Because he is a very good composer and he's done some very excellent scores. Besides even if it wasn't his best 'New Moon' was still better than OOTP and HBP.
I'm going to have to disagree, OOTP and HBP were far superior to New Moon's Score. New Moon sounded like it was a made for TV score . . . terrible. Still, he has been brilliant with other films he's scored so I still have hope.
Nah Hooper never really composed any memorable themes. He tended to score for specific scenes and didn't produce flowing work connected by any memorable themes. In Noctem was probably the most memorable and only one he tried to use to connect HBP's score together, but the other references were SO obscure, I'm not sure I would have noticed them if I hadn't read an interview where he mentioned where exactly the theme was placed throughout the film. His complete lack of memorable themes made the score disjointed, and a lot of his music lacked any sense of melody. And it was far to basic. Mainly it was just chord progressions, which made them sound cheap. And a lot of his songs were just the same part repeated. The Killing of Dumbledore was bloody awful; for almost the whole song, it was just the same couple of bars played over and over and over. He also tended to use very flighty sounding instruments, which rarely reflected the mood of the scene or the film. This wouldn't have been as much of a problem if his music had been any more than just forgettable "background music", which purely sounded as though it were only there because it had to be, and not because it would enhance the scene.
And Desplat, although his score for New Moon did not fit the film or scenes for much of it, still managed to produce a VERY MEMORABLE theme, that of the Volturi, that joined the score together, and also, while not so memorable, but still far more memorable than anything Hooper could ever have concocted, was his love theme.
Hooper had worked all his life on TV until Harry Potter, and so he still made a cheap sounding, TV-like score. A lot of fans like him, and that's Okay. But I'd like to point out that his scores are the worst reviewed of the series.
Desplat is a wonderful, three times Oscar nominated composer, who has already stated he plans to bring back more of John William's themes, despite having no obligation to do so. That gives me a lot of respect for the guy, because it shows he does not have such a big ego (that seemingly Hooper has) that he can recognise wonderful music, knows it will enhance the film, and is determined to incorporate it with his own work. Hooper, however, did not use any of William's work in OOTP, aside from a brief reference to Hedwig's theme, nor did he use Doyle's memorable Voldemort's theme or indeed his Cho/Harry Love theme. He did use a couple of more references to Williams in OOTP, but it would have been nice of him to incorporate more of his work. Or even Doyle's. For example he should have used one of their Voldemort's themes. But evidently he felt to above them for that.
Desplat's music will be brilliant. Just wait and see.
I agree with Braveheart on Desplat's score being brilliant. And in a new interview he said he has over 4-5 months for composing the music, PLENTY of time for making amazing stuff.
But I disagree with Hooper's score being unrememorable. That title goes to Doyle: I remember nothing from GoF other then the title music. That was great, but everything seemed so generic. Hooper produced some great stuff. But yeah, Williams was the best and will remain the best until Desplat's score becomes official.
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Because Doyle introduced to very nice themes, Voldemort's theme, and the Love theme.
Hooper has had no "themes" as such. His most memorable track was Dumbledore's Army, which he lazily rehashed in HBP at a completely unrelated scene for the Dumbledore's army theme - Quidditch. And he also rehashed some more stuff from OOTP to HBP, out of what I can only assume if sheer laziness. The guy did not, to me, produce anything truly memorable. To me, Doyle did, especially his Voldemort theme.
Really? I found OOTP to much more like a TV score than New Moon. Apart from a few pieces it lacked any kind of technicality, there were no motifs to connect it together and it lacked really any kind of powerful or mesmerising melodies that were common in the previous four instalments. I mean, Flight of the Order feels so basic, it is simplistic to a ridiculous point the like orchestration is so minimal theres no musical shades or colours. It doesnt even feel cinematic and thats a common problem throughout, so much of the music is episodic and whenever it feels like its building up to something it dies or falls flat and doesnt deliver such as the ending of The Journey to Hogwarts. Theres also the problem that most of the music is very bouncy and catchy and fails to reflect the grim, very depressing mood that is central throughout the film. Also I think that he relied way too much on just chord progressions again the over-simplicity, such as Possession not only is there nothing to connect it with taking away an increased emotional effect but it Is just some rising chords which eventually fade into nothing. Hooper had his moments Fireworks, Room of Requirement. But overall I find the simplicity and un-cinematic approach to be its downfall, even more so the lack of continuity in the score itself is the problem. Without any recurring themes through different pieces it falls apart. There is nothing to connect anything with and really leaves everything as an individual piece and remains very un-engaging.
His attempt on Half-Blood Prince as better, he certainly seemed to have taken on-board a lot. For starters it actually sounded cinematic and tracks didnt just die away towards the end they even transitioned into other pieces. Even still I found to took quite a minimalistic approach too often there were pieces that went absolutely no where and served as simply background music ala Into the Pensieve and Snape and the Unbreakable Vow they didnt do much to really help the atmosphere of the scenes either that was achieved much more through the cinematography, direction and acting. The score was little more than noise in the background and again with some basic chord progressions as if it would help push a scene to be more effective the beginning of Opening is just a few chords. Even more so weve gone from immaculate and gorgeous melodies like Fawkes the Phoenix and A Window to the past to 3 note cues found in Harry and Hermione. His action scores were simply diatonic strings performing some very simple rhythms. Theres a true lack of engagement in his scores When Ginny Kissed Harry just tingles on in the background without making its presence known or really contributing to the scene. I found huge moments like the Astronomy Tower to be criminally underscored and again most of the power came from other factors. The few references to Williams were honestly the most impressive parts of tracks like Rons Victory! which honestly felt very episodic. I honestly cant get much emotion out of his pieces The Friends feels like such a half-assed effort, it must be about 2 minutes of the same three chords repeating. Hell, even the ending to Inferi in the Firestorm is a total underscore, his music didnt add anything extra to the scene at all and honestly it never stands out or gives any lasting impression.
You and I are in complete agreement, Pintell. Too episodic, and too underscored for my liking, is Hooper. And I certainly didn't like how for two out of the three action scenes in HBP, he just used the Death Eaters theme, and the only change was that it was speeded up a little for the Burrow attack. A theme, which I personally felt, was not particularly memorable; 4 notes repeated over and over again? No thank you.
Exactly right, I don't think he was terrible he had his high points such as Fireworks, Slughorn's Confession and Journey to the Cave. But overall I feel most of his stuff was mediocre. I found "The Killing of Dumbledore" to be quite pitiful really, such a tense moment and he has the same musical phrase repeating. His music was very episodic, common on OOTP "Loved Ones and leaving" is pretty much testament to this, the final minutes of the film and the score resembles the ending to a Drama.
And as you said above he never really had many themes let alone memorable ones, OOTP was completely lacking in that department and in HBP they were barley noticeable because they were so minimalistic. Even his most memorable ones, such as the Death Eater piece, were so unchanging. "Into the Rushes" is mostly the same musical phrase repeating over and over. Heck, I'm pretty sure Yates added the opening cue of "Slughorn's Confession" throughout the film just to give it some connection. I dislike his underscoring greatly. The ending to Inferi In the Firestorm feels so out of place and doesn't really compare to what's on screen. Even still "Dumbledore's Farewell" barley captures the emotion that it should because once again Hooper merely uses chord progressions to evoke an emotional response. And it's a shame that some of the biggest moments in the film suffer because of his lack of vision, I think the most prominant part of the entire soundtrack is "Journey to the Cave" and is probably the on grand moment in the film that doesn't feel like it is lacking musically
Yeah,I agree with lupinshowl,I love all the HP music,but each composer has it's flaws. I never get a soundtrack in which I love all the songs you know? I always gotta skip to get to the better tracks. I know itll never happen,because some ar
Yeah,and good thing hes using Williams score cause if he said he wasnt Id be so pissed Id be saying lotta crap bout him lol,but I wont,I got faith in this guy....
Danny Elfman? The guy who does the charlie and the choc.movies music? If it's that guy then hell no cause he repeats his music. He used basically the same music in Alice in winderland! The beginning was probably the same music or sounded the same. If it's not that guy than sorry for wisting youre time!!!
Elfman's got some good scores. Still I'll be really disappointed if they don't get Williams back to end the series. Depending on how Desplat does for part one I might be able to live with it for part 2. Still, I'm really pulling for Williams to return.
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And Desplat, although his score for New Moon did not fit the film or scenes for much of it, still managed to produce a VERY MEMORABLE theme, that of the Volturi, that joined the score together, and also, while not so memorable, but still far more memorable than anything Hooper could ever have concocted, was his love theme.
Hooper had worked all his life on TV until Harry Potter, and so he still made a cheap sounding, TV-like score. A lot of fans like him, and that's Okay. But I'd like to point out that his scores are the worst reviewed of the series.
Desplat is a wonderful, three times Oscar nominated composer, who has already stated he plans to bring back more of John William's themes, despite having no obligation to do so. That gives me a lot of respect for the guy, because it shows he does not have such a big ego (that seemingly Hooper has) that he can recognise wonderful music, knows it will enhance the film, and is determined to incorporate it with his own work. Hooper, however, did not use any of William's work in OOTP, aside from a brief reference to Hedwig's theme, nor did he use Doyle's memorable Voldemort's theme or indeed his Cho/Harry Love theme. He did use a couple of more references to Williams in OOTP, but it would have been nice of him to incorporate more of his work. Or even Doyle's. For example he should have used one of their Voldemort's themes. But evidently he felt to above them for that.
Desplat's music will be brilliant. Just wait and see.
But I disagree with Hooper's score being unrememorable. That title goes to Doyle: I remember nothing from GoF other then the title music. That was great, but everything seemed so generic. Hooper produced some great stuff. But yeah, Williams was the best and will remain the best until Desplat's score becomes official.
Hooper has had no "themes" as such. His most memorable track was Dumbledore's Army, which he lazily rehashed in HBP at a completely unrelated scene for the Dumbledore's army theme - Quidditch. And he also rehashed some more stuff from OOTP to HBP, out of what I can only assume if sheer laziness. The guy did not, to me, produce anything truly memorable. To me, Doyle did, especially his Voldemort theme.
His attempt on Half-Blood Prince as better, he certainly seemed to have taken on-board a lot. For starters it actually sounded cinematic and tracks didnt just die away towards the end they even transitioned into other pieces. Even still I found to took quite a minimalistic approach too often there were pieces that went absolutely no where and served as simply background music ala Into the Pensieve and Snape and the Unbreakable Vow they didnt do much to really help the atmosphere of the scenes either that was achieved much more through the cinematography, direction and acting. The score was little more than noise in the background and again with some basic chord progressions as if it would help push a scene to be more effective the beginning of Opening is just a few chords. Even more so weve gone from immaculate and gorgeous melodies like Fawkes the Phoenix and A Window to the past to 3 note cues found in Harry and Hermione. His action scores were simply diatonic strings performing some very simple rhythms. Theres a true lack of engagement in his scores When Ginny Kissed Harry just tingles on in the background without making its presence known or really contributing to the scene. I found huge moments like the Astronomy Tower to be criminally underscored and again most of the power came from other factors. The few references to Williams were honestly the most impressive parts of tracks like Rons Victory! which honestly felt very episodic. I honestly cant get much emotion out of his pieces The Friends feels like such a half-assed effort, it must be about 2 minutes of the same three chords repeating. Hell, even the ending to Inferi in the Firestorm is a total underscore, his music didnt add anything extra to the scene at all and honestly it never stands out or gives any lasting impression.
And as you said above he never really had many themes let alone memorable ones, OOTP was completely lacking in that department and in HBP they were barley noticeable because they were so minimalistic. Even his most memorable ones, such as the Death Eater piece, were so unchanging. "Into the Rushes" is mostly the same musical phrase repeating over and over. Heck, I'm pretty sure Yates added the opening cue of "Slughorn's Confession" throughout the film just to give it some connection. I dislike his underscoring greatly. The ending to Inferi In the Firestorm feels so out of place and doesn't really compare to what's on screen. Even still "Dumbledore's Farewell" barley captures the emotion that it should because once again Hooper merely uses chord progressions to evoke an emotional response. And it's a shame that some of the biggest moments in the film suffer because of his lack of vision, I think the most prominant part of the entire soundtrack is "Journey to the Cave" and is probably the on grand moment in the film that doesn't feel like it is lacking musically