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My Review of Hugo (I think it's overrated. Yes, I really do)

Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2012 in General
Ignore earlier comments, I just changed the topic of the thread :p

So I really dislike formal reviews that state everything and speak all highly and blahblahblah. That's why no one these days give a flying fuck to what critics think. They act like they know better than you, when in all honesty, everything is opinionated. I prefer typing as I would speak, you know? You'll be able to relate to it better :p


I saw the movie in 2-D because I didn't want to pay the extra bucks to see it in 3-D. At the end of the movie though, I understand why Scorsese made the film a 3-D movie. There is a scene when, with one of the first movies ever made, makes people jump. A train approaches the screen and when it does, the people jump thinking they were in danger. It shows the evolution of film, and what do you know, the movie has a train that goes towards the camera as well! Funny stuff.

Anyways, there were many shots just made for 3-D. It annoyed me. Numerous shots going around the gears of the clock tower, the speeding train, going through crowds of people, etcetcetc. It was shot after shot of "damn this would look like nice in 3d." It became bothersome after a while.

Now, something you may be asking is: why do basically all critics love this movie whilst Martin, who normally agrees with critics, doesn't like it?

Why? Because this film was made for critics to fall over for. There are scenes just providing history on old movies and the Georges, the character played by Ben Kingsley (who did wonderful) directing career. This long scene just talked about the wonder and magic he felt making movies, how he loved it, how it was everything to him, and how nobody appreciated his movies after the war. It's a homage to the first movies ever made. It's a homage to the century old movies that people today ignore. Of course critics are going to piss themselves over this.

There are meaningless side plots that do nothing to advance the story. We see people again and again at their tea shop, a lady with a dog that bites a man and gets angry at him multiple times, then the man at the end buys a dog and suddenly the other dog is calm. It's like, who cares? I want to know what's happening with Hugo, not random people we have no emotional connection to.

There's the train inspector played by Sacha Baron Cohen as well, and the flower girl he likes. There's a side plot about him catching wandering kids (orphans mostly) and him trying to talk to the flower girl. Again, who cares? All this time could have been spent making Hugo more interesting. And Hugo, well, wasn't as interesting as he could have been.

The most we see of Hugo's father, who is mentioned time and time again, is in small flashbacks. Hardly at all. All that time could've added another scene with his father at the movies as Hugo said they "always did." Why tell us this more than once when you could have simply showed it? I thought the rule of cinema was show don't tell. C'mon Scorsese, you are much better than that.

Right after Hugo's father dies, he sent to live with his uncle. Hugo has no time whatsoever to mourn, but as a child, is sent immediately to work the next morning at 5am. How awful that must have been to work, having to give up school and luxuries. This would have been great to see to make us feel sorry for Hugo and care for him.

Nope, the first scene we see of him is him trying to steal. Great introduction to a character we're supposed to care about, eh?

For the longest time, film isn't even mentioned. When it is, and when it becomes prominent, you begin to lose the sense of the plot. Not to mention, random cuts to these side plot characters.

The whole "magical family adventure" is extremely overplayed. There's no adventure. The most adventure is some chases by the inspector that don't invoke terror or worry in any way. There's no adventure to find the mystery behind the machine; everything comes together by luck and chance.

This really isn't a children's movie. The only thing children will enjoy are the visuals. I saw this with my sister and cousin who both thought it was okay. I could tell neither really enjoyed it. There's a lack of charm. There could have been a romance, but instead, the two leads never move beyond friendship. There could have been a great sense of sorrow for Hugo and he could have been a lovable character. Instead, we see pointless characters that slow down the plot. The movie feels all over the place. The children don't care about the history of cinema or the life lessons in this, so please, stop advertising this as "Scorsese's masterpiece children's" movie. Children aren't going to love this. My theater had two children and one teenager. Yes, that would be my sister, my cousin, and myself. The rest were all adults, and I fully understand.

Hugo lacks the charm, the adventure, and the overall sense of wonder that was heavily advertised. In the end, you end up with a little of everything. A little of everything though, isn't enough.

Final rating: 3.5/10
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've only seen 'the Muppets', but I loved it!
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've only seen 'the Muppets', but I loved it!
    Like, lolll, what's it even about? Just a bunch of cameos and jokes and whatnot?
  • HessHess Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never been a fan of the Muppets, so I would pick Hugo.
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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've only seen 'the Muppets', but I loved it!
    Like, lolll, what's it even about? Just a bunch of cameos and jokes and whatnot?
    Its about them reuniting and winning back
    Their theatre and its a fun filled nostalgia driven
    Film (:
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've only seen 'the Muppets', but I loved it!
    Like, lolll, what's it even about? Just a bunch of cameos and jokes and whatnot?
    Its about them reuniting and winning back
    Their theatre and its a fun filled nostalgia driven
    Film (:
    Okay. I've never seen the muppets before (like legit, NEVER) and neither has my sister who I'm going with, so that's why I'm leaning towards Hugo.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
    I've only seen 'the Muppets', but I loved it!
    Like, lolll, what's it even about? Just a bunch of cameos and jokes and whatnot?
    Its about them reuniting and winning back
    Their theatre and its a fun filled nostalgia driven
    Film (:
    Okay. I've never seen the muppets before (like legit, NEVER) and neither has my sister who I'm going with, so that's why I'm leaning towards Hugo.
    Ooo, see it then! It's supposed to be 'something else'. :D
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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah id say hugo if u dont like muppets

    But see muppets eventually it rocks
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah id say hugo if u dont like muppets

    But see muppets eventually it rocks
    Yeah I'll def watch it online or get it on DVD.

    It's not that I dont like the muppets, I just never watched them, loll.

  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll post my review of Hugo here later
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll post my review of Hugo here later
    @};-
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  • JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw Muppets and it was just very fun and I loved it. I might see Hugo tomorrow or Tuesday, but idk.
  • CarneCarne Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭
    Never been a fan of Muppets, nor do I have any interest at all in seeing Hugo (which looks like a very generic childrens movie).

    I'd pick Muppets if I had to choose.
  • I want to watch both so bad. :D
  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Watch both. There's no need to compare.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't wait to see Hugo. See both.
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Both. I look forward to seeing Hugo more simply because I like analyzing Oscar-possible films and it looks to be one.
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  • Both. I look forward to seeing Hugo more simply because I like analyzing Oscar-possible films and it looks to be one.
    This! I don't see how a Scorsese's movie can be generic. :(
  • phoenix1phoenix1 Posts: 2,293 mod
    After seeing Hugo advertised with Deathly Hallows I was really looking forward to seeing it (I never go to the movies except for HP) For some reason they aren't showing it anywhere near me :( I thought it was going to be seen nationwide and I'm really bummed because the movie looked awesome.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll post my full review in a bit, but Hugo was alright at best.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What?!
    It's getting rave reviews from audiences and critics; aside from this site?
    8-|
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What?!
    It's getting rave reviews from audiences and critics; aside from this site?
    8-|
    I'll explain in my full review :p
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What?!
    It's getting rave reviews from audiences and critics; aside from this site?
    8-|
    I'll explain in my full review :p
    :D I'm anticipating it!
    By the way, King's Cross looked more like it did in your signature (theaters), than it did on the DVD.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What?!
    It's getting rave reviews from audiences and critics; aside from this site?
    8-|
    I'll explain in my full review :p
    :D I'm anticipating it!
    By the way, King's Cross looked more like it did in your signature (theaters), than it did on the DVD.
    Yeah, the DVD has a green tint to it -.-
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What?!
    It's getting rave reviews from audiences and critics; aside from this site?
    8-|
    I'll explain in my full review :p
    :D I'm anticipating it!
    By the way, King's Cross looked more like it did in your signature (theaters), than it did on the DVD.
    Yeah, the DVD has a green tint to it -.-
    :(
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm surprised to be saying this, but I agree with you @NumberEight :p
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no desire to see this movie unless it was about Ron and Hermione's son.
    :))
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    :(
    It sounded promising.
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    I keep reading all this stuff about cinema and film being involved in Hugo's plot and I have no idea why. I thought it was supposed to be about an automaton.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I keep reading all this stuff about cinema and film being involved in Hugo's plot and I have no idea why. I thought it was supposed to be about an automaton.
    The automaton (when fixed by hugo) draws an image of one of the George's films. It was a movie that Hugo's father had seen and talked about, so Hugo wondered if it was a message from his father, then they see the signature to be George's. That's what leads to their searching for him in movies. And after that it's just a major humping of old movies. What worse is that nothing happens by adventure as I stated, it's all by accident. This is what saddened me most.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    :(
    It sounded promising.
    I thought it did too, You never know, you might LOVE it. I just didn't.
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
    Finally someone gets it. The problem is that Scorsese makes the medium out to be more important than it is, so, like you said, critics are going to participate in the orgy of self-masturbatory filmmaking. The visuals also overshadow any point that he wanted to make to kids. They won't care at all about having dreams and finding a purpose in life, but instead care about that 3D train, those 3D cog wheels, etcv.

    I recently watched the Ebert Presents review and the two hosts fawned over the visuals, barely touching upon the script and even admitted that it was a couple of lines of plot, if written out.

    Naturally, you can't have a meaningful discussion about this movie with cinephiles who will just attack you for having the audacity to go against the grain. You're probably a troll too. I was attacked at the Blu-ray forums for speaking out against this supposed "masterpiece." I'm not even going to continue to back up my opinions, which for some reason people think I state as fact. Another misconception thrown at "contrarians."

    Did you read my review, irlkg?
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Finally someone gets it. The problem is that Scorsese makes the medium out to be more important than it is, so, like you said, critics are going to participate in the orgy of self-masturbatory filmmaking. The visuals also overshadow any point that he wanted to make to kids. They won't care at all about having dreams and finding a purpose in life, but instead care about that 3D train, those 3D cog wheels, etcv.

    I recently watched the Ebert Presents review and the two hosts fawned over the visuals, barely touching upon the script and even admitted that it was a couple of lines of plot, if written out.

    Naturally, you can't have a meaningful discussion about this movie with cinephiles who will just attack you for having the audacity to go against the grain. You're probably a troll too. I was attacked at the Blu-ray forums for speaking out against this supposed "masterpiece." I'm not even going to continue to back up my opinions, which for some reason people think I state as fact. Another misconception thrown at "contrarians."

    Did you read my review, irlkg?
    I did yes, and I had a hard time believing it until I saw it.
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will say that the score is magnificent.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will say that the score is magnificent.
    That it is; I forgot to mention it!
  • HessHess Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everything is overrated these days.
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  • JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going to see Hugo tomorrow.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure TGWTDT will be overrated too but when you read and love a book you're almost inclined to like the movie if the movie even somewhat resembles the book and is made well. So Hugo I will love and TGWTDT I will love. I know this beforehand.
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everything is overrated these days.
    This is frighteningly close to being the truth.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everything is overrated these days.
    This is frighteningly close to being the truth.
    Glass half empty is the problem

    I look at the glass half full, so I enjoy just about anything that's not westerns or country music or any of that southern riff raff
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everything is overrated these days.
    I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, so, idk how to respond :p
  • HessHess Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everything is overrated these days.
    This is frighteningly close to being the truth.
    Glass half empty is the problem

    I look at the glass half full, so I enjoy just about anything that's not westerns or country music or any of that southern riff raff
    That's the point, if you're gonna watch a movie you have to sit there pretending you haven't heard anything about it and make your own conclusions. People tend to take too seriously critic's opinions.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You I'm thinking I was rather harsh with a 5/10. Hugo still told a story, though not as good as I would have hoped. Perhaps a 6, but that's as high as I'll go.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nah that's not harsh, I know from the source material that it would be easy to not like it. I have a weird affinity with stories about Orphans so it was just right up my alley.
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nah that's not harsh, I know from the source material that it would be easy to not like it. I have a weird affinity with stories about Orphans so it was just right up my alley.
    Okay, because idk, I have an overall sense of disappointment. I wasn't wowed, and I was expecting to be blown away.
  • HessHess Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
    Everything is overrated these days.
    I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, so, idk how to respond :p
    Well no, I'm not being sarcastic :). I just think that sometimes people find a lot of movies overrated just because they get good reviews. It's like, they find some minor think that didn't like, and believe the movie is not as good as people say. Or as you say, you can feel dissapointed.
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  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To be honest it doesn't have a story that can blow you away I don't think... its very simple. Kid searches for an answer and ends up unearthing an old legend- that's really it. There's not much character development because it's halfly a picture book and as they say a tribute to very very old film.
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everything is overrated these days.
    I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, so, idk how to respond :p
    Well no, I'm not being sarcastic :). I just think that sometimes people find a lot of movies overrated just because they get good reviews. It's like, they find some minor think that didn't like, and believe the movie is not as good as people say. Or as you say, you can feel dissapointed.
    I understand. Except I don't think what I've said is minor. And I'm one that doesn't usually ago against the grain with reviews. I mostly tend to agree with them.
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's time to be a full contrarian, irlkg. Join the Dark Side.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whoa whoa numbereight I didn't know you were Sith?
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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