Oh god, the first one said the epilogue is dreadful. The reshoots were a greenscreen kings cross right? I hope it's not obvious...I don't mind it being short, I just want it to be good. I'll settle for an okay epilogue. I'm just sort of worried now.
He's the first to complain about the Epilogue out of every review. Don't worry.
Nah, he's not the first. A number of others said things like it's too brief and different in tone to the rest of the film. I remember there was one mention of "sentimental". But many others liked it, said that it improves on the book's version, and commented positively on the fact that it brings the story full circle in a subtle way. I wouldn't worry.
My guess is that everyone is going to like the Epilogue in the movie as much as they liked the Epilogue in the book. If you didn't like it in the book, there's no reason to think you'll like it in the movie. I personally am sure I'm going to love it.
If there's one thing I'm disappointed about (and it's probably never been just one thing with the past movies) it's the reaction to the King's Cross limbo scene. That, with the whole Dumbledore and the Deathly Hallows story ("You were the better man Harry") seems to have been given shortdrift. I loved this storyline. I remember there was a slightly negative comment about the scene somewhere in the reviews. Now I just read another blatantly negative one:
"(...) while it's undeniably and consistently entertaining, it's not perfect. Harry's 'white room' encounter with Dumbledore is overstocked with purposefully ambiguous (and still insensible) cod-waffle philosophy"
If there's one thing I'm disappointed about (and it's probably never been just one thing with the past movies) it's the reaction to the King's Cross limbo scene. That, with the whole Dumbledore and the Deathly Hallows story ("You were the better man Harry") seems to have been given shortdrift. I loved this storyline. I remember there was a slightly negative comment about the scene somewhere in the reviews. Now I just read another blatantly negative one:
"(...) while it's undeniably and consistently entertaining, it's not perfect. Harry's 'white room' encounter with Dumbledore is overstocked with purposefully ambiguous (and still insensible) cod-waffle philosophy"
Are they daft ? I mean really, are they that dim that they do not recognize that Harry is hovering between life and death?
Cod-waffle philosophy ? Really ? Were they listening to or following the story at all, or were they just looking at CGI effects ?
A lot of reviews mentioned that the Limbo sequence is quite beautiful and a highlight, but yes. There have been two or three which thought that the scene slowed the pace of the film (wtf?).
A review mentioned that there is some interesting existentialism in this sequence and this is true, compared to the book chapter.
I don't get what's wrong though. Harry is between life and death and the philosophical discussion is verbatim to the book one. It's supposed to be abstract and 'insensible', it's something ethereal and surreal that exceeds the limits of logic and senses. I love the chapter-although it's shorter in the film, which is good IMO-because it feels so different and brings something different to the entire series.
The Mirror review is from the same critic who wrote the Screendaily review. It's just a different version of the same thing, but this time there's a rating. Henrick, I think you should just update the Screendaily one with a 5/5 rating. Unfortunately, I doubt this rating will be counted on RT. I've just checked Mark Adam's RT page and it seems like they've only been adding his Screendaily unrated reviews lately
This isn't an " official " review, just an excerpt from an article from guardian.co.uk , but I loved what she had to say:
" When, after two hours, the film comes to an end, there is deafening applause and a standing ovation. And, amid the praise and plaudits, there is also the inevitable melancholy that comes with witnessing what will be, for many, the end of an era. "
Are they daft ? I mean really, are they that dim that they do not recognize that Harry is hovering between life and death?
Cod-waffle philosophy ? Really ? Were they listening to or following the story at all, or were they just looking at CGI effects ?
Well you haven't seen the scene yet so you can't tell how it's handled. I love the book chapter but I have doubts about the screen version as people don't seem to have responded positively to it. At best, it appears not to have registered with most critics, as they didn't mention it at all, even though it's supposed to be a crucial scene.
A lot of reviews mentioned that the Limbo sequence is quite beautiful and a highlight
I've read all reviews and I don't remember that. I don't remember it being mentioned at all, except as description. Do you remember, by any chance, which reviews said that??
A lot of reviews mentioned that the Limbo sequence is quite beautiful and a highlight
I've read all reviews and I don't remember that. I don't remember it being mentioned at all, except as description. Do you remember, by any chance, which reviews said that??
If there's one thing I'm disappointed about (and it's probably never been just one thing with the past movies) it's the reaction to the King's Cross limbo scene. That, with the whole Dumbledore and the Deathly Hallows story ("You were the better man Harry") seems to have been given shortdrift. I loved this storyline. I remember there was a slightly negative comment about the scene somewhere in the reviews. Now I just read another blatantly negative one:
"(...) while it's undeniably and consistently entertaining, it's not perfect. Harry's 'white room' encounter with Dumbledore is overstocked with purposefully ambiguous (and still insensible) cod-waffle philosophy"
dont mind this
the problem with this scene is another thing, its the religious reference
Are they daft ? I mean really, are they that dim that they do not recognize that Harry is hovering between life and death?
Cod-waffle philosophy ? Really ? Were they listening to or following the story at all, or were they just looking at CGI effects ?
Well you haven't seen the scene yet so you can't tell how it's handled. I love the book chapter but I have doubts about the screen version as people don't seem to have responded positively to it. At best, it appears not to have registered with most critics, as they didn't mention it at all, even though it's supposed to be a crucial scene.
Actually, the reason I thought most critics haven't mentioned it was because they were trying not to give away a pivotal scene. I just didn't think that it would not make sense to anyone. Somehow, I cannot see Yates not managing to get that across.
I realize there was an enormous amount of information in that chapter and I always worried a bit how that would translate to screen. But they all mention embryonic Voldemort , so I had rather thought they were just leaving the touching scenes between Harry and Dumbledore for the viewer to experience for themselves. Everyone except this one reviewer seems to have " got it.". Do you know what I mean ?
"This mighty franchise goes out with a magnificent flourish that not only validates all the long hours we’ve spent watching it, but more than fulfils that most definitive of showbiz maxims. Leave them wanting more. "
A lot of reviews mentioned that the Limbo sequence is quite beautiful and a highlight
I've read all reviews and I don't remember that. I don't remember it being mentioned at all, except as description. Do you remember, by any chance, which reviews said that??
I don't remember right now, but there was definitely mention of the scene. I think that the whole religious/existential content will be slightly controversial, by the way. I expect hardcore Christians, once they see the film, to find another reason to bash the series.
A lot of reviews mentioned that the Limbo sequence is quite beautiful and a highlight
I've read all reviews and I don't remember that. I don't remember it being mentioned at all, except as description. Do you remember, by any chance, which reviews said that??
I don't remember right now, but there was definitely mention of the scene. I think that the whole religious/existential content will be slightly controversial, by the way. I expect hardcore Christians, once they see the film, to find another reason to bash the series.
If you define a christian as someone who has gave their life to Jesus Christ, then I'm as hardcore a christian as anybody on this planet. And I think this film should give churches a reason to ENDORSE harry potter at last, instead of falsely accusing it of wrongs like they have been doing...
"If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."
Oh, yes, but christian will be very silly if they do not value deeply the work of Rowling. In fact, Jo is a christian. Her ideas are clearly exposed in her books, especially in the last one.
And this film is about love, eternal love, and redemption. When you finish to read the last book you do not want a wand, you want to meet Harry, Hermione, Ron and all these amazing characters that fight for love.
A lot of reviews mentioned that the Limbo sequence is quite beautiful and a highlight
I've read all reviews and I don't remember that. I don't remember it being mentioned at all, except as description. Do you remember, by any chance, which reviews said that??
I too think there's some pretty heavy Christian symbolism in the Harry Potter series, but hey I'm Christian so perhaps I'm just seeing it as I want to...
there is
and its funny because Christians went against Harry Potter for so long
"It's brilliantly paced. It's full of emotion as well as action. There are no Transformers in it.
And at one point it had me mouthing: "Good grief. This is the British Star Wars."
A bit of an overreaction, if I'm honest. Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows - Part Two is not the British Star Wars.
But the fact that its best bits stand direct comparison to the best moments of that, The Lord Of The Rings and the Indiana Jones trilogies, shows the scale of the achievement of director David Yates, screenwriter Steve Kloves, the across-the- board ace cast and the ridiculously talented crew.
My one warning would be to skip the 3D version. The conversion job's not great and you don't need to be distracted after the emotional Snape flashback by Harry's hair and glasses "looking a bit wrong".
This isn't just a magnificent send-off to the series. It's a high watermark in British filmmaking that should satisfy the Potter nuts and - just as importantly - everyone else too.
And that's something to which we should all raise a glass.
Apart from Daniel Radcliffe, obviously."
That last quip, imo, was unnessary. Besides, anyone knows that you don't have to have alcohol in a glass to make a toast.
Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive.
Someone made a comment about X-Men First Class also having 100% for a while, this was like for about 17-20 reviews, so we are right there with them. Hopefully given the finale factor, we can end above their 86%.
I'm from New York...I was looking at the different Potter movies and MOST of the New York critics always gave Rotten reviews. You don't know how disappointing it is for me to see it...NEW YORK CRITICS BETTER NOT BRING DH2 DOWN OR I'LL TRACK EM DOWN AND GO LUPIN ON THEIR ASS (TURN INTO A WEREWOLF)
~I have NOT read the Potter books, only watched the movies FYI.
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Jason, you're probably right! I'm anxious about the rest of the reviews.
by the time that the epilogue is on, we will be crying so hard that we will not even be able to see the CGI scenary lmao
I didn't like the Epilogue as well, but what can they do?
It's said that they've cut the children's lines and it focuses on the Trio (mostly Harry).
46 POSITIVES! 46! :DD
http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2011/07/09/harry_potter_and_the_deathly_hallows_part_2/
Aha, so they use CGI to make Rickman look younger in Prince's tale. Interesting.
Yeap, it's highly positive.
http://alone-in-the-dark-pg.blogspot.com/
http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2011/07/09/harry_potter_and_the_deathly_hallows_part_2/
The latter is an RT critic. Man, I'm so happy! If this goes on, we're looking at a very real Best Picture nomination!
"(...) while it's undeniably and consistently entertaining, it's not perfect. Harry's 'white room' encounter with Dumbledore is overstocked with purposefully ambiguous (and still insensible) cod-waffle philosophy"
Cod-waffle philosophy ? Really ? Were they listening to or following the story at all, or were they just looking at CGI effects ?
http://mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23259907
A review mentioned that there is some interesting existentialism in this sequence and this is true, compared to the book chapter.
I don't get what's wrong though. Harry is between life and death and the philosophical discussion is verbatim to the book one. It's supposed to be abstract and 'insensible', it's something ethereal and surreal that exceeds the limits of logic and senses. I love the chapter-although it's shorter in the film, which is good IMO-because it feels so different and brings something different to the entire series.
" When, after two hours, the film comes to an end, there is deafening applause and a standing ovation. And, amid the praise and plaudits, there is also the inevitable melancholy that comes with witnessing what will be, for many, the end of an era. "
Mysterious thing time.
the problem with this scene is another thing, its the religious reference
I realize there was an enormous amount of information in that chapter and I always worried a bit how that would translate to screen. But they all mention embryonic Voldemort , so I had rather thought they were just leaving the touching scenes between Harry and Dumbledore for the viewer to experience for themselves. Everyone except this one reviewer seems to have " got it.". Do you know what I mean ?
loooove
I think that the whole religious/existential content will be slightly controversial, by the way. I expect hardcore Christians, once they see the film, to find another reason to bash the series.
And this film is about love, eternal love, and redemption. When you finish to read the last book you do not want a wand, you want to meet Harry, Hermione, Ron and all these amazing characters that fight for love.
but i think that the most spiritual part with dumbledore will make some ppl complain
but dont forget, UK is full of atheists like me, some might criticize the clear philosophy push
and its funny because Christians went against Harry Potter for so long
New review? 4.5/5
its a 5/5 xD
Now, we have 50 POSITIVES!!!
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~I have NOT read the Potter books, only watched the movies FYI.
~I have NOT read the Potter books, only watched the movies FYI.