My view is, well will not see much battling at all. Maybe 30/40 seconds as the battle begins. And then 20 seconds here and there as the trio make their way to various locations. 1 minute Courtyard Apocalypse battle as the trio venture to the house of boats, involving Hermione attempting to save Lavvy B. And then of course the second half in the courtyard where we'll see another 30 seconds of battle, and then it'll focus primarily on Harry and Voldemort, cutting to another 30 seconds or so of battle where we see Molly kill Bellatrix, and a bit of background duelling in the GH. I could be wrong, but this is how I picture it. Besides, it isn't the length I am worried about, the footage we have seen so far of the Battle is very poor.
My view is, well will not see much battling at all. Maybe 30/40 seconds as the battle begins. And then 20 seconds here and there as the trio make their way to various locations. 1 minute Courtyard Apocalypse battle as the trio venture to the house of boats, involving Hermione attempting to save Lavvy B. And then of course the second half in the courtyard where we'll see another 30 seconds of battle, and then it'll focus primarily on Harry and Voldemort, cutting to another 30 seconds or so of battle where we see Molly kill Bellatrix, and a bit of background duelling in the GH. I could be wrong, but this is how I picture it. Besides, it isn't the length I am worried about, the footage we have seen so far of the Battle is very poor.
My view is, well will not see much battling at all. Maybe 30/40 seconds as the battle begins. And then 20 seconds here and there as the trio make their way to various locations. 1 minute Courtyard Apocalypse battle as the trio venture to the house of boats, involving Hermione attempting to save Lavvy B. And then of course the second half in the courtyard where we'll see another 30 seconds of battle, and then it'll focus primarily on Harry and Voldemort, cutting to another 30 seconds or so of battle where we see Molly kill Bellatrix, and a bit of background duelling in the GH. I could be wrong, but this is how I picture it. Besides, it isn't the length I am worried about, the footage we have seen so far of the Battle is very poor.
I think we'll get just as much battling on screen as was mentioned in the book which is not a bad amount in context. Seeing what harry, Ron, and Hermione do is more important anyway.
As far as the quality thats going to be different for everyone but I don't have the same worry.
not really because we have seen NOTHING of the battle that happens in the great hall with molly and bellatrix
Actually i think i have seen all of that bit in the great hall. With the b-roll and some other featurette. I can't keep it all straight, but i think we have seen it.
not really because we have seen NOTHING of the battle that happens in the great hall with molly and bellatrix
Actually i think i have seen all of that bit in the great hall. With the b-roll and some other featurette. I can't keep it all straight, but i think we have seen it.
Well, I guess I havent watched the B Rolls so that might make a little bit of a difference. Either way it has not been seen by any of us, save one, in full context and at this point I am not worried.
You know what guys, I think I'm worried about the Battle as well!
The battle is going to suck! I mean, c'mon, NO BATTLING DESKS!??! That was the heart and soul of the book, even though I didn't notice it till my third reading of it. And Dumbledore's backstory was way more important than the horcruxes or the hallows, and the fact it's not included in its entirety makes me think the whole thing will suck.
And despite every review praising Eduardo's work, I think it's terrible and just weird looking. Even though I haven't seen it nor have I watched the clips, I know it's just going to be so rushed given the two hour run time! Also, despite the reviews mentioning bloody sequences and Lavender getting her necked torn, there's not enough action or intense moments.
Overall, even though I've seen about 5 minutes in the film from trailers, tv spots, and the very few clips I've seen, I just know I'm going to be disappointed.
My view is, well will not see much battling at all. Maybe 30/40 seconds as the battle begins. And then 20 seconds here and there as the trio make their way to various locations. 1 minute Courtyard Apocalypse battle as the trio venture to the house of boats, involving Hermione attempting to save Lavvy B. And then of course the second half in the courtyard where we'll see another 30 seconds of battle, and then it'll focus primarily on Harry and Voldemort, cutting to another 30 seconds or so of battle where we see Molly kill Bellatrix, and a bit of background duelling in the GH. I could be wrong, but this is how I picture it. Besides, it isn't the length I am worried about, the footage we have seen so far of the Battle is very poor.
So your guess is that the battle is going to be 3 minutes long?
Not at all, Mamoun, especially with Shell Cottage, Gringotts, Hogsmeade and I, DA, Great Hall confrontations, Gray Lady, Room of Requirement, Chamber of Secrets/Burning Bridges, Snape's death, The Prince's Tale, the Resurrection Stone, Forest, King's Cross and Epilogue. Those will surely take up a good chunk of that two hours.
Not at all, Mamoun, especially with Shell Cottage, Gringotts, Hogsmeade and I, DA, Great Hall confrontations, Gray Lady, Room of Requirement, Chamber of Secrets/Burning Bridges, Snape's death, The Prince's Tale, the Resurrection Stone, Forest, King's Cross and Epilogue. Those will surely take up a good chunk of that two hours.
Do you realise that even the length of both "Battlefield" and "Courtyard apocalypse" tracks is longer than your 3 minutes guess? and that is assuming that there is no battle scenes with no background music.
I can't believe it's taken me this long to mention actually when it's one of my main gripes with the battle. The decision to remove Fred's death from the onscreen action has to be one of the weirdest decisions they have ever made. I mean, weren't they talking about making it as emotional as possible...but this makes it less impactful. It also takes away from Rowling's message about the suddeness and how unexpected death can be.
And Dumbledore's backstory was way more important than the horcruxes or the hallows, and the fact it's not included in its entirety makes me think the whole thing will suck.
I never said that. I wanted to use DD's backstory to develop the main character and add to the story. DH part 1, however well-made and rich in plot, told no story IMO. It felt as if Yates followed a checklist of plot events that he wanted to put in the film. Consequently, it feels episodic and there is no story to bind it all together.
I can't believe it's taken me this long to mention actually when it's one of my main gripes with the battle. The decision to remove Fred's death from the onscreen action has to be one of the weirdest decisions they have ever made. I mean, weren't they talking about making it as emotional as possible...but this makes it less impactful. It also takes away from Rowling's message about the suddeness and how unexpected death can be.
I don't think it'll take away from it at all. If they show the actions leading up to it and cut away and we don't see him until he is dead that could have a great impact. Showing death directly isn't the only way of making it emotionally heavy.
Oh do they show leading up to it? Well that's something at least, I thought he just turned up dead. Still, I would have preferred at least one major death from the battle to be shown. That way they could get a proper Saving Private Ryan thing going, with Fred just dying so suddenly, being alive one second and dead the next. I guess it's probably Heyman's hand at work again, he seems kind of averse to showing too many deaths too close together, always reigning Yates in. I am very suspicious of the end of Part 1 because of Heyman's meddling, in the sense of how many deaths were cut there.
EDIT - I heard we don't even see a closup of Fred's body though, which is kind of stupid. People will be wondering what Weasley is dead if we don't see his face.
I like how we first see Tonks and Lupin reaching out for one another, and then the next time we see them they are lying dead on the floor with their hands outstretched.
Oh do they show leading up to it? Well that's something at least, I thought he just turned up dead. Still, I would have preferred at least one major death from the battle to be shown.
I mean, weren't they talking about making it as emotional as possible...but this makes it less impactful. It also takes away from Rowling's message about the suddeness and how unexpected death can be.
Oh do they show leading up to it? Well that's something at least, I thought he just turned up dead. Still, I would have preferred at least one major death from the battle to be shown. That way they could get a proper Saving Private Ryan thing going, with Fred just dying so suddenly, being alive one second and dead the next. I guess it's probably Heyman's hand at work again, he seems kind of averse to showing too many deaths too close together, always reigning Yates in. I am very suspicious of the end of Part 1 because of Heyman's meddling, in the sense of how many deaths were cut there.
EDIT - I heard we don't even see a closup of Fred's body though, which is kind of stupid. People will be wondering what Weasley is dead if we don't see his face.
I think it is in one of the clips floating around.
The difference is that this is magic and not bullets. It may not have the same impact that kind of a death would have. It could be done to come close but how many people can related to being hit by the killing curse?
I think they'll be plenty of emotional weight behind all of the deaths they show.
I mean, weren't they talking about making it as emotional as possible...but this makes it less impactful. It also takes away from Rowling's message about the suddeness and how unexpected death can be.
Sirius' death perfectly communicates that.
Hedwig and Dobby as well to a lesser extent but still.
Well then isn't it nonsensical to effectively LOWER the weight and impact of death for the climax of the entire series? And I don't count Snape as a "battle" death, and Lavender is not exactly major character either, plus she's already dead when she's seen. Also, should have clarified, I meant good people only here when I'm talking about deaths. They are the ones whose deaths create the sense of loss, not those of the antagonists.
And Fred was killed by an explosion, not a spell. That's pretty impactful, though I imagine to intense for delicate little Heyman.
Well then isn't it nonsensical to effectively LOWER the weight and impact of death for the climax of the entire series? And I don't count Snape as a "battle" death, and Lavender is not exactly major character either, plus she's already dead when she's seen. Also, should have clarified, I meant good people only here when I'm talking about deaths. They are the ones whose deaths create the sense of loss, not those of the antagonists.
And Fred was killed by an explosion, not a spell. That's pretty impactful, though I imagine to intense for delicate little Heyman.
Snape is still an important death and it will have a huge impact on the audience. I am also not sure Fred dies via explosion in the film. I think he gets disarmed and then it cuts away. Someone correct me if I am remembering wrong.
Seeing the bodies of people and not the actual death will still be very powerful. Thats where cinematography and music have a big impact. I don't think they need to show people dying for their deaths to carry weight.
No they won't. One of the twins has two ears and the other doesn't. That is the only difference between them, so, it's pretty obvious how are we going to find out which is which, don't you think?
No they don't have to show them all dying, but they should mix it up a little instead of just showing everyone who dies on the floor and not their actual death scenes. A mixture like the book would be preferable.
No they won't. One of the twins has two ears and the other doesn't. That is the only difference between them, so, it's pretty obvious how are we going to find out which is which, don't you think?
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But one of the reviews said there's no closeup of him, and all you can see in the shot we've seen is ginger hair. I hope someone at least shouts his name.
No they won't. One of the twins has two ears and the other doesn't. That is the only difference between them, so, it's pretty obvious how are we going to find out which is which, don't you think?
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But one of the reviews said there's no closeup of him, and all you can see in the shot we've seen is ginger hair. I hope someone at least shouts his name.
They'll make sure we know who it is.
No they don't have to show them all dying, but they should mix it up a little instead of just showing everyone who dies on the floor and not their actual death scenes. A mixture like the book would be preferable.
I am really fine either way. I dont think that showing a death is always the best way to get the idea across. Thats just me.
I mean, weren't they talking about making it as emotional as possible...but this makes it less impactful. It also takes away from Rowling's message about the suddeness and how unexpected death can be.
Sirius' death perfectly communicates that.
Hedwig and Dobby as well to a lesser extent but still.
I mean, weren't they talking about making it as emotional as possible...but this makes it less impactful. It also takes away from Rowling's message about the suddeness and how unexpected death can be.
Sirius' death perfectly communicates that.
Hedwig and Dobby as well to a lesser extent but still.
Yeah, and Cedric's as well.
Good point. Dumbledore, even though the death wasn't necessarily unexpected the killer was, at least, for anyone in the story.
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As far as the quality thats going to be different for everyone but I don't have the same worry.
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EDIT - I heard we don't even see a closup of Fred's body though, which is kind of stupid. People will be wondering what Weasley is dead if we don't see his face.
The difference is that this is magic and not bullets. It may not have the same impact that kind of a death would have. It could be done to come close but how many people can related to being hit by the killing curse?
I think they'll be plenty of emotional weight behind all of the deaths they show.
And Fred was killed by an explosion, not a spell. That's pretty impactful, though I imagine to intense for delicate little Heyman.
Seeing the bodies of people and not the actual death will still be very powerful. Thats where cinematography and music have a big impact. I don't think they need to show people dying for their deaths to carry weight.
No they won't. One of the twins has two ears and the other doesn't. That is the only difference between them, so, it's pretty obvious how are we going to find out which is which, don't you think?
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1. “Lily's Theme” - 02:28
2. “The Tunnel” - 01:09
3. “Underworld” - 05:24
4. “Gringotts” - 02:24
5. “Dragon Flight” - 01:43
6. “Neville” - 01:40
7. “A New Headmaster” - 03:25
8. “Panic Inside Hogwarts” - 01:53
9. “Statues” - 02:22
10. “The Grey Lady” - 05:51
11. “In the Chamber of Secrets” - 01:37
12. “Battlefield” - 02:13
13. “The Diadem” - 03:08
14. “Broomsticks and Fire” - 01:24
15. “Courtyard Apocalypse” - 02:00
16. “Snape’s Demise” - 02:51
17. “Severus and Lily” - 06:08
18. “Harry’s Sacrifice” - 01:57
19. “The Resurrection Stone” - 04:32
20. “Harry Surrenders” - 01:30
21. “Procession” - 02:07
22. “Neville the Hero” - 02:17
23. “Showdown” - 03:37
24. “Voldemort’s End” - 02:44
25. “A New Beginning” - 01:39
Wrong thread, lol. And Old info.
Thanks for posting though :-)