will flock to it even if sucks.

    I am not going to bash anyone here for their opinions and everyone saying Twilight sucks and S Meyer sucks then enlighten us as to why that is the case with a logical argument. Name calling and insults about something without giving reasons is quite silly.
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