Deaths in the movie...

Isaiah · July 2011

Did Molly using "Avada Kedavra" when she killed Bellatrix in the book? I don't remember that.
no she didnt but i think the flash was green.
No the flash was red. I liked Bellatrix's death, IMO just having a dead body would have been a little too cliche.

Cliche? Do you realise how cliche death by disintegration is? I liked Voldemort's disintegration because it was a slightly more original effect, but I would still have liked the body to be there. Maybe they could have compromised, had parts of his skin flake off but leave his body behind.
:-?

What other movies besides this one has death by disintegration made it not seen cliche? And plus it makes sense. Voldemort was twisted in the Dark Arts and placing your soul in seven objects has to have some effect on you.

jamar643 · July 2011

Sorcerors Stone. Professor Quirrell was disintegrated

Braveheart · July 2011

Well, there was already the disintegration of the Snatchers, and Bellatrix (hers was completely unnecessary and not a good effect at all), and Nagini. Also, off the top of my head, I can think of Indiana Jones 3 and 4 where people disintegrated, also the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and many vampire films which are not Twilight. Disintegrations also occured in Spiderman. Those are just off the top of my head as well, so yeah, it's pretty cliche.

aaron · July 2011

But Twilight had disintegrations too. Anyways, it makes sense for the Snatchers to disintegrate when they hit the shield. I can even see why they did that for Voldemort/Nagini (both were Horcruxes so they exploded into smoke, etc) but not Bellatrix.

I mean obviously Molly could've sent her a curse that disintegrated her, the logistics of it make sense, but I can't understand the artistic/creative decision behind it. No bad guys had dead bodies in this film, they all disintegrated or fell or whatever.

XDMorsmordreXD · July 2011

I agree; the disintegration were suckish.

Isaiah · July 2011

Clearly JK liked it, why can't we?

XDMorsmordreXD · July 2011

Clearly JK liked it, why can't we?

She's very easy going...

Isaiah · July 2011

Well the books are the books, and the movies are the movies. Gotta live with it.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Clearly JK liked it, why can't we?
She's very easy going...

Exactly. I know she is the author, but still, she approved of the Burrow attack and we know better that it wasn't good at all.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Clearly JK liked it, why can't we?
She's very easy going...
Exactly. I know she is the author, but still, she approved of the Burrow attack and we know better that it wasn't good at all.

Lord Stafford.

It didnt need to be good, it was to prove the point that nowhere in the wizarding world was safe for Harry and his friends, now that Voldemort was getting ready to take over. if it was according to the book, the point wouldnt have gotten through and she was also trying to appeal to the people that havent read the books.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

We've already talked about that, and how it failed.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

When?

Lord Stafford · July 2011

On this very thread and others.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

I just dont understanding how one little additional scene could be such a downer to everyone.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

It wasn't an additional scene, it was the unnecessary adding of Bella disintegrating.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

I wasnt referring to that, but anyway Bella disintegrating was a nice touch to the scene. It was like making her death even more FINAL. If you think about it remember Ginny disintegrating the DE dummy in OOTP. Yates probably wanted to more of the power of Molly's determination and skill towards Bellatrix.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

It wasn't the right way to go about it overall, simple as.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Why because it was in the book and not in the movie? There was a number of things that wasnt in these two movies alone and it still turned out fine.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

No, it isn't because of that.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Then what? JK never said how Voldy and his DE's bodies were disposed of, so maybe David Yates wanted their deaths to be through disintegration.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

And that worked for two of them and two only, even though, both were not Death Eaters.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Are you talking about Voldy and Bella then yes. But if you look at Nagini, it could be that Voldy soul made up Nagini essence ending in its death.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

That is why i said 'two of them work... and two only'

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Nagini's death wasnt explained in that much detail so you know filmmakers, they gotta make it look good.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

I'm okay with Nagini dying the way she did (though, i would have prefered to see her severed head) but with Bella, well... this just proves that they did lie about how they weren't using 3D for the 'wow' effect.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Did you see the movie in 3D? Maybe it wasnt for the WOW effect. It is a war film. Had buldings and towers blow up, might as well have DE blow up too,

Lord Stafford · July 2011

No, just no. If this series has stooped down to the level of being 'might as well' then i regret ever watching it. [-(

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Its doesnt have to be stooped down Staff, you know the filmmakers only did this to generate money and give something the fans and nonfans to remember. They could have had Molly blow Bella out the window while turning to ash.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Even that would have been better than what they actually ended up doing. But we all know that it was a bad way of doing her death.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Not really,as long as Bellatrix died, i was satisfied. I think it was Just that cut from Ron and Hermione made it seem rushed

Lord Stafford · July 2011

She shouldn't have disintegrated, simple as.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Staff, why are you so against this?

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Her disintegration? I never wanted this movie to just have 3D for the sake of it, and that is what it is doing... exploiting the story for the hell of having someone die like that. We all know that the only person who can (and should) disintegrate is Voldy, and we know why. I don't mind Nagini doing so, but having Bella do the same is just going over the top, too far!

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

But the 3D wasnt for stuff jumping out at you, it was just adding to the story.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

It was for the death's, believe it or not.

P.S 7,700TH COMMENT!!

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

It isnt always about the 3D. And plus I read somewhere that fans of the books are choosing 2D over 3D and some of them said that they were satisfied with it.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

As a whole, i'm satified with the 3D. But, just imagine when you buy the DVD and/or Blu Ray, Bella's death is going to be even more stupid looking.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

How? Bella exploding into smoke not ash.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Because it was designed for 3D (like the shot of Nagini coming at us in Part 1) and then in 2D, you don't get the effect properly. Besides, what's worse is that she didn't even turn into smoke or ash. She turned into what looked like a combination of glass and confetti.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

A visual effect mistake, that doesnt mean you have to hate it. And how is something that was shot in 2D was designed for 3D. If it was designed for 3D, the 3D would have worked for all scenes. According to reviewers, the 3D didnt even work for some of the battle scenes.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

The 3D of this movie barely even worked, often you didn't feel fully immersed... the background at times was blurry, that's it. I hate Bella's effect because it shouldn't have been done. And now i have to see it whenever i watch the movie, knowing that they'll never change it. The Nagini shot from Part 1 was clearly designed for the 3D effect and i like that, so, don't bother denying it.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Im not trying to deny anything, Nagini in Part 1 was great but did we see it in 3D, NO and it was still scary. IMO having Bella just get hit by a spell and falling off a table would have been non anti-climatic.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Remember, Part 1 was originally going to be in 3D. And no, it wouldn't be anti climatic... they easily had enough time to lengthen the duel up a bit, that could have resulted in her defeat and it still wouldn't have been anti climatic, just because she doesn't turn to something.

Lord Stafford.

Isaiah · July 2011

Molly sucked the air out of her body, Molly was allowed one Bad Ass moment and she took it. Molly barely had any lines in the film, killing Bella that way was FANTASTIC.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

So, in effect... other than Snape, we didn't actually see any real death's.

Lord Stafford.

jamar643 · July 2011

I don't understand how bellatrixs death scene sucked. She was more obliterated in my opinion. Not disintegrated.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Which made it even worse to me.

Lord Stafford.

Braveheart · July 2011

She turned into confetti. And there was a really weird sound effect to go with it. :-|

It may have been more effective if they hadn't rushed through it, took their time building it up.

Isaiah · July 2011

So, in effect... other than Snape, we didn't actually see any real death's.

Lord Stafford.

The movies and thee books are two diiferent things. If one death is going to bother you, why watch the movie?

[Deleted User] · July 2011

I think I'm totally alone when I say that I didn't mind Bella's death in the movie. For me, it was pretty cool. And as Loyal said, JK approved it. So.. I'm good with it too.

And people still complain about the Burrow sequence in HBP? I love that scene.

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