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What didn't really make sense to me...

JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 2011 in General
So wait, did Voldemort forget Harry is one of his horcruxes, but he killed him. I never really understood that, did he forget that he was a horcrux?

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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Voldemort never knew harry was a horcrux.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    So wait, did Voldemort forget Harry is one of his horcruxes, but he killed him. I never really understood that, did he forget that he was a horcrux?
    Harry is referred to as the 'accidental Horcrux'. The inhumane murder of the Potters was so evil that Voldemorts soul split, on it's own, and latched itself onto the only living *person* in the room.
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    Mysterious thing time.
  • LizLiz Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭✭
    ^ What Rich said :)
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Voldemort never knew harry was a horcrux.
    Rotfl
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    Mysterious thing time.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    ^ What Rich said :)
    :)
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Voldemort never knew harry was a horcrux.
    Rotfl
    ?
  • JoshieJoshie Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, now I get it.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure some other act has to be performed once the piece of the soul has been placed in the object in order for it to be officially deemed a horcrux.
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  • Marie_AnetteMarie_Anette Posts: 3,506
    If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure some other act has to be performed once the piece of the soul has been placed in the object in order for it to be officially deemed a horcrux.
    yes, it's a pretty intricate process as far as I know.
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  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    Cathy its definitely an intricate process.... the only thing that occurs naturally is the tearing of the soul, once a murder is committed. Then kind of extracting it from inside, then "encasing it", followed by some charm or spell ( the act that you mentioned) that coverts it from - "a soul inside a magical object" to a "horcrux".
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder what he would do if he found out. I saw a hilarious picture of him protecting him in a bubble together with Nagini and spoon-feeding him.
  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wasn't Voldemort planning to make Harry his 7th horcrux at he start? So he already did whatever you have to do, but when the spell rebounded, Voldemort didn't realize the horcrux was made regardless of him degrading into nothing.
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  • Marie_AnetteMarie_Anette Posts: 3,506
    I wonder what he would do if he found out. I saw a hilarious picture of him protecting him in a bubble together with Nagini and spoon-feeding him.
    thissss
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  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    Wasn't Voldemort planning to make Harry his 7th horcrux at he start? So he already did whatever you have to do, but when the spell rebounded, Voldemort didn't realize the horcrux was made regardless of him degrading into nothing.
    We must look to Dumbledore's words in the King's Cross Chapter Jason ,and this is what he says:

    "You were the seventh horcrux harry. A horcrux he never meant to make"
  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I mean, I remember there was something explaining that he was going to make him a horcrux if everything went to plan. Since the spell rebounded though, he unknowingly made Harry a horcrux anyways since he already had the preparations set. So technically, he never meant to make him one at the end, but it still happened.

    Idk. :P
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  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    Wasn't Voldemort planning to make Harry his 7th horcrux at he start? So he already did whatever you have to do, but when the spell rebounded, Voldemort didn't realize the horcrux was made regardless of him degrading into nothing.
    Actually, Jason, Voldemort was planning on making his 6th horcrux with Harry's murder, and thereby having his soul split into seven pieces.

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  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    Wasn't Voldemort planning to make Harry his 7th horcrux at he start? So he already did whatever you have to do, but when the spell rebounded, Voldemort didn't realize the horcrux was made regardless of him degrading into nothing.
    Actually, Jason, Voldemort was planning on making his 6th horcrux with Harry's murder, and thereby having his soul split into seven pieces.

    So Cathy, when Dumbledore says the words which I wrote above, did he mean:
    1) A seventh horcrux which he never meant to make???
    OR
    2)Harry as horcrux which he never meant to make???

    You understood what I am asking???? Just getting a little confused.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭


    So Cathy, when Dumbledore says the words which I wrote above, did he mean:
    1) A seventh horcrux which he never meant to make???
    OR
    2)Harry as horcrux which he never meant to make???

    You understood what I am asking???? Just getting a little confused.
    I believe both would be synonymous with each other.

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    Pottermore user name: SilverQuest212
  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    So that means that he never intended to make a seventh horcrux. But you say that he was planning to make his 6th(final) horcrux with harry, which he did. So how come Harry became the seventh horcrux ???? :O I am sorry I am leaving some bit of info out i think...i cant get it.
  • PumpkinjuicePumpkinjuice Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He did not plan to place a piece of his soul into the boy, but maybe he intended to make another horcrux by killing him and put it into another object.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    He did not plan to place a piece of his soul into the boy, but maybe he intended to make another horcrux by killing him and put it into another object.
    Yes, that is it, Pumpkinjuice.

    Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive.

    Pottermore user name: SilverQuest212
  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    Yayyy...got it... :) Thanks PJ and Cathy.
  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He did not plan to place a piece of his soul into the boy, but maybe he intended to make another horcrux by killing him and put it into another object.
    Oh.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    I know it's late, but... Voldemort never meant to make Harry a Horcrux. Sure, he did mean to make one, his last and most important one with Harry's death, but never to make the boy himself a Horcrux. He always intended to have a 'seven part soul' as 'seven' was supposed to be the most powerful magic number. He wanted to have six separate from the soul in his body Horcruxes, with the main one that kept him completely alive, in his body.

    Like they said... you had to destroy the six and then get to Voldemort himself to truly be able to destroy the Dark Lord. But he never made six... he made seven. However unintentional this was, he ended up with an eight part soul.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • AbhishekAbhishek Posts: 4,233 ✭✭✭✭
    Staff first of all it is not very late, it was just 2/3 days ago... :)
    And secondly thank you for giving your perspective.... you are right of course... :)
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    Then, i'll edit it. But we're not supposed to bump non active threads, you know.

    Lord Stafford.
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