I do think it takes away from the story though. I thought it took away from the story in HBP and i think it takes away from it here to not show the kids duel. And i don't think it is the same thing to read that the kids duel in the background and then not show it in the film. I think that in one case it is showing it happen by telling us and in the other case it is not showing it. In the films they should show the dueling.
I totally agree that the film is about the character moments and they have seem to do okay with that. This is just something that is easily fixable by showing the known kids in the background dueling. Or not giving the adults their moments. But it is what it is.
Like the final confrontation. When they are showing Hermione, Luna, and Ginny duel Bellatrix in the great hall. That is showing that happen. That is not in the background. I am not saying that scene needs to be in the film. But i do think that showing a little bit of the kids doing something active to help Harry do what he's got to do would have made the film epic.
ok i have one tiny thing that bugs me. voldermnort dosent die by his curse backfiring on him. according to black harry and voldy stop dueling neville kills the snake and voldy falls over dead.
I hope this isn't true or else Neville would be the one to kill Voldy instead of Harry. Harry would just be a distraction
ok i have one tiny thing that bugs me. voldermnort dosent die by his curse backfiring on him. according to black harry and voldy stop dueling neville kills the snake and voldy falls over dead.
I hope this isn't true or else Neville would be the one to kill Voldy instead of Harry. Harry would just be a distraction
yea when blackwoven told me this i was like WTF!! :-?
ok i have one tiny thing that bugs me. voldermnort dosent die by his curse backfiring on him. according to black harry and voldy stop dueling neville kills the snake and voldy falls over dead.
I hope this isn't true or else Neville would be the one to kill Voldy instead of Harry. Harry would just be a distraction
1. Awful, as usual, comedy... and i know i haven't seen it yet, but i do tend to guess right. Also, the dialogue is awkward, they should have kept to the books great dialogue. 2. Changes being made and then they are cut, what's the point?! 3. Not everyone has to disintegrate, Yates, believe it or not. 4. They lied again, 'we didn't want a battle at the end of HBP because we feel it is too repetitive with what is going to happen in Part 2' really, look how that has panned out. 5. The opening. 6. It doesn't sound like what it used to sound like... in other words, a true epic. 7. Lack of Hagrid. 8. Neville and Luna, against canon. 9. This might just be me, but not only because of the lack of battling, i feel that it will lack an extra bit of bite... it could be the runtime. 10. The Potter's death flashback is done in a lazy way by using the PS one again. 11. Lack of Horcrux and DH explanations, and Dumbledore's backstory being tossed aside.
Bellatrix didn't say much and tonks has 5 seconds of screentime. Then the scene in the great hall was way to short but it was emotional. This are the only complaints i have.
Does Part 2 have the same type of pacing, as opposed to HBP and Part 1 having the same... as OOTP? It certainly seems like it! Well, then it must have the same attention to plot details. More effort and respect is put into the made up stuff rather than the books, what a shame.
Does Part 2 have the same type of pacing, as opposed to HBP and Part 1 having the same... as OOTP? It certainly seems like it! Well, then it must have the same attention to plot details. More effort and respect is put into the made up stuff rather than the books, what a shame.
Lord Stafford.
DH2 is very fast paced. It is a movie that you have to see multiple times.
1-hype.too much perhaps especially with raving reviews.so i believe some people went in with too much expectations.
2-tvspots.lots of people have seen like every tvspot out there which really must have dampened some of the emotions they would have had,had they seen it for the first time in theatres.
"At this point, one of the most disappointing elements of Part 2 rears its head -- the action. The final battle doesn't appear as grand as it could have been, as audiences will be inundated with the familiar effects shots of a hoard of soldiers running at a castle and a lot of unimpressive effects shots used to showcase the 3D (which isn't worth it). Even seeing Hogwarts get destroyed is rendered emotionless because Yates chooses to barely focus on the destruction of Hogwarts, instead opting for slow-mo shots of seemingly random wizards and witches doing battle. Hogwarts is a symbol of hope, childlike wonder, and maturation.
Not allowing the characters to experience this collapse cheapens the entire moment. It isn't just for the characters to feel either, showing the audience the collapse of Hogwarts and letting the catharsis occur for those who have viewed the franchise from start to finish, and grown up with it themselves. Instead the battle feels stilted, stiff, and even a bit of a snore-fest."
"I walked out of the cinema in absolute shock. They killed the magic of Harry Potter for me. I looked around as I got up to leave and could see many faces looking puzzled and as equally disappointed.
There was not an iota of charm, wit, magic in this entire 2hr snooze-fest. I'm still shocked. One person even yelled out as the credits popped up something along the lines of "WTF was this rubbish!? Where is the REAL finale!?" and many people laughed and cheered him..."
Q: Were there any extra scenes that were cut for time that might end up on the DVD? Yates: Yeah, we've got a whole bunch of DVD extra scenes, which I took out of the movie. We never ever say, "Oh, it's going to be 3 hours or 2 1⁄2 hours or 90 minutes." It's whatever feels right when you watch the film in the dark. Ultimately that's what determines the length of the film. This film felt the right weight and the right shape and the right rhythm at two hours, but we saved all the bits we cut out, and we're going to put that on the DVD extras.
"Harry does not repair his old wand with the Elder Wand, instead he simply keeps Draco’s old wand, snaps the Elder wand in half and throws it off a cliff."
I do not like this at all.
Same here. It's probably my biggest complaint. He should have repaired his wand ):<
2-tvspots.lots of people have seen like every tvspot out there which really must have dampened some of the emotions they would have had,had they seen it for the first time in theatres.
3-ofcourse purists.
Agree with these two. Especially the purists. I have seen so much "THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN!" comments that is has gotten so BAD!
Ugh. You think after 7 films they would know by now that the book is not going to play out page by page on the screen.
"Harry does not repair his old wand with the Elder Wand, instead he simply keeps Draco’s old wand, snaps the Elder wand in half and throws it off a cliff."
I do not like this at all.
Same here. It's probably my biggest complaint. He should have repaired his wand ):<
It's not because it isn't shown, that he never restored his old wand.
"Harry does not repair his old wand with the Elder Wand, instead he simply keeps Draco’s old wand, snaps the Elder wand in half and throws it off a cliff."
I do not like this at all.
We knew this ages ago, and yes, like alot of things... it is disappointing and underwhelming. All i will say is that it is NOT the proper finale that we had all been hoping and waiting for, it was hyped up to be and that is what vastly increased our expectations, but it is what it is and unfortunately we have to deal with it as being so. I genuinely don't think Yates will be able to cut it as a 'big leagues' director, he just seems a little off par.
Love you J.K Rowling! Your books inspired me to read and you rock! Can't wait for Pottermore. Yates- f''k you!
Id like to see you do it better.. would probably be a disaster if you did it
Oscar: >
And morse, its not Yate's OR Kloves's fault. Kloves wrote all the scenes. Yates directed all the scenes. Only to be taken out by the producers or editor.
For me it's not that big of a problem. Harry can just buy a new one.
It's not that simple, it is a powerful moment in the book and it could, should and would have been an emotional moment in the film. Not everything can be just tossed aside, though you seem all for it 'Harry can just buy a new one' exactly... no respect for the material, whatsoever.
How do you know if you haven't seen the movie? Quit going by others and wait till you use your eyes. Have you seen the rewatch factor opinions of it. People loved it the second time. LOVED IT. They couldn't keep up with it the first time. Many people here complaining about the BOH haven't seen it a second time. Or a first time.
They'd have to be pretty thick to confuse 2 minutes for 20, don't you think?!
I know that, i've read the book... not that that matters, as true adaptations are hard to come by nowadays, but anyway. A new word? I'm 'bitching' this time, apparently! Well, it is Yates duty to show us more than he obviously has done, and especially after what he said about HBP... not that he'll ever provide, but still.
"At this point, one of the most disappointing elements of Part 2 rears its head -- the action. The final battle doesn't appear as grand as it could have been, as audiences will be inundated with the familiar effects shots of a hoard of soldiers running at a castle and a lot of unimpressive effects shots used to showcase the 3D (which isn't worth it). Even seeing Hogwarts get destroyed is rendered emotionless because Yates chooses to barely focus on the destruction of Hogwarts, instead opting for slow-mo shots of seemingly random wizards and witches doing battle. Hogwarts is a symbol of hope, childlike wonder, and maturation.
Not allowing the characters to experience this collapse cheapens the entire moment. It isn't just for the characters to feel either, showing the audience the collapse of Hogwarts and letting the catharsis occur for those who have viewed the franchise from start to finish, and grown up with it themselves. Instead the battle feels stilted, stiff, and even a bit of a snore-fest."
"I walked out of the cinema in absolute shock. They killed the magic of Harry Potter for me. I looked around as I got up to leave and could see many faces looking puzzled and as equally disappointed.
There was not an iota of charm, wit, magic in this entire 2hr snooze-fest. I'm still shocked. One person even yelled out as the credits popped up something along the lines of "WTF was this rubbish!? Where is the REAL finale!?" and many people laughed and cheered him..."
For me it's not that big of a problem. Harry can just buy a new one.
It's not that simple, it is a powerful moment in the book and it could, should and would have been an emotional moment in the film.
Lord Stafford.
I agree.
I really wish they had put it in.
I know.... I mean, even if it was a short scene or something.. Not that hard to add. And I don't see how it "wouldn't fit" or whatever. This is the only thing that bothers me for the film.
Yes, i am different to them. You know, and hell... so does everyone else here. I don't ramble on about crap, at least if i do ever have a differing view from you guys, i express myself clearly without talking complete and utter gobble and i often justify myself. I'm not one to just go ahead and talk random trash, you know me better than that, and i haven't even met you.
"Harry does not repair his old wand with the Elder Wand, instead he simply keeps Draco’s old wand, snaps the Elder wand in half and throws it off a cliff."
I do not like this at all.
We knew this ages ago, and yes, like alot of things... it is disappointing and underwhelming. All i will say is that it is NOT the proper finale that we had all been hoping and waiting for, it was hyped up to be and that is what vastly increased our expectations, but it is what it is and unfortunately we have to deal with it as being so. I genuinely don't think Yates will be able to cut it as a 'big leagues' director, he just seems a little off par.
Lord Stafford.
Are you kidding me?! The fact he doesn't fix his wand doesn't make or break the movie or Yate's career! How little you know about film...
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I totally agree that the film is about the character moments and they have seem to do okay with that. This is just something that is easily fixable by showing the known kids in the background dueling. Or not giving the adults their moments. But it is what it is.
2. Changes being made and then they are cut, what's the point?!
3. Not everyone has to disintegrate, Yates, believe it or not.
4. They lied again, 'we didn't want a battle at the end of HBP because we feel it is too repetitive with what is going to happen in Part 2' really, look how that has panned out.
5. The opening.
6. It doesn't sound like what it used to sound like... in other words, a true epic.
7. Lack of Hagrid.
8. Neville and Luna, against canon.
9. This might just be me, but not only because of the lack of battling, i feel that it will lack an extra bit of bite... it could be the runtime.
10. The Potter's death flashback is done in a lazy way by using the PS one again.
11. Lack of Horcrux and DH explanations, and Dumbledore's backstory being tossed aside.
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
Lord Stafford.
2-tvspots.lots of people have seen like every tvspot out there which really must have dampened some of the emotions they would have had,had they seen it for the first time in theatres.
3-ofcourse purists.
Mysterious thing time.
"At this point, one of the most disappointing elements of Part 2 rears its head -- the action. The final battle doesn't appear as grand as it could have been, as audiences will be inundated with the familiar effects shots of a hoard of soldiers running at a castle and a lot of unimpressive effects shots used to showcase the 3D (which isn't worth it). Even seeing Hogwarts get destroyed is rendered emotionless because Yates chooses to barely focus on the destruction of Hogwarts, instead opting for slow-mo shots of seemingly random wizards and witches doing battle. Hogwarts is a symbol of hope, childlike wonder, and maturation.
Not allowing the characters to experience this collapse cheapens the entire moment. It isn't just for the characters to feel either, showing the audience the collapse of Hogwarts and letting the catharsis occur for those who have viewed the franchise from start to finish, and grown up with it themselves. Instead the battle feels stilted, stiff, and even a bit of a snore-fest."
"I walked out of the cinema in absolute shock. They killed the magic of Harry Potter for me. I looked around as I got up to leave and could see many faces looking puzzled and as equally disappointed.
There was not an iota of charm, wit, magic in this entire 2hr snooze-fest. I'm still shocked. One person even yelled out as the credits popped up something along the lines of "WTF was this rubbish!? Where is the REAL finale!?" and many people laughed and cheered him..."
Love you J.K Rowling! Your books inspired me to read and you rock!
Can't wait for Pottermore.
Yates- f''k you!
Mysterious thing time.
And Morse, same.
Yates: Yeah, we've got a whole bunch of DVD extra scenes, which I took out of the movie. We never ever say, "Oh, it's going to be 3 hours or 2 1⁄2 hours or 90 minutes." It's whatever feels right when you watch the film in the dark. Ultimately that's what determines the length of the film. This film felt the right weight and the right shape and the right rhythm at two hours, but we saved all the bits we cut out, and we're going to put that on the DVD extras.
:-((
Mysterious thing time.
Lord Stafford.
Id like to see you do it better.. would probably be a disaster if you did it
P.S 7,000TH COMMENT!!
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Can't wait for Pottermore.
Yates- f''k you!
Id like to see you do it better.. would probably be a disaster if you did it
Oscar:
And morse, its not Yate's OR Kloves's fault. Kloves wrote all the scenes. Yates directed all the scenes. Only to be taken out by the producers or editor.
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I really wish they had put it in.
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