Nat Tena not sad about Potter End

HorcruxWanderer

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a339603/harry-potter-end-wasnt-sad-for-me-says-natalia-tena.html

Not that I blame her, Severely under-used in the films - Its a shame that she has had to feel this way about the saga but oh well

Braveheart

I don't blame her at all. She was criminally underused. I hate how the brushed Lupin and Tonks completely to the side and then expected people to be sad about their deaths.

Marie_Anette

yeeep.

Popkin

Yeah, that's just the way she feels. Like she said, she was in and out and didn't get attached to her role like the others. She was still great as Tonks. Wish her the best.

HorcruxWanderer

Yeh she was a great Tonks and a potentally brilliant and heartbreakng one... Its a great shame she was just brushed to the side... was pretty disgusted with the screen time she had in DH2

Jason

I feel bad for her. Seems like she wanted more, but never got it.

Martin1

That's too bad

aaron

I don't blame her at all. She was criminally underused. I hate how the brushed Lupin and Tonks completely to the side and then expected people to be sad about their deaths.

Lmao, Moody literally PUSHED her to the side.

alexdridhp

she deserved moreeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!

RyGuy

I honestly cannot blame her. Lmao @ Aaron's comment!! Bahaha!

Braveheart

I don't blame her at all. She was criminally underused. I hate how the brushed Lupin and Tonks completely to the side and then expected people to be sad about their deaths.

Lmao, Moody literally PUSHED her to the side.

I know. It's like Yates was going for some symbolism of what they were doing to the character.

HorcruxWanderer

"Not now Nymphadora!!!!!"

Everytime I watch that, I'm like.. Oh Hang on! Let pregger's speak!

Carne

I understand her though. Her role was small, and she didn't have time to get attached like the rest of them. She's probably not a hardcore HP anyways.

Heck, they even forgot it was her last day when she finished, so it was sort of "Ok, bye Natalia, see you later".

Festax0333

they screwed over the wonderful david thewlis too...after a fanatastic aray of scenes he had in POA

Braveheart

they screwed over the wonderful david thewlis too...after a fanatastic aray of scenes he had in POA

Yes, I'm even more annoyed about that because Lupin is more important than Tonks. But then some buffoon thought it would be a clever idea to completely remove the baby subplot from Part 1 and have dead Lupin turn up to say LOLSSS I HAVE A CHILD HARRY, BUT I NEVER MENTIONED IT BEFORE, FUNNY DAT EH?

It's strange because Yates said he loves Lupin as a character, and yet he is arguably the biggest character Yates has consistantly fucked over in all of his movies.

yonythemoony

In the DH script, Lupin talks with Harry during the wedding and wants him to be Teddy's godfather. Besides in DH2, there's the scene between Lupin and Kingsley, besides the last scene with Lupin and Tonks alive. So, it's not like they forgot about him.

Braveheart

Yeah and the fact that it was in the script and then PURPOSEFULLY CUT makes it even worse. So somebody went out of their way to make the baby subplot as confusing and sudden and jarring as possible, while also going out of their way to shun Thewlis and cut down his screentime as much as possible. And yes, there is that one scene, but the scene at Shell Cottage with Lupin would not have gone amiss, because he has basically been a cameo role since POA, which he shouldn't have been.

The moment we see Lupin and Tonks dead in Part 2 is supposed to be a horrible emotionally crippling moment, but because they had like a minute of screentime per movie, with Tonks lucky to squeeze in ten seconds, probably made non-readers (and some readers) react to their deaths like: "Meh?"

Carne

I don't get why they cut the baby part though. So stupid.

Braveheart

I don't get why they cut the baby part though. So stupid.

Neither do I. There's really no logic behind it. Unless their logic was: well we want as little screentime with Lupin as possible, because we really don't want the audience to be emotionally invested in his character or anything. Oh, and we want to make everyone really confused by mentioning a baby at some point in the future as though he was already introduced, but we won't bother with an introduction so it can be as jarring as possible and take people out of the emotion of what is supposed to be one of the most emotional scenes in the series. Sound good?

yonythemoony

It's not like they fully cut it, there was a hint in the 7 Potters scene, Tonks was about to announce it, but she was interrumped by Mad-Eye. If they kept the scene in the wedding it would have been better. But I'm glad they cut the scene in Grimmauld Place, where Lupin says that he's embarrassed of Teddy Lupin. I hated him in that part.

Braveheart

Having her being cut off is not a way of setting up the subplot. It's just having her cut off, nobody knows what she was going to say. The baby subplot along with Tonks and Lupin were handled absolutely atrociously. But then it's kind of a thing in the later movies for plot points or developments not be be set up or introduced and then they just randomly appear in the most random and choppy way imagineable.

Popkin

they screwed over the wonderful david thewlis too...after a fanatastic aray of scenes he had in POA

This!

Festax0333

tbhi dont care about tonks that much....

i like lupin though, alot

Festax0333

yeah and dont get me wrong i dont dislike tonks
and i deffiinitely didnt like her having 4 seconds in dh2

TheDoctor

I honestly can't take the "screwed this character over" comments seriously. There are tons of minor characters in HP and everyone seems to have at least one they really like and are all "the movies screwed them over and didn't give them enough screentime!" If all these characters had been given as much screentime and all their suplots kept in as fans would want it would be so bogged down with suplots.

I think OotP is fine with Lupin and Tonks, HBP would've been more acceptable had they made up for it in DH. I think DH is the one that's really the problem with Lupin/Tonks because it makes no sense for them to have bothered keeping Bill and Fleur except to please the annoying purists.

TheDoctor

Yeah I get the complains about Lupin and Tonks because they do die and the death should be impactful. And they don't really have an excuse because DH was out when they made HBP/DH lol

yonythemoony

I honestly can't take the "screwed this character over" comments seriously. There are tons of minor characters in HP and everyone seems to have at least one they really like and are all "the movies screwed them over and didn't give them enough screentime!" If all these characters had been given as much screentime and all their suplots kept in as fans would want it would be so bogged down with suplots.

I think OotP is fine with Lupin and Tonks, HBP would've been more acceptable had they made up for it in DH. I think DH is the one that's really the problem with Lupin/Tonks because it makes no sense for them to have bothered keeping Bill and Fleur except to please the annoying purists.

I agree. Besides, the real focus of the story was always the trio, the others are just minor characters who we only saw just because they're with the main characters. They already said that after POA, because the books we're longer, they we're going to cut plots where Harry isn't involved. Thought the films manage to show certain characters when Harry, Ron or Hermione aren't there, it's just for a few moments.

Richard

plus they cut her entering hogwarts like a bad ass.

MattCat

I’d agree there’s too many minor character for them all to have a decent share of screentime, it’s especially true for characters that have a prominent role in one book and then become pretty much another face in the school or the Order for the rest of the series. Wormtail would be the best example of that.

As far as Lupin and Tonks go, and as much as I appreciate the fan-service, I think they could’ve cut Bill and Fleur and given Tonks and Lupin the wedding and Shell Cottage. Then we could’ve seen Teddy and had Lupin make Harry godfather in a scene at his crib. I think that idea was thrown around a bit after HBP but loads of fans were strongly against it.

Obliviator

Im my opinion after snape and dumbledore, Tonks and Lupin are fairly important secondary characters. Especially involving the whole story coming full circle with Teddy losing both his parents and such. But I suppose I'm a little biased with my fav character being Lupin

Firefly

I'm pretty hurt about the lack of Tonks in the films. I think Nat was perfect for her and you can see that in her documentary on the OOTP special features.

I will keep saying this, Bill and Fleur should have been totally cut and replaced with Lupin and Tonks in DH for more emotional investment.

HorcruxWanderer

plus they cut her entering hogwarts like a bad ass.

BAD ASS MILF!

I love Nat Tena, ah well, at least I can safely say 95% of the fandom loved her and wishes her the best :P

Braveheart

Yeah I really don't know why they bothered making the Wedding Bill and Fleur's. Because they basically had to introduce them, introduce their relationship and set up their wedding in a couple of lines. It was far too rushed. This is the point where they ought to remember it's an adaptation and they don't have to stick to the book there. I think a lot of fans were actually hoping that it would be Lupin and Tonks who got married, not some random couple we didn't even know about and care very little for. I'm sure they could have used other characters for the 7 Potters scene, maybe Ginny and, I don't know McGonagall or something? And I also liked the idea of Mr Weasley being the one mauled by Greyback. He's a more established character than Bill ever was, so nobody was really ever bothered by the scars on Bill's face.

I don't know, I just think omitting Bill and Fleur makes so much more sense to have a flowing narrative and to develop characters who actually matter, instead of spreading themselves to thinly over too many characters and not giving any of them the development they deserve. I guess that's what comes of being too faithful sometimes.

On a related note, I wish they had kept Tonks's purple hair style for HBP and DH. I think it's much nicer than that weird haircut from HBP and I don't think she suited the blonde. Also, I know a few people didn't realise it was the same person from OOTP until I told them.

MattCat

Yeah, I never really liked the way Bill and Fleur were introduced. To be honest, I thought Kloves’ dialogue at the beginning of that scene was pretty poor all over. You honestly could’ve replaced Bill and Fleur with two Diggle and what’s-her-face for all it’s worth. I remember a lot of fans dismissed the L/T wedding possibility because they figured it would be too out-of-character, nobody would come to a werewolf wedding, it’s not the same as a Weasley wedding etc.

I do see signs of Yates liking Lupin though I think he got a fair amount of screen time in DH1, he had some nice moments in Part II and he was the one who ran to protect Harry in HBP and tries to help him when Sirius dies. Then that also strikes me odd as to why they never just built-up Lupin and Tonks with the wedding and the cottage. Maybe it was a compromise with Kloves since he doesn't seem to really like changing much.

Pumpkinjuice

^ But Yates cut a scene in Kloves' script where Lupin asks Harry to be the godfather.

MattCat

Hmm, yeah. I suppose that might’ve been cut for the flow or length of the scene. Wasn’t it situated between the Lovegood’s and Doge?

Pumpkinjuice

Filmed and cut. Yates likes to waste time shooting material he never uses.

Pumpkinjuice

Hmm, yeah. I suppose that might’ve been cut for the flow or length of the scene. Wasn’t it situated between the Lovegood’s and Doge?

Maybe, but I don't think it would drag.

Pumpkinjuice

I edited the comment because I realized that he gave information about Bathilda Bang, and therefore couldn't be cut in post-production without making the Godric's Hollow scene completely random. Kloves should not have included Doge, Mundungus, Bill and Fleur and the minister of magic, but given their parts to Hermione, Tonks and Lupin and McGonagall.

Braveheart

I edited the comment because I realized that he gave information about Bathilda Bang, and therefore couldn't be cut in post-production. Kloves should have cut Doge, Mundungus, Bill and Fleur.

They could have easily had one of the Weasley's mention Bathilda.
Really... the whole Bathilda subplot could have been cut too. It didn't make as much sense in the movie as it did in the book.

It made even less sense because they never bothered mentioning what the hell was going on when Bathilda suddenly turned into Nagini. They needed a few lines between Harry and Hermione in the next scene to clarify that. Or they could simply not have cut Nagini emerging from Bathilda's mouth.

TheDoctor

Hmm, yeah. I suppose that might’ve been cut for the flow or length of the scene. Wasn’t it situated between the Lovegood’s and Doge?

Maybe, but I don't think it would drag.

It could've if it had been between Lovegood and Doge. I'd imagine if he had been stopped and talked to 2 seperate times it would've. They could've still restructered it to make it work though.

Pumpkinjuice

I edited the comment because I realized that he gave information about Bathilda Bang, and therefore couldn't be cut in post-production. Kloves should have cut Doge, Mundungus, Bill and Fleur.

They could have easily had one of the Weasley's mention Bathilda.
Really... the whole Bathilda subplot could have been cut too. It didn't make as much sense in the movie as it did in the book.

The Godric's Hollow scene is to me represantative for the major problem of the film; while it is a nice set piece per se, it has no place in the movie. It's just an event in an episodic film with no relevance to either story or plot. Had it been one film Bathilda could have had the sword and handed it to them.

Pumpkinjuice

Hmm, yeah. I suppose that might’ve been cut for the flow or length of the scene. Wasn’t it situated between the Lovegood’s and Doge?

Maybe, but I don't think it would drag.

It could've if it had been between Lovegood and Doge. I'd imagine if he had been stopped and talked to 2 seperate times it would've. They could've still restructered it to make it work though.

If so, Yates could have decided that they placed scene at Shell Cottage instead, but alas.

Braveheart

No, it was before Harry enters the tent. In fact, we saw the start of it, with Lupin strolling towards the entrance of the tent and standing there waiting as Harry approached. I think it would have fit just fine, like the tabboo talk would have, but for some reason things which should be explained don't get any explanation in the later movies. I remember Heyman once saying they wanted to put in even less exposition than they do, but then there would be absolutely no point even making the movies, because there has to be SOME kind of exposition for there to be a story at all. And if the producer doesn't get that, there's something badly wrong.

I think Part 1 could have seemed less episodic if they stuck to the Horcrux and Elder Wand plots, if they had made it a priority to kill Nagini in Godric's Hollow because she was a Horcrux, if they had made the sword a more significant concern of Harry's when they arrived at Bathilda's house and if they had put more significance on Harry's wand breaking. That would require actual explanation over what the hell Harry's wand did to Lucius's and more backstory about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, but it would also have made the movie less episodic and it wouldn't lose focus and drift for twenty minutes.

TheDoctor

I think what would've made Part 1 less episodic is giving Harry a proper character arc through his trust of Dumbledore/Dumbledore's past (which in turn would've made the Elder Wand plot more clear, so I'm kinda agreeing with you here).

Lord Stafford

I don't blame her at all. She was criminally underused. I hate how the brushed Lupin and Tonks completely to the side and then expected people to be sad about their deaths.

Lmao, Moody literally PUSHED her to the side.

I know. It's like Yates was going for some symbolism of what they were doing to the character.

He feels the need to do that with absolutely EVERYTHING.

Lord Stafford.

Braveheart

I think what would've made Part 1 less episodic is giving Harry a proper character arc through his trust of Dumbledore/Dumbledore's past (which in turn would've made the Elder Wand plot more clear, so I'm kinda agreeing with you here).

Yes, the Hallows vs Horcruxes decision should have been there too.

TheDoctor

Yeah, and it would've been perfect with where they ended the film because Dobby's death is the catalyst for him to choose the horcruxes and not the hallows. They could've introduced the Hallows earlier in the story as well because they get captured almost immediately after learning about them.

I don't think Part 1 is as good of an adaption. They tried way hard to stick to the book.

Lord Stafford

I don't blame her at all. She was criminally underused. I hate how the brushed Lupin and Tonks completely to the side and then expected people to be sad about their deaths.

Lmao, Moody literally PUSHED her to the side.

Blame the people or person responsible.

Lord Stafford.

Lord Stafford

Filmed and cut. Yates likes to waste time shooting material he never uses.

Oh yes. He probably does it just to mess with us.

And yes, Doge seemed unnecessary since the film didn't cover at all how Harry was questioning his faith in Dumbledore. It was glossed over. Hermione could have given the information, like she does with everything else.

Perhaps not, but he does tend to do it to the point of aggrevating alot of fans, believe it or not.

Lord Stafford.

Pumpkinjuice

Kloves should never have come back to write the last films. HBP was dreadfully written and DH 1 was too literal to the book narrative that it lost the essence of it.