People have officially made me dislike Azkaban.

Bane

Jesus Christ. I have never in my life been subjected to more bullshit elitism. I used to love it. I really did. But now when I watch it all I can think of is how I'm watching a product that is put up on a pedestal by film elitists to such a sickening degree that it has retroactively destroyed my opinion of the film. I think it's a great film, I really do, but now I just cannot even stand its existence because people are brainwashed into thinking that it's vastly superior to the other movies and that it's the only good Potter movie because of the director.

Fuck I hate elitist film snobs so much and every film they like.

Richard

Lol poa is NOT the best. That belongs to DH.

Bane

I mean I'm fine with opinions, but it gets out of hand when people just automatically switch over into elitist mode about it when the director of it made something critically-acclaimed.

When Azkaban came out, yes it got good reviews, but for the most part I remember nothing but bitching about how things were changed and how stupid parts were and such. Now it's suddenly a flawless masterpiece that makes every other Potter movie look like they were directed by Uwe goddamn Boll.

blackvenom

PoA is good, but not great. Cuaron managed to redefine the series and bring some deeper more artistic qualities to the story, while still being faithful to the source material. The redesign of Hogwarts, the acting improvement, the more abstract and kind of poetic approach to the story were all good things. But it's still a flawed film and there are parts that I don't really like (overall, I think that Cuaron's vision and direction were great, but his unique style was overwhelming and quite unnecessary in some parts, for instance), but it's a very worthy effort and one of the highlights of the series. Still, it's not the best film of the series, in my opinion. That goes to the DH films.

I love how people bash Dobby's two-three humorous lines in DH1 and totally forget the random Shrunken Head, Trelawney's over-the-top behaviour, Wormtail being a caricature, Ron's funny lines and random stuff like that woman going to a room in Leaky Cauldron and Potter's godawful final shot in the film. I mean, I love major parts of the film and it's one of my favorites, but come on. :-P

aaron

Yates will never ever live up to the legacy that the *books* created or the mastery of the *Alfonso Cuaron* huh

Bane

Yates will never ever live up to the legacy that the *books* created or the mastery of the *Alfonso Cuaron* huh

I love how Cuaron's cinematography is so great that the other films look like shit by comparison.

owait

Ash

Yates will never ever live up to the legacy that the *books* created or the mastery of the *Alfonso Cuaron* huh

LMAOLMAO

aaron

I mean, I think I'd take shrunken heads over more battle any day, wouldn't you?

Bane

I mean, I think I'd take shrunken heads over more battle any day, wouldn't you?

WHAT BATTLE THEY CUT IT AND LIED

Richard

THE SHRUNKEN HEADS FTW

Ash

THE SHRUNKEN HEADS FTW

LMAO RICHARD, I LOVE YOU MAN.

Richard

THE SHRUNKEN HEADS FTW

LMAO RICHARD, I LOVE YOU MAN.

TROLOLOL LOVE YOU TO I DREAMED OF YOU LAST NIGHT

aaron

Bane

Yeah pretty much.

Bane

Fucking assholes.

yonythemoony

POA is the film where they started to change The plot, It was more useful to cuaron to show mexican skulls, than The marauders. And from that point they started to delay the revelation of James bullying Snape when they we're young (the reason why Snape hated Harry).

Bane

I mean who would actually rather sit down and watch Azkaban instead of Part 2? Really?

aaron

Azkaban does have its problems though. I think its mainly the haunting tone that really draws everybody in, the dynamic and sugar-coated colors, the gothic feel and illustrious music, the darker camera angles and such. It's a very well-made film. Has a few script issues, but a lot of script standouts. A few acting issues, but also great performances from Oldman and Gambon. I think the biggest thing is the pacing though. And of course, it was just another film in the Potter saga, until Cuaron became huge and people automatically deemed it a masterpiece.

Bane

Yep, I'm not dissing Azkaban, the film itself. It's VERY well made.

aaron

Just the legacy of it. Tarnished by Children of Men. COM was indeed a masterpiece, it just shouldn't automatically make his entire filmography one.

[Deleted User]

Cuaron is an amazing director. Y Tu Mamá También is a masterpiece.

Bane

Just the legacy of it. Tarnished by Children of Men. COM was indeed a masterpiece, it just shouldn't automatically make his entire filmography one.

That's just my problem, again if all the love for Azkaban was there when it first came out, I'd have less of a problem with it. But I immediately noticed the trend settle in right after Children of Men came out. I fucking love Children of Men. I would put it in my top five films of the last decade. I am not biased against Cuaron or anything he does. What I have a problem with are these fucking assbags who want to sound smart while sipping on their champagne by claiming that Azkaban is not only the best Harry Potter movie, it's the ONLY GOOD ONE. Yes I have heard this. More times than I would have liked to hear it.

I think Azkaban is a fine film and if people wish to like it as much as they do, that's fine and fuckin' dandy, but it's not only absurd to call it the only good Potter movie, it's downright destructive to the AMAZING work that followed it. Cuaron came on and made one movie and bailed. He pretty much honed in all his energy on that one film. David Yates hammered out the entire fucking last HALF of the entire film franchise and did it in a manner just as suave and impressive, if not more, than Cuaron did.

Bane

Yes, I find that frighteningly distasteful and downright arrogant.

Pumpkinjuice

I have never encountered a series with such an improvement in quality as we saw from Chamber to Azkaban.

aaron

If anyone ever says that HBP, DH1, or DH2 are not well-made films, I don't think I'll be able to take them seriously anymore. I mean, I can understand not liking them, but one simply cannot deny that they are well-made. You can visually see it while watching the film. How much work and effort was put into all the movies is insane. They are all delicately crafted and insanely well-made.

aaron

I have never encountered a series with such an improvement in quality as we saw from Chamber to Azkaban.

What's more, Yates' improvement as a director from OOTP through Part 2. He stepped up his game to a huge level for HBP.

Bane

I have never encountered a series with such an improvement in quality as we saw from Chamber to Azkaban.

Absolutely.

TheDoctor

Yates will never ever live up to the legacy that the *books* created or the mastery of the *Alfonso Cuaron* huh

LOL

I have never encountered a series with such an improvement in quality as we saw from Chamber to Azkaban.

I agree. I also agree with what darth is saying.

Pumpkinjuice

If anyone ever says that HBP, DH1, or DH2 are not well-made films, I don't think I'll be able to take them seriously anymore. I mean, I can understand not liking them, but one simply cannot deny that they are well-made. You can visually see it while watching the film. How much work and effort was put into all the movies is insane. They are all delicately crafted and insanely well-made.

What about OotP?

Pumpkinjuice

I have never encountered a series with such an improvement in quality as we saw from Chamber to Azkaban.

What's more, Yates' improvement as a director from OOTP through Part 2. He stepped up his game to a huge level for HBP.

Certainly, but I dunno about HBP. I found the film really drab compared to its engaging predecessor, especially the ending.

XDMorsmordreXD

I have never encountered a series with such an improvement in quality as we saw from Chamber to Azkaban.

I agree!

Darth Ledger

HBP, DH1, and DH2 make one of the best trilogies in film history

XDMorsmordreXD

People are overly dramatic about the quality of the films.

Lord_Darkeyes

HBP, DH1, and DH2 make one of the best trilogies in film history

\m/

Firefly

HBP, DH1, and DH2 make one of the best trilogies in film history

OOTP, HBP, DH

Joe

they should have done battle scenes with the shrunken heads LOL J/K!!!!

Festax0333

they should have done battle scenes with the shrunken heads LOL J/K!!!!

WOW SO FUNNY!!!!!!

XDMorsmordreXD

they should have done battle scenes with the shrunken heads LOL J/K!!!!

WOW SO FUNNY!!!!!!

I died at your response. Like, legit.

[Deleted User]

Hahahahahahahaha LMAO pat xD

Lord Stafford

they should have done battle scenes with the shrunken heads LOL J/K!!!!

WOW SO FUNNY!!!!!!

I died at your response. Like, legit.

Yes, really.

Lord Stafford.

Lord Stafford

People are overly dramatic about the quality of the films.

Naturally...

Lord Stafford.

aaron

If anyone ever says that HBP, DH1, or DH2 are not well-made films, I don't think I'll be able to take them seriously anymore. I mean, I can understand not liking them, but one simply cannot deny that they are well-made. You can visually see it while watching the film. How much work and effort was put into all the movies is insane. They are all delicately crafted and insanely well-made.

What about OotP?

OOTP as well. All of the films.

Pensieve Seeker

If anyone ever says that HBP, DH1, or DH2 are not well-made films, I don't think I'll be able to take them seriously anymore. I mean, I can understand not liking them, but one simply cannot deny that they are well-made. You can visually see it while watching the film. How much work and effort was put into all the movies is insane. They are all delicately crafted and insanely well-made.

What about OotP?

OOTP as well. All of the films.

Yes, an octology. (This is not to be confused with proctology, which is something else altogether.)

aaron

If anyone ever says that HBP, DH1, or DH2 are not well-made films, I don't think I'll be able to take them seriously anymore. I mean, I can understand not liking them, but one simply cannot deny that they are well-made. You can visually see it while watching the film. How much work and effort was put into all the movies is insane. They are all delicately crafted and insanely well-made.

What about OotP?

OOTP as well. All of the films.

Yes, an octology. (This is not to be confused with proctology, which is something else altogether.)

A franchise consisting of an octology of well-made films is a rather rare thing to behold, isn't it?

Richard

they should have done battle scenes with the shrunken heads LOL J/K!!!!

Id love that ololo

Pensieve Seeker

Yes, indeed it is, Aaron.

ImperioVoldy

Yates will never ever live up to the legacy that the *books* created or the mastery of the *Alfonso Cuaron* huh

I love how Cuaron's cinematography is so great that the other films look like shit by comparison.

owait

When the trailer for DH Part 1 was released, someone on CoS Forums said Yates cribbed Jackson, as if all aerial shots featuring landscape belong to Jackson.

yonythemoony

You know what's the problem? People talk about Harry Potter like if It we're star Wars. They praise the original trilogy and the first three or four films, and they complain about the prequels and the Yates films. Like if weren't part of the same story. It's not fair