A Question for Those Who've Seen It

aaron · July 2011

If you had gone into the film without watching anything but the trailers (no featurettes, clips, spots, etc.) do you think you would've liked it more? A lot of the complaints seem to be no battle but maybe that's just because we'd seen it all beforehand. What do you think?

chester · July 2011

If you had gone into the film without watching anything but the trailers (no featurettes, clips, spots, etc.) do you think you would've liked it more? A lot of the complaints seem to be no battle but maybe that's just because we'd seen it all beforehand. What do you think?

Yes, then everything would be a surprise.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Even if it wasn't a pleasant surprise at what the battle has become, yes.

Lord Stafford.

Martin1 · July 2011

Even if it wasn't a pleasant surprise at what the battle has become, yes.

Lord Stafford.

Always the one with an upbeat attitude...

Lord_Darkeyes · July 2011

Yay! I havent watched all the clips.

This just proves that WB sucks at marketing.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

What? Not everything can be 'perfect' if you think so, then i'm having to feel sorry for you, because going about life that way is only making you angry and upset when something isn't the way you planned it to be!

Lord Stafford.

Martin1 · July 2011

What? Not everything can be 'perfect' if you think so, then i'm having to feel sorry for you, because going about life that way is only making you angry and upset when something isn't the way you planned it to be!

Lord Stafford.

I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, but you seem to be complaining about anything you can complain about.

Lord_Darkeyes · July 2011

Stafford, you have the most negative attitude I have ever met. People don't expect things to be perfect, but you suck EVERYONE'S excitment out with your comments.

blackvenom · July 2011

I hadn't watched the battle clips and I still found the battle incredibly short. It's 5 minutes tops. If you include Harry v. Voldemort, the Room of Requirement, the CoS scene and Voldemort destroying the protection, then the whole battle ends up being around 20 minutes long. But when it comes to pure battling, it's just 5 minutes long, I'm afraid.

decarus · July 2011

Can we please stop arguing? Please. One day left. Everyone try and contain themselves.

Lord_Darkeyes · July 2011

I hadn't watched the battle clips and I still found the battle incredibly short. It's 5 minutes tops. If you include Harry v. Voldemort, the Room of Requirement, the CoS scene and Voldemort destroying the protection, then the whole battle ends up being around 20 minutes long. But when it comes to pure battling, it's just 5 minutes long, I'm afraid.

Thats honestly fine with me now. I was dissapointed at first, but I've gotten used to it. I'm so excited for the V/H battle.

Martin1 · July 2011

I hadn't watched the battle clips and I still found the battle incredibly short. It's 5 minutes tops. If you include Harry v. Voldemort, the Room of Requirement, the CoS scene and Voldemort destroying the protection, then the whole battle ends up being around 20 minutes long. But when it comes to pure battling, it's just 5 minutes long, I'm afraid.

This fixes SO MUCH!

This whole time, I have been counting Harry vs Voldy, RoR, etc. I got so angry at people saying 'it's only 2 minutes' when the RoR scene itself is like 5!!!!

Overall, to me this sounds fine. I was never expecting a Battle of Pelanor fields in terms of scale. So, when they say 20 minutes or a half hour, that was correct.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Stafford, you have the most negative attitude I have ever met. People don't expect things to be perfect, but you suck EVERYONE'S excitment out with your comments.

You failed in you're opening sentence, by the way. That isn't me, and if it is... then they're weak. It is up to them if they want it to drain all they're excitement, it isn't my choice and it certainly isn't my intention.

Lord Stafford.

Mac · July 2011

Guys Those are few Person who were just not happy with the movie on the "forum" I say on the FORUM.....Iam reading a tons of Fb Post How they loved it..Whats the matter.......LOL...This is a forum..

Lord Stafford · July 2011

What? Not everything can be 'perfect' if you think so, then i'm having to feel sorry for you, because going about life that way is only making you angry and upset when something isn't the way you planned it to be!

Lord Stafford.
I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, but you seem to be complaining about anything you can complain about.

A common phrase for you, here: It is easier to think negatively than it is to think positively when you don't know the details. Remember that, would you? If you want to say that again!

Lord Stafford.

Mamoun · July 2011

Thankfully I haven't seen anything any full clips or anything more than the trailers and some spots, I found the battle really thrilling and not as short as people are saying it is, it's basically the background action for everything else. Which is expected as the characters are what matter; they focus on the reaction of the characters more than seeing masses of people attacking each other. I think it's a wise decision as it could easily get tedious to see people hitting each other with spells as always.

Lord_Darkeyes · July 2011

Stafford, you have the most negative attitude I have ever met. People don't expect things to be perfect, but you suck EVERYONE'S excitment out with your comments.
You failed in you're opening sentence, by the way. That isn't me, and if it is... then they're weak... it is up to them if they want it to drain all they're excitement, it isn't my choice and it certainly isn't my intention.

Lord Stafford.

You assume that the filmmakers will do so much.

I remember a thread created a while ago about a new scene in part 2, you were the first commenter and said "Yup, and will probably just end up being cut." After that, no one was excited for the scene. They were all freaking out about it being cut.

blackvenom · July 2011

I hadn't watched the battle clips and I still found the battle incredibly short. It's 5 minutes tops. If you include Harry v. Voldemort, the Room of Requirement, the CoS scene and Voldemort destroying the protection, then the whole battle ends up being around 20 minutes long. But when it comes to pure battling, it's just 5 minutes long, I'm afraid.
This fixes SO MUCH!

This whole time, I have been counting Harry vs Voldy, RoR, etc. I got so angry at people saying 'it's only 2 minutes' when the RoR scene itself is like 5!!!!

Overall, to me this sounds fine. I was never expecting a Battle of Pelanor fields in terms of scale. So, when they say 20 minutes or a half hour, that was correct.

Harry and Voldemort's battle is 8 minutes long, I think. Intercut with the Nagini chase and the tidbits in the Great Hall, of course.

You don't get the feel of a battle in the film. It's building up to it, but it never comes.
We follow Harry's POV and we get two brief shots of the battle before and after the Room of Requirement sequence. That was severely disappointing. They should have fleshed it out a bit. Show more people fighting, familiar faces. Show the destruction, the results of the siege. It didn't need more than 6-7 additional minutes. It would have been perfect.

Mamoun · July 2011

Blackvenom, I don't know but I think they have shown the destruction pretty well and have shown people fighting too with all kind of cool spells, it certainly seems like you guys have seen a lot of clips that spoiled everything for you.

Martin1 · July 2011

Blackvenom, I don't know but I think they have shown the destruction pretty well and have shown people fighting too with all kind of cool spells, it certainly seems like you guys have seen a lot of clips that spoiled everything for you.

I agree, I didn't watch any b-roll, battle clips, or the Harry vs Voldy featurette.

Lord Stafford · July 2011

Stafford, you have the most negative attitude I have ever met. People don't expect things to be perfect, but you suck EVERYONE'S excitment out with your comments.
You failed in you're opening sentence, by the way. That isn't me, and if it is... then they're weak... it is up to them if they want it to drain all they're excitement, it isn't my choice and it certainly isn't my intention.

Lord Stafford.

You assume that the filmmakers will do so much.

I remember a thread created a while ago about a new scene in part 2, you were the first commenter and said "Yup, and will probably just end up being cut." After that, no one was excited for the scene. They were all freaking out about it being cut.

That is their choice, and their choice alone.

Lord Stafford.

Jason · July 2011

If you had gone into the film without watching anything but the trailers (no featurettes, clips, spots, etc.) do you think you would've liked it more? A lot of the complaints seem to be no battle but maybe that's just because we'd seen it all beforehand. What do you think?

Yes.

Martin1 · July 2011

If you had gone into the film without watching anything but the trailers (no featurettes, clips, spots, etc.) do you think you would've liked it more? A lot of the complaints seem to be no battle but maybe that's just because we'd seen it all beforehand. What do you think?
Yes.

Well I'm good, though I saw some tv spots.

decarus · July 2011

I haven't seen the film yet, but i know for me it is better to see the everything ahead of time. I know how i felt after watching GoF and OotP the first time and pretty much thinking what was that. I felt much better about the last two films because i knew what was going to happen in them before i saw them.

blackvenom · July 2011

I hadn't watched the battle clips. Only the trailer and spots. It was still disappointing.

I have to say that the are beautifully composed though. The Courtyard Apocalypse battle sequence is breathtaking. Great camera work, great score, great visuals. Only 2 minutes and a half long, but, for what it was, it was stunning.

marspeach · July 2011

Yes, I would have liked it more with less hype. The clips and trailers and things show only the very best parts of the movie.

Mamoun · July 2011

Yes, I would have liked it more with less hype. The clips and trailers and things show only the very best parts of the movie.

Isn't the same thing can be said for every film out there?

Richard · July 2011

Can we please stop arguing? Please. One day left. Everyone try and contain themselves.

=D>

Lord_Darkeyes · July 2011

Guys, think of this.

In part 1, they pretty much released the enire climax of the film. (Malfoy Manor scene) However, in the movie, I didn't care. It was the exact same for me, whether I saw it or not.

chace483 · July 2011

I think i would have enojyed it the same. To be honest, you guys might have seen all the clips and trailers before I ever got a chance to but I still think you haven't seen ANYTHING yet. You haven't experienced the film in it's complete quality and experience...I mean, this is the concluding one so you'll love it anyway if you're a HP fan. The battle isn't disappointing becuase it plays out like it does in the book. The battle wasn't an exclusive scene in the book so i don't know why people are getting pissed, it's what you could have hoped for and the film is amazing and emotional and generally bitter sweet.

XDMorsmordreXD · July 2011

I think i would have enojyed it the same. To be honest, you guys might have seen all the clips and trailers before I ever got a chance to but I still think you haven't seen ANYTHING yet. You haven't experienced the film in it's complete quality and experience...I mean, this is the concluding one so you'll love it anyway if you're a HP fan. The battle isn't disappointing becuase it plays out like it does in the book. The battle wasn't an exclusive scene in the book so i don't know why people are getting pissed, it's what you could have hoped for and the film is amazing and emotional and generally bitter sweet.

Were there any clever montages?

TheEightHorcrux · July 2011

I think i would have enojyed it the same. To be honest, you guys might have seen all the clips and trailers before I ever got a chance to but I still think you haven't seen ANYTHING yet. You haven't experienced the film in it's complete quality and experience...I mean, this is the concluding one so you'll love it anyway if you're a HP fan. The battle isn't disappointing becuase it plays out like it does in the book. The battle wasn't an exclusive scene in the book so i don't know why people are getting pissed, it's what you could have hoped for and the film is amazing and emotional and generally bitter sweet.

Chace could how did Leaving Hogwarts fit in the epilogue? And did it give you goosebumps?

Braveheart · July 2011

Books and films are different mediums chace, with different requirements. "Just like the book" hasn't been a positive since COS.

chace483 · July 2011

But if they had an exclusive scene for the battle then that would of taken us away from HP's story and discovering what he needs to discover to conclude the story. The battle had to be a constant presence throughout the film in the background because it adds to the urgency that he needs to find these horcruxes quick and kill voldemort before everyone is killed. It builds tension and danger as we watch Harry run thorugh the chaos.

Martin1 · July 2011

Books and films are different mediums chace, with different requirements. "Just like the book" hasn't been a positive since COS.

Really?

Cave - Just like the book
Sky Battle - Just like the book, but better
From What I've heard, Gingrotts - Just like the book, but better
The 3 memories we got - Just like the book

I could go on and on.

Braveheart · July 2011

Right, so if you could confirm for me chace, while he's running through the chaos, is it shot in a way that is similar to the second BOH clip, with the trio having to run through the warground? As in, they are actually in the environment and fighting is clearly going on around them?

Anyway, it wouldn't have to be an exclusive scene. The Horcrux Hunt and battle could be married quite successfully.

Braveheart · July 2011

Books and films are different mediums chace, with different requirements. "Just like the book" hasn't been a positive since COS.
Really?

Cave - Just like the book
Sky Battle - Just like the book, but better
From What I've heard, Gingrotts - Just like the book, but better
The 3 memories we got - Just like the book

I could go on and on.

Just like the book but better? So you mean not like the book, ok then. The cave was not just like the book. The Inferi dragged Harry underwater, an embellishment on the terror of the scene. If it had been filmed just like the book it would have been much less successful.

Martin1 · July 2011

Books and films are different mediums chace, with different requirements. "Just like the book" hasn't been a positive since COS.
Really?

Cave - Just like the book
Sky Battle - Just like the book, but better
From What I've heard, Gingrotts - Just like the book, but better
The 3 memories we got - Just like the book

I could go on and on.

Just like the book but better? So you mean not like the book, ok then. The cave was not just like the book. The Inferi dragged Harry underwater, an embellishment on the terror of the scene. If it had been filmed just like the book it would have been much less successful.

Okay, now you're nitpicking. Him dragging him underwater is one of the smaller details, I'm talking about it on the whole scale.

Example: Third Maze book is different from Third Maze Movie
Cave is nearly the exact same as the book besides that like one tiny detail!

I was just countering your 'hasn't been a positive since CoS.'
If anything, it's been more than positive. SS and CoS are my least favorite (though I love them and consider SS a classic for the ages), and a problem is that they follow the book too much!

chace483 · July 2011

Right, so if you could confirm for me chace, while he's running through the chaos, is it shot in a way that is similar to the second BOH clip, with the trio having to run through the warground? As in, they are actually in the environment and fighting is clearly going on around them?

Anyway, it wouldn't have to be an exclusive scene. The Horcrux Hunt and battle could be married quite successfully.

Well, yeah...I guess it is like that pretty much. But, remember, there's the scene in the room of requirement which is a pretty big action scene, there's plenty of action scenes. The film just has a feeling of urgency and danger becuase of what is going on around them. It's not like LOTR where you have a five minute scene of some epic battle. They can do that becuase the main plots are taking place in several different places so they have time to spend with different characters. Whereas, in this film, everything is in the same place and Harry's amongst all of it. You're taken away from the battle quite alot becuase of everything that Harry and Voldemort etc are getting up to.

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