Seriously, what is the issue with diversity of opinion.

Braveheart

I have never once complained about a positive opinion. I respect the opinion but have my own individual opinion. The problem people on this forum with positive opinions seem to have is that they struggle with the idea that anyone could have an opinion other than themselves. Many of them seem unwilling to respect this opinion and debate their differences in opinion. Instead they prefer to shove their fingers in their ears and shout loudly. It is incredibly narrow-minded and immature to think that you're only a "true Potter fan" if you have a positive opinion. They whine and moan and complain that anyone could possibly have an opinion different from there own.

Here's the rub. Opions DIFFER ok people? That is what the whole concept of opinions is about. Trying to suppress negative opinions just removes the idea of opinion completely, or do you people not like the idea of opinions? Would you rather be forced or intimidated or hounded into thinking a certain way.

Seriously, it's ridiculous. Just accept that fact and you'll all be much happier.

chace483

It's not about having a different opinion, an opinion is totally accpetable. It's when you start uneccessary threads like these, that when it gets annoying.

Nick

lol

Martin1

No problem with a different opinion, but when you constantly state that negative opinion over and over and over again on nearly every thread, it tends to bring the mood down and it's annoying.

Accio_Log

I am one whp respects all pinions about something good or bad. I agree that saying if you have a negative opinion you arent a tru potter fan is silly.

However, negativity has a much greater impact on the minds of people than positivity. Thats a fact. While I want people to be open and honest I also want people to be happy. Many people have said numerous times that they don't want to hear the negative stuff. An adult with respect for people would honor this and go somewhere else to discuss it (i.e. make another thread for it). These are the last few days of HP in the movies and we don't want them spoiled by negative stuff.

By the way this thread is a little hypocritical. You say you want people to respect the opinions of others yet you don't appreciate them saying what they are saying about the negative stuff. Lets please keep the negatives to a minimum and out of sight for the sake of the forum?

chace483

Haha, seriously, who can close this? This is just such a waste of coding, lol

Braveheart

No problem with a different opinion, but when you constantly state that negative opinion over and over and over again on nearly every thread, it tends to bring the mood down and it's annoying.

The flipside is true. With all these people assuming the movie will be great without having seen it first. If we didn't make assumptions from what we've seen then many of us would have little or nothing to talk about.

Braveheart

Haha, seriously, who can close this? This is just such a waste of coding, lol

When people are being hounded for not worshipping the movie before they have seen it, yeah, don't really see how I've not got a point chace. I know it's uncomfortable for you that not everyone is hailing the movie as amazing before seeing it but that's just how life is. Deal with it.

Accio_Log

No problem with a different opinion, but when you constantly state that negative opinion over and over and over again on nearly every thread, it tends to bring the mood down and it's annoying.

The flipside is true. With all these people assuming the movie will be great without having seen it first. If we didn't make assumptions from what we've seen then many of us would have little or nothing to talk about.

Again, the difference is positivity is good for everyone and negativity isn't good for anyone. Especially when it is repeated over and over and over and over....

Braveheart

By the way this thread is a little hypocritical. You say you want people to respect the opinions of others yet you don't appreciate them saying what they are saying about the negative stuff. Lets please keep the negatives to a minimum and out of sight for the sake of the forum?

=D>

Actually they are not expressing an opinion, they are TELLING people not to think this or not to think that. An opinion is not when somebody TELLS somebody to think something.

Accio_Log

Haha, seriously, who can close this? This is just such a waste of coding, lol

When people are being hounded for not worshipping the movie before they have seen it, yeah, don't really see how I've not got a point chace. I know it's uncomfortable for you that not everyone is hailing the movie as amazing before seeing it but that's just how life is. Deal with it.

People aren't hounding you and what they are doing isn't because you arent worshipping its because you are being negative with almost every post. That gets really really old.

Nick

umm i think im going to close this thread its just going to lead to fights? thoughts on this?

Accio_Log

By the way this thread is a little hypocritical. You say you want people to respect the opinions of others yet you don't appreciate them saying what they are saying about the negative stuff. Lets please keep the negatives to a minimum and out of sight for the sake of the forum?

=D>

Actually they are not expressing an opinion, they are TELLING people not to think this or not to think that. An opinion is not when somebody TELLS somebody to think something.

Their opinion is that they don't want to hear negative stuff because they don't like it. Not different from this thread.

TheEightHorcrux

lol at this thread

Braveheart

No problem with a different opinion, but when you constantly state that negative opinion over and over and over again on nearly every thread, it tends to bring the mood down and it's annoying.

The flipside is true. With all these people assuming the movie will be great without having seen it first. If we didn't make assumptions from what we've seen then many of us would have little or nothing to talk about.

Again, the difference is positivity is good for everyone and negativity isn't good for anyone. Especially when it is repeated over and over and over and over....

Well that's an opinion, isn't it. Positivity might not be good because hypothetically it could set up people's expectations too high and leave them disappointed, whereas the odd negative opinion might bring down their anticipation which in turn might make them mindblown by the movie. Different opinions again, eh?
;-)

Accio_Log

umm i think im going to close this thread its just going to lead to fights? thoughts on this?

I dont think thats a bad idea.

I have lots of other thoughts too but they aren't nice so I'll keep them to myself.

Nick

umm i think im going to close this thread its just going to lead to fights? thoughts on this?

No

ok no problem sorry just trying to help

Accio_Log

No problem with a different opinion, but when you constantly state that negative opinion over and over and over again on nearly every thread, it tends to bring the mood down and it's annoying.

The flipside is true. With all these people assuming the movie will be great without having seen it first. If we didn't make assumptions from what we've seen then many of us would have little or nothing to talk about.

Again, the difference is positivity is good for everyone and negativity isn't good for anyone. Especially when it is repeated over and over and over and over....

Well that's an opinion, isn't it. Positivity might not be good because hypothetically it could set up people's expectations too high and leave them disappointed, whereas the odd negative opinion might bring down their anticipation which in turn might make them mindblown by the movie. Different opinions again, eh?
;-)

Positivity is good for everyone. FACT.

Negativity isn't good for everyone. Changed and now... FACT.

chace483

Haha, seriously, who can close this? This is just such a waste of coding, lol

When people are being hounded for not worshipping the movie before they have seen it, yeah, don't really see how I've not got a point chace. I know it's uncomfortable for you that not everyone is hailing the movie as amazing before seeing it but that's just how life is. Deal with it.

Okay, whatever. I don't care if you guys are excited for this film or not, but you, "Braveheart" are the one who asked all the questions and I gave you the answers when i could. I loved this film and you're not in a postion to judge anything becuase you haven't seen it yet.

Braveheart

By the way this thread is a little hypocritical. You say you want people to respect the opinions of others yet you don't appreciate them saying what they are saying about the negative stuff. Lets please keep the negatives to a minimum and out of sight for the sake of the forum?

=D>

Actually they are not expressing an opinion, they are TELLING people not to think this or not to think that. An opinion is not when somebody TELLS somebody to think something.

Their opinion is that they don't want to hear negative stuff because they don't like it. Not different from this thread.

Except that I never tell people what to think, or tell them to stop thinking positively, right.

Braveheart

Yeah... we want to hear positive things so that when we go see the movie we will be happy going into it. That is why people read good reviews, which by the way this has had a LOT of AMAZING reviews.

HBP was heavily criticised in many of its reviews and yet you love that? Reviews are again, just opinions. But if you are so badly affected by negativity then your opinion must not be too solid in the fist place.

Accio_Log

By the way this thread is a little hypocritical. You say you want people to respect the opinions of others yet you don't appreciate them saying what they are saying about the negative stuff. Lets please keep the negatives to a minimum and out of sight for the sake of the forum?

=D>

Actually they are not expressing an opinion, they are TELLING people not to think this or not to think that. An opinion is not when somebody TELLS somebody to think something.

Their opinion is that they don't want to hear negative stuff because they don't like it. Not different from this thread.

Except that I never tell people what to think, or tell them to stop thinking positively, right.

Orly?

"Seriously, it's ridiculous. Just accept that fact and you'll all be much happier."

Braveheart

Well there you are then. Other people's opinions are just what they thought, that doesn't mean you will think the same or anything.

Braveheart

Yes Accio, I never told them to stop being so positive, I never told anyone to hate the movie.

Accio_Log

Well there you are then. Other people's opinions are just what they thought, that doesn't mean you will think the same or anything.

You are complaining that people are asking you to not be so negative and you are asking them not be so negative toward you about your opinion. Case closed.

Lets let Braveheart have his whining and moaning thread.

Accio_Log

Yes Accio, I never told them to stop being so positive, I never told anyone to hate the movie.

You told them to accept it. Thats telling them what to do.

Braveheart

I told them to accept that opinions are diverse. That is a fact. You told me positivity being good for everyone is a...FACT. So if I'm in the wrong, you are equally so.

Mac

giving negative opinions doesnt make him that he is not true fan..You dont have to agree with his opinion but just respect it........

Ash

I agree with the OP.

Braveheart

Well there you are then. Other people's opinions are just what they thought, that doesn't mean you will think the same or anything.

You are complaining that people are asking you to not be so negative and you are asking them not be so negative toward you about your opinion. Case closed.

Lets let Braveheart have his whining and moaning thread.

Well I did try to do it nicely but apparently you can't be as accepting of other's opinions which is not yours. Ok, that's fine, just don't expect me to hide my opinion, good or bad, while other people's opinions are treated as superior.

TheEightHorcrux

Luckily I have dodged all of Bravehearts posts!

Richard

what is going on here?

Accio_Log

I told them to accept that opinions are diverse. That is a fact. You told me positivity being good for everyone is a...FACT. So if I'm in the wrong, you are equally so.

You told them what to think by telling them to do so. That is hypocritical.

I havent been nearly as negative on the scale that you have been. Me trying to combat your attitude is the only "negative" think I have done, if you want to call it that.

Have fun thinking certain parts will suck. Hopefully it doesn't ruin the movie going experience for you. If it does you only have yourself to blame.

Braveheart

what is going on here?

A call for tolerance of other's opinions on the movie. Positive or negative, everyone has the right to an opinion which they can broadcast with equal openness.

Richard

what is going on here?

A call for tolerance of other's opinions on the movie. Positive or negative, everyone has the right to an opinion which they can broadcast with equal openness.

ah ok.

Braveheart

I told them to accept that opinions are diverse. That is a fact. You told me positivity being good for everyone is a...FACT. So if I'm in the wrong, you are equally so.

You told them what to think by telling them to do so. That is hypocritical.

I havent been nearly as negative on the scale that you have been. Me trying to combat your attitude is the only "negative" think I have done, if you want to call it that.

Have fun thinking certain parts will suck. Hopefully it doesn't ruin the movie going experience for you. If it does you only have yourself to blame.

I was saying it was hypocritical for you to determine certain things as fact if I was not allowed to do so.

Accio_Log

Well there you are then. Other people's opinions are just what they thought, that doesn't mean you will think the same or anything.

You are complaining that people are asking you to not be so negative and you are asking them not be so negative toward you about your opinion. Case closed.

Lets let Braveheart have his whining and moaning thread.

Well I did try to do it nicely but apparently you can't be as accepting of other's opinions which is not yours. Ok, that's fine, just don't expect me to hide my opinion, good or bad, while other people's opinions are treated as superior.

Trying to do it nicely is not what was done with this thread. If you don't like the stuff coming at you because of your opinions then don't perpetuate it by starting a thread describing how much you don't like it. Did you actually expect a good reaction from this thread?

I am accepting of your opinion. I have been nothing but. I do not agree and I respect your right to express it. However, I have requested that for the forum's sake you post it elsewhere. Thats not me disrespecting or being unnaccepting of your opinion. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I don't accept it.

You can express your opinion negative or positive but don't ask people to hide their thoughts on your negativity.

Accio_Log

I told them to accept that opinions are diverse. That is a fact. You told me positivity being good for everyone is a...FACT. So if I'm in the wrong, you are equally so.

You told them what to think by telling them to do so. That is hypocritical.

I havent been nearly as negative on the scale that you have been. Me trying to combat your attitude is the only "negative" think I have done, if you want to call it that.

Have fun thinking certain parts will suck. Hopefully it doesn't ruin the movie going experience for you. If it does you only have yourself to blame.

I was saying it was hypocritical for you to determine certain things as fact if I was not allowed to do so.

You can express that you believe that my statements are not fact. Me disagreeing with you is not hypocritical. Me claiming things as fact that you do not does not make me a hypocrite.

Braveheart

Wait so now you're saying I should expect people to hide their thoughts on my negativity, yet you were telling me I should hide my opinion in "negative threads" and not have the freedom to post them in the threads I want? Yeah, not at all hypocritical that.

Oh and by "stuff coming at me" for having a negative opinion, do you mean people like you telling me to suppress it, or hide it in certain threads, or that I'm not a real fan? Yes, that is just the sort of accepting behaviour you have shown.

chester

To everyone: DON'T PANIC. You will see, it's a good movie.

Accio_Log

Wait so now you're saying I should expect people to hide their thoughts on my negativity, yet you were telling me I should hide my opinion in "negative threads" and not have the freedom to post them in the threads I want? Yeah, not at all hypocritical that.

Oh and by "stuff coming at me" for having a negative opinion, do you mean people like you telling me to suppress it, or hide it in certain threads, or that I'm not a real fan? Yes, that is just the sort of accepting behaviour you have shown.

I am not telling you to do anything. I am asking for the sake of the thread. I have also said go ahead and post what you want. You have the right to do so and I havent said otherwise.

If you want to be able to express your opinions then expect people to be able to do the same. That is what I am saying. I never said do this or do that. I asked Braveheart. There is a difference. If you can't read that in my posts thats not my fault.


I also have not said you arent a true fan and that I disagreed with the people saying so.

I am one whp respects all pinions about something good or bad. I agree that saying if you have a negative opinion you arent a tru potter fan is silly.

Martin1

Braveheart

To everyone: DON'T PANIC. You will see, it's a good movie.

You'll notice I never said the whole movie would be bad. I just referred to specific areas which may fall below expectation. ;-)

chester

To everyone: DON'T PANIC. You will see, it's a good movie.

You'll notice I never said the whole movie would be bad. I just referred to specific areas which may fall below expectation. ;-)

There will always be things fans don't like. That's so interesting about being a fan. As long as it keeps friendly( btw, i don't blame anyone with this sentence).

Martin1

To everyone: DON'T PANIC. You will see, it's a good movie.

You'll notice I never said the whole movie would be bad. I just referred to specific areas which may fall below expectation. ;-)

Then change for a bit and talk about areas exceeding your expectations or areas you like. Why have I not argued for example blackvenom? He gave his reasons why he was disappointed, he's ACTUALLY SEEN IT, but there are multiple things he liked and talks about those as well.

Braveheart

Well then I stand corrected Accio, which I am glad to admit. I was under the impression you had told me to do that, but I misread your post. Though I actually never meant you saying people weren't true Potter fans.

chester

@irlkg: you're totally right!

Accio_Log

Well then I stand corrected Accio, which I am glad to admit. I was under the impression you had told me to do that, but I misread your post. Though I actually never meant you saying people weren't true Potter fans.

No worries man. I just want this to be a happy place where everyone has the freedoms that we all want.

Braveheart

To everyone: DON'T PANIC. You will see, it's a good movie.

You'll notice I never said the whole movie would be bad. I just referred to specific areas which may fall below expectation. ;-)

Then change for a bit and talk about areas exceeding your expectations or areas you like. Why have I not argued for example blackvenom? He gave his reasons why he was disappointed, he's ACTUALLY SEEN IT, but there are multiple things he liked and talks about those as well.

Gringotts looks like it certainly exceeds the book, and from the looks of things the Dragon flight has been handled better than I could have hoped for. I am pleasantly surprised that we at least hear references to Dumbledore's history, and I am glad all the big scenes like the Prince's tale and Harry's forest walk seem to have been handled wonderfully. I am glad they did not cut the Lavender scene and in fact improved on it from the book. As a matter of fact, I feel strangely horrified - in a good way - by the fact that Lavender dies so brutally when she was such an innocuous, comedic character, and that really affects me for some reason.

Does that perhaps please you?

Onset23

By all means have an opinion! But watch the damn thing before you mouth off about it

Nick

thank you onset!!!