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  • HinkypunkHinkypunk Posts: 385
    edited July 2011
    The decision for a lack of score here was brilliant . It brings home the sounds of battle. Now I see exactly why it is being compared to LOTR . They say Helms Deep because of the coloring,setting and it is night. Yet, it reminds me much much more of Pelennor Fields. There was little scoring during the mumakil battles.

    Yates has done beautifully here. It has it all.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I kind of didnt like it...I wish the music was more better for this.

    here we go

    At least for once, he isn't talking trash. The lack of music in action set pieces almost disturbs me at times, i don't know why exactly, though. Perhaps it's just because it gives it a lesser atmospere.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    haters gonna hate rich

    its much better without music, much more gritty, realistic and stunning
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    i loved the lack of music in this scene
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't hate anything, i haven't even watched it.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    Iam not hating it.....I just dont like it just because it wasnt used music.
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  • SophoSopho Posts: 192
    The lack of music in action scene is a thing very recurrent in the films of Yates. I remember some action scenes of State of Play, the Dumbledore vs Voldemort, Harry vs Draco and the Snatcher chase. The result is a disturbing realism.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    @Mac

    Yes, i know.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The lack of music in action scene is a thing very recurrent in the films of Yates. I remember some action scenes of State of Play, the Dumbledore vs Voldemort, Harry vs Draco and the Snatcher chase. The result is a disturbing realism.
    That is certainly something that i've noticed. At times it works, and at other times, it doesn't.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Well, parts of the battle do have music, others don't. It's going to be rather interesting onscreen. :)
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Of course it will be, either way, with or without music.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • amazing. just amazing
  • ProphecyHPProphecyHP Posts: 181
    Incredible. Great directed and amazing effects
  • lilysthemelilystheme Posts: 88
    If there is a harrypotter movie on abc family tonight will you guys record it when they show a new clip?
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    I think it should be another one tonight...Because Dan emma represented two clip now its time on rupert:)
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  • stu_mcdstu_mcd Posts: 189
    I found it quite weird without the music the first time I watched it, however it has grown on me after re watching and it looks fantastic. I can't wait to see it in the film.
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  • CoolestGuyOnHPFCoolestGuyOnHPF Posts: 1,407
    Still not watching ;)
    Btw 1000th comment woo ! :bz
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  • HuffleBenHuffleBen Posts: 579
    I know this is a stupid question...but is that most of the battlex?
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    This the battle begins part.
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know this is a stupid question...but is that most of the battlex?
    ben its 30 secs lol
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    There are probably going to be two big parts of the battle. The battle begins part which this is a bit of and then the trio run across the courtyard to the boathouse battle. Well and the final confrontation battle will be the third.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    By the way, I just timed the Two Towers Battle and it's 15 minutes long. :O I thought it was over 30 minutes, but it wasn't.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    By the way, I just timed the Two Towers Battle and it's 15 minutes long. :O I thought it was over 30 minutes, but it wasn't.
    :-$ :O
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Yeap! It's just 15 minutes and a few seconds long. The destruction of Isengard is 3 minutes long and the battle of Osgiliath is only 5 minutes. So, totally, the action of its climax was 23 minutes. :O

    And DH2's Battle of Hogwarts is 40-45 minutes long?! Wow.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeap! It's just 15 minutes and a few seconds long. The destruction of Isengard is 3 minutes long and the battle of Osgiliath is only 5 minutes. So, totally, the action of its climax was 23 minutes. :O

    And DH2's Battle of Hogwarts is 40-45 minutes long?! Wow.
    WOW!
    How long is the ROTK thing
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Return of the King has many battles, all of which are ridiculously long and insanely brilliant. It is quite literally impossible for me to know how long they amount to, overall.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Return of the King has many battles, all of which are ridiculously long and insanely brilliant. It is quite literally impossible for me to know how long they amount to, overall.

    Lord Stafford.

    Meh- I heard the book is the most boring thing ever.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Then they're wrong. If that accolade belongs to anyone, it is Twilight.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • VinceVince Posts: 292
    I've read the Lord of the Rings books, and they are not boring in the least. Instead, they are simply written differently, and literature has changed a lot in the past few decades. Tolkien was a linguist and a truly great writer, but he focused on description most of all and most readers nowadays require constant action and excitement to hold their attention.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've read the Lord of the Rings books, and they are not boring in the least. Instead, they are simply written differently, and literature has changed a lot in the past few decades. Tolkien was a linguist and a truly great writer, but he focused on description most of all and most readers nowadays require constant action and excitement to hold their attention.
    Are they better than Harry Potter (books; I don't deny the LOTR movies are better.)
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Exactly. LOTR is anything but boring.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    The Pelennor Fields Battle in RotK has a lot of different stages that are intercut with many other sequences, but, totally, it is roughly 25 minutes long.
    Frodo's encounter with the spider is roughly 8 minutes long, the Battle at the Black Gates is only, yes, 5 minutes and the destruction of the Ring is around 6 minutes, as well.
    Totally, the action of RotK's climax is around 45 minutes. Roughly as long as DH2's. :O
  • VinceVince Posts: 292
    It's very difficult to say whether or not they are "better". They are just so different. People draw a lot of comparisons between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings but they are extremely different. I enjoyed Harry Potter books more. I can greatly appreciate Tolkien's style and was certainly captivated as I read the novels, but Harry Potter felt stronger in its characters, if not themes.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Pelennor Fields Battle in RotK has a lot of different stages that are intercut with many other sequences, but, totally, it is roughly 25 minutes long.
    Frodo's encounter with the spider is roughly 8 minutes long, the Battle at the Black Gates is only, yes, 5 minutes and the destruction of the Ring is around 6 minutes, as well.
    Totally, the action of RotK's climax is around 45 minutes. Roughly as long as DH2's. :O
    Sorry, but ROTK's battle overall amount to more than that, i can assure you. I even watched it the other day, and most of the film was dedicated to mini or otherwise battles, and remember... this is a 3 hour film.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Don't forget Staff that the battle starts around 90 minutes into the film and is intercut with a lot of scenes that don't have to do anything with it (Frodo and Sam on the stairs, Frodo locked in the Orc tower, Rohan people preparing for the fight, Aragorn and co. with the ghosts, Steward's scenes with Faramir's funeral, more than 15 minutes before the attack at the Black Gates where Gandalf, Aragorn etc. prepare for the final stand, plus the 20-minute aftermath). All this stuff pretty much happens along with the 45-minute battle scenes in the film's final 90 minutes.

    It doesn't give the impression that it's actually less than an hour long, because it intercuts between so many sequences very well. That's what I call clever editing.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hearing the detail in LOTR makes me feel HP sucks :-(( :-(( :-(( :-((
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, i suppose so. It is my least favourite out of the three, purely because it has less of a story (ever so slightly) and it is almost completely action oriented. That of course isn't to say that it isn't a phenomonal film... it is well up there with the best of any. I personally prefer the other two, the feel of them and all.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hearing the detail in LOTR makes me feel HP sucks :-(( :-(( :-(( :-((
    LOTR is quite literally an entire world built by Tolkien. JK created a small world in comparison to it, but it is still incredibly detailed.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hearing the detail in LOTR makes me feel HP sucks :-(( :-(( :-(( :-((
    LOTR is quite literally an entire world built by Tolkien. JK created a small world in comparison to it, but it is still incredibly detailed.

    Lord Stafford.
    True; can't wait for Seven Books of ''800' passages of new info
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  • AlfiewitsAlfiewits Posts: 289
    Wow that is pretty damn fucking cool. Giants r incredible
  • HuffleBenHuffleBen Posts: 579
    I know this is a stupid question...but is that most of the battlex?
    ben its 30 secs lol
    I know I know BUT like as in the big battle at uIe start, how long will that be
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    I doubt there is going to be 45 minutes of pure battling in DH1.
  • VinceVince Posts: 292
    I feel like maybe 20-30 minutes tops of pure battling seems more realistic.
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    DH2 will be lucky to have 20 minutes of pure battle, add the RoR to that and you get a 30 minutes action sequence. I dont give it more than that before the snapes death and the climax after that
    But it will feel good. The emotional part and then the second half of the battle, and the final stand will make it feel well balanced, without mentioning the preparations before, I think the overall battle scenes will feel like is an hour long, just like TROTK intercuted editing :)
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    Hope you like it!
  • LupinTheGreatLupinTheGreat Posts: 542
    edited July 2011
    I know this is off topic but I just checked to see showtimes for Thursday (Midnight) and Friday and Saturday. It's quite unbelievable...there is 5 showings for Dh2 in 2d and 5 in 3D (12:01,12:16,12:35,12:45,1:00) <-- the Thursday night showings, THESE ARE ALL SOLD OUT!

    Next i checked for Friday...there's about 15 showings for each 2D and 3D(11:05Am,12:45Pm,1:25pm,1:45,2:15,2:30,3:00,3:15,4:00,4:30,5:45,6:30,7:25,8:00 and 9:30Pm)

    ALL SOLD OUT^


    I mean...wtf LOL I'd never expect the theater i go to would have it sold out this much...THE MOVIE HASN'T EVEN GOTTEN HERE YET LOL!


    On topic: That clip is just...epic
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    ~I have NOT read the Potter books, only watched the movies FYI.
  • SlanteeSlantee Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭
    Hearing the detail in LOTR makes me feel HP sucks :-(( :-(( :-(( :-((
    LOTR and HP are both winners in their own way. While Tolkein created an incredibly detailed world, the Middle Earth, the plot in LOTR isn't as strong and crisp as HP's. In my opinion, that is. There are a lot of subplots going on at all times, and not all of them are focused on Frodo, the protagonist. Harry Potter too has a lot of subplots but they are all directly related to Harry Potter and his quest. So yes, as Vince said, Tolkein was a great writer and his stories were literature based. But today's reader would go for HP for the tighter plot, strong characterizations, and faster pace.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hearing the detail in LOTR makes me feel HP sucks :-(( :-(( :-(( :-((
    LOTR and HP are both winners in their own way. While Tolkein created an incredibly detailed world, the Middle Earth, the plot in LOTR isn't as strong and crisp as HP's. In my opinion, that is. There are a lot of subplots going on at all times, and not all of them are focused on Frodo, the protagonist. Harry Potter too has a lot of subplots but they are all directly related to Harry Potter and his quest. So yes, as Vince said, Tolkein was a great writer and his stories were literature based. But today's reader would go for HP for the tighter plot, strong characterizations, and faster pace.
    Today's people read? :O

    Joking aside, I actually fully agree with you on that.
  • byxspeaksbyxspeaks Posts: 48
    I told ya guys, the film will be good in 3D

    when I saw the Final trailer in IMAX 3D weeks ago I was amazed especially seeing the scenes from that past Harry Potter films in 3D... wow.... magical feeling... David Yates won't disappoint you in 3D for sure
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Hearing the detail in LOTR makes me feel HP sucks :-(( :-(( :-(( :-((
    LOTR and HP are both winners in their own way. While Tolkein created an incredibly detailed world, the Middle Earth, the plot in LOTR isn't as strong and crisp as HP's. In my opinion, that is. There are a lot of subplots going on at all times, and not all of them are focused on Frodo, the protagonist. Harry Potter too has a lot of subplots but they are all directly related to Harry Potter and his quest. So yes, as Vince said, Tolkein was a great writer and his stories were literature based. But today's reader would go for HP for the tighter plot, strong characterizations, and faster pace.
    Potter has a stronger plot and is more rich, likely because of that, but LOTR has the bigger and better world.

    P.S 100TH COMMENT!!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I told ya guys, the film will be good in 3D

    when I saw the Final trailer in IMAX 3D weeks ago I was amazed especially seeing the scenes from that past Harry Potter films in 3D... wow.... magical feeling... David Yates won't disappoint you in 3D for sure
    I'm not going to see David Yates in 3D, i'm going to see Part 2 of the Deathly Hallows in 3D.

    Lord Stafford.

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