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David Yates

PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 2011 in General
Discuss his handling of the last four Potter films, what you like about his direction style or what you think he lacks. Feel free to mention possible directorial trademarks and references to other films.
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  • CarneCarne Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭
    Some scenes are very rushed. Had each movie been fleshed out maybe 10 minutes it would have helped. Though this might also be WB fault of going "pff, no one wants to watch a movie over 2 hours!".

    Felt HBP was more about teenage romance than Voldemort's past (which was rushed and glossed over). Even my dad said "Was that supposed to be a romantic comedy?" when we walked out of the cinema.
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    Indeed, some scenes are very rushed or not given enough "weight". Like Dumbledore's death. It is such a pivotal moment, but it was not really built up well and it did not linger enough on the suspense of the situation and was pretty emotionless. Then there are scenes that are far too long for their own good. Yates needs to work on getting the rhythm of his films right. Part 2 was a huge improvement there, but far from perfect.
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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cut out freds death

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  • i remember when ootp came out that was his first one and i just hated his guts lol and i was so mad that he was gonna stay on
    but as the films went on i really enjoyed watching his style of handling the films even though I think he could have left a lot of stuff in and made the movies a bit longer but he made DH2 a great film to end with so I can't be mad at him :)
    one thing I don't like is how he doesn't seem to like including a lot of exposition in his movies,that stuff is always cut out or left in the deleted scenes. i don't think the films needed an overload of it because then it could be too much but he could have put in scenes to explain things that would confuse the people who haven't read the books
    but I actually think he's done a good job with the last 3 films
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    cut out freds death

    unforgiveable
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    David yates A guy that knows how to blow up your mind
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    If I could describe each film in one word:

    OOTP: solemn
    HBP: muted
    DH Part 1: haunting
    DH Part 2: prismatic
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    I think Yates its pretty good Actually...But some scenes are really rushed...And thatfucking mark day cant fucking edit,.
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    I think Yates its pretty good Actually...But some scenes are really rushed...And thatfucking mark day cant fucking edit,.
    He can edit. He can also edit well at some points...others, not so much. It all balances out. Parts 1 nor 2 felt rushed nor drawn out to the brink of exhaustion.

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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i remember when ootp came out that was his first one and i just hated his guts lol and i was so mad that he was gonna stay on
    but as the films went on i really enjoyed watching his style of handling the films even though I think he could have left a lot of stuff in and made the movies a bit longer but he made DH2 a great film to end with so I can't be mad at him :)
    one thing I don't like is how he doesn't seem to like including a lot of exposition in his movies,that stuff is always cut out or left in the deleted scenes. i don't think the films needed an overload of it because then it could be too much but he could have put in scenes to explain things that would confuse the people who haven't read the books
    but I actually think he's done a good job with the last 3 films
    From OotP onwards non-readers really must pay attention if they want to understand everything that's going on. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but a few plot points needed to be better explained (ie mirror shard and prophecy) because a film ought to stand on its own IMO.
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    I think Yates its pretty good Actually...But some scenes are really rushed...And thatfucking mark day cant fucking edit,.
    He can edit. He can also edit well at some points...others, not so much. It all balances out. Parts 1 nor 2 felt rushed nor drawn out to the brink of exhaustion.

    Yep Part 2 was one of the best I think with the Part 1...
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  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mark Day improved significantly with Deathly Hallows, but you still have a few of those abrupt Day cuts.
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I could describe each film in one word:

    OOTP: solemn
    HBP: muted
    DH Part 1: haunting
    DH Part 2: prismatic
    Interesting. He's without a doubt a versatile director.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Yep. The one thing about Yates movies is that almost every magical aspect of the wizarding world is brushed off and taken for granted with next to no explanation. I have mixed feelings about this. Aggravated because non-readers will be confused, excited because there's more room for small homages to the novels, relieved because there won't be long, droning explanations of EVERY LITTLE THING like in Columbus' films, and happy, because it makes the world feel a little more real.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Yep. The one thing about Yates movies is that almost every magical aspect of the wizarding world is brushed off and taken for granted with next to no explanation. I have mixed feelings about this. Aggravated because non-readers will be confused, excited because there's more room for small homages to the novels, relieved because there won't be long, droning explanations of EVERY LITTLE THING like in Columbus' films, and happy, because it makes the world feel a little more real.
    ^:)^
  • NumberEightNumberEight Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cut out freds death

    One Weasley was owned in a slow motion bit. I don't know if it was Fred or not.
    Pottermore username: DustBlade76

    So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Order of the Phoenix - This film is underrated. So many times do I see hate for this movie that is not backed up. There are claims made about it here and there, yet no specifics arise for me to counter or agree with.

    I think Yates saw we have our main character, Harry. This main character, this protagonist, this young and troubled man, is more interesting than the magic of Hogwarts or the wizarding world. The only classes we see in OotP relate specifically to Harry. His struggle to fend of Voldemort is one I felt was beautifully seen, and quite honestly, I think they've played the horcrux connection from the beginning Yates stepped in. How it was handled was stunning; Harry feeling pain from Voldemort's planted visions. His anger felt was something I could grasp; something I could hold on to. His films have felt the most real to me, and this is where it starts. His relationship with Sirius is constantly among the best rated scenes, and was voted best quote in the HPF film awards, if I'm not mistaken.

    All that, wrapped up with leaving behind adolescence and becoming a leader, is something I would take any day and all day over the magic.

  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cut out freds death

    One Weasley was owned in a slow motion bit. I don't know if it was Fred or not.
    It was George, which leads people to believe that Fred's death was filmed moments before and that is George right after.
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    Hm Am i the only one that LOVES OOTP and enjoyed it more than Half Blood Prince which was Half blood prince made in aspect of editing colouring cinematography and etc better made?
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hm Am i the only one that LOVES OOTP and enjoyed it more than Half Blood Prince which was Half blood prince made in aspect of editing colouring cinematography and etc better made?
    I understand the colouring; you may prefer the blues over the browns and greens, but I think HBP cinematography > OotP cinematography
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    Hm Am i the only one that LOVES OOTP and enjoyed it more than Half Blood Prince which was Half blood prince made in aspect of editing colouring cinematography and etc better made?
    I understand the colouring; you may prefer the blues over the browns and greens, but I think HBP cinematography > OotP cinematography
    Yeah in those aspect HBP BEATS OOTP easly. But I purely enjoyed ootp more than Hbp..Which I dont know why....
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  • Sometimes I think people give him too much credit. And forget that he was hired by Warner Bros. and that he answered to the producers.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hm Am i the only one that LOVES OOTP and enjoyed it more than Half Blood Prince which was Half blood prince made in aspect of editing colouring cinematography and etc better made?
    I understand the colouring; you may prefer the blues over the browns and greens, but I think HBP cinematography > OotP cinematography
    Yeah in those aspect HBP BEATS OOTP easly. But I purely enjoyed ootp more than Hbp..Which I dont know why....
    Probably from what I said earlier. Perhaps you like when we focus on Harry's story and little on anything else, which is what OotP did, as you see we saw no quidditch, spew, or anything of the like. HBP did have the romance and the memories which, even though involve and are relevant and important to Harry, don't progress him through the main story plot. The romance is split along, not even split, more of Ron and Hermione, and the memories don't exactly involve him, but Tom Riddle. Plus, there's a lot more interaction in HBP with other people whereas we don't see too much of that until Dumbledore's Army in OotP.

    Maybe that's why you like OotP better. It could also be why others like HBP better. It's a matter of preference.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes I think people give him too much credit. And forget that he was hired by Warner Bros. and that he answered to the producers.
    And sometimes I think producers get too much credit. Yes they hire most everyone, but the overall shape, look, feel, and flow of the movie belongs to the director. Well, not entirely, but he/she is definitely most responsible.
  • Sometimes I think people give him too much credit. And forget that he was hired by Warner Bros. and that he answered to the producers.
    And sometimes I think producers get too much credit. Yes they hire most everyone, but the overall shape, look, feel, and flow of the movie belongs to the director. Well, not entirely, but he/she is definitely most responsible.
    We are talking about a saga, not a regular movie.

    Besides money issues, why do you think WB decided to hire an unknown and inexperienced director to shoot one of the most famous saga's in filmmaking history?
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes I think people give him too much credit. And forget that he was hired by Warner Bros. and that he answered to the producers.
    And sometimes I think producers get too much credit. Yes they hire most everyone, but the overall shape, look, feel, and flow of the movie belongs to the director. Well, not entirely, but he/she is definitely most responsible.
    We are talking about a saga, not a regular movie.

    Besides money issues, why do you think WB decided to hire an unknown and inexperienced director to shoot one of the most famous saga's in filmmaking history?
    WB lost money after Order of the Phoenix, so, it's possibly, but I'm quite glad they did that! I really like Yates.

    Oh, and don't think OotP lost money. It made 900+ million. Warner Bros. lost money. So silly... :p
  • I'm not saying they lost money bud. I'm just saying that he was unknown and they would have to pay much more for a well known director, you know? But, for me, that wasn't the only reason they hired Yates.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not saying they lost money bud. I'm just saying that he was unknown and they would have to pay much more for a well known director, you know? But, for me, that wasn't the only reason they hired Yates.
    Oh I know, I was just stating that fact :p
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    Hm Am i the only one that LOVES OOTP and enjoyed it more than Half Blood Prince which was Half blood prince made in aspect of editing colouring cinematography and etc better made?
    I understand the colouring; you may prefer the blues over the browns and greens, but I think HBP cinematography > OotP cinematography
    Yeah in those aspect HBP BEATS OOTP easly. But I purely enjoyed ootp more than Hbp..Which I dont know why....
    That's because HBP forgets to tell the story. OOTP doesn't.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Yates its pretty good Actually...But some scenes are really rushed...And thatfucking mark day cant fucking edit,.
    He can edit. He can also edit well at some points...others, not so much. It all balances out. Parts 1 nor 2 felt rushed nor drawn out to the brink of exhaustion.

    Not as an editor of merit, he can't. The best he does is when he just lets a scene be, he is not a maestro of editing, and i hope other films don't have the misfortune of him working on it.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes I think people give him too much credit. And forget that he was hired by Warner Bros. and that he answered to the producers.
    And sometimes I think producers get too much credit. Yes they hire most everyone, but the overall shape, look, feel, and flow of the movie belongs to the director. Well, not entirely, but he/she is definitely most responsible.
    We are talking about a saga, not a regular movie.

    Besides money issues, why do you think WB decided to hire an unknown and inexperienced director to shoot one of the most famous saga's in filmmaking history?
    WB lost money after Order of the Phoenix, so, it's possibly, but I'm quite glad they did that! I really like Yates.

    Oh, and don't think OotP lost money. It made 900+ million. Warner Bros. lost money. So silly... :p
    They did lose money, in profits or something of the sort. They lost over a 100 million.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Did it have to do with original budgets? HBP's budget was $250 million, one of the most expensive of all time, and I think the main reason was to accommodate all the actor's wages.
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  • the best director ever :-bd
  • PopkinPopkin Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭
    Yep. The one thing about Yates movies is that almost every magical aspect of the wizarding world is brushed off and taken for granted with next to no explanation. I have mixed feelings about this. Aggravated because non-readers will be confused, excited because there's more room for small homages to the novels, relieved because there won't be long, droning explanations of EVERY LITTLE THING like in Columbus' films, and happy, because it makes the world feel a little more real.
    Wow...that's actually an accurate, fantastic summarization of emotions =D>
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the best director ever :-bd
    Bullshit. Have you ever made sense?

    Lord Stafford.
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  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    the best director ever :-bd
    Bullshit. Have you ever made sense?

    Lord Stafford.
    =))
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    :-|

    Lord Stafford.
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  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    What? I was laughing at your accurate description of Aaronpotter. :-/
  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    the best director ever :-bd
    Bullshit. Have you ever made sense?

    Lord Stafford.
    =))
    Best director in Hp series yes.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What? I was laughing at your accurate description of Aaronpotter. :-/
    :)>-

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the best director ever :-bd
    Bullshit. Have you ever made sense?

    Lord Stafford.
    =))
    Best director in Hp series yes.
    Did he say that? Take another look.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    the best director ever :-bd
    Bullshit. Have you ever made sense?

    Lord Stafford.
    =))
    Best director in Hp series yes.
    Did he say that? Take another look.

    Lord Stafford.
    I know what he said but i was correcting he is only best in hp...
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's subjective.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's subjective.

    Lord Stafford.
    it is but you also think newell is better than yates :-&
    Did i ever say that?

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
    No, i didn't. :-w

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, i didn't. :-w

    Lord Stafford.
    Yeah you did. Remember when we were discussing it a while back?
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, if i did, i must have been shitfaced drunk. Often you have accused me of saying something without properly backing it up, i would like to see evidence. Then we could (if you wish) deliberate whether i was pissed or not, but you will lose, because i know Newell isn't better than Yates... and even if i thought so, that wouldn't make me wrong, as it's all subjective.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although there are many Yates fans on this forum, I imagine overall they're in the minority, with the larger per cent of fans preferring Columbus and Newell's films. Just thought I'd put that out there lol, does anyone agree or disagree?
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