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For once and for all! DH2 is a great movie! + opinion after seeing it the second time.

chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 2011 in General
For once and for all! DH2 is a great movie! It has its flaws yes, but which movie doesn't?!

Yes, you don't see that much of the battle itself (like 5 minutes of the 'real' battle, the courtyard scene and the beginning of the battle, before the forbidden forest scenes) but meanwhile you see other action scenes like the RoR-scene or the CoS-scene(it's not fully an action scene, but still a very good scene). Before that you have a good gringotts scene(wonderfuly acted by Helena) and after the procession you have like 7 or 8 minutes of action. In total you see like 8 minutes of destruction and 'real' war(the 5 minutes, clock tower, bridge scene,...).

All the technical stuff(visual effects, soundtrack, cinematography) is outstanding. The acting is very good. But yes, some actors didn't have much to do (emma and Helena). I would have liked to see more Bellatrix and Tonks but overall the characters were well used.

I liked how Bellatrix and Voldemort died. It was so symbolic. Especially Bellatrix's dead. She was a woman with a stone heart. Molly made some sort of a 'statue' from her and then blasted her to pieces. Just what Bellatrix deserved. Voldemort ripped his soul in so many pieces that it is quite realistic for hem to 'vanish'. Every piece was destroyed, then his powers turned against him, then he became ashes and dissapeared. Also well deserved for Voldemort.

So stop complaining! I saw the movie once but i'm sure i will like it even better the second time i see it.

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  • Indeed, I'm sickened by reading some of the comments from the other topics. Why can't people just wait to see the damn film itself rather than rush to conclusions. You guys deserve to get Crucio'd!
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  • GodricGryffindorGodricGryffindor Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you, so much.
    These are the kind of
    posts that remind me
    how AMAZING DH2 will
    be :)

    G.G.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is 'the Princes Tale' good?
    Stunning and beautiful as the critics say?
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  • Lord_DarkeyesLord_Darkeyes Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭✭
    Roger Ebert's review def. cheers me up!

    I'm glad you liked it, Chester!
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is 'the Princes Tale' good?
    Stunning and beautiful as the critics say?
    Yes, it looks a bit weird but everything is clear. The climax of the Prince's Tale is Snape finding Lilly's body.
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Roger Ebert's review def. cheers me up!

    I'm glad you liked it, Chester!
    I expected the Battle exactly to be like it was in the movie. You see some good stuff of it, but you followed the characters on their 'mission' and where David Yates could, he showed us the Battle. A good example of it is the Luna and Helena Ravenclow scene. You follow their mission and you see some glimpses of the battle. The same with the neville scene. He was on his mission and you saw some scenes of the Battle.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you! Now all these battle complaints won't bother me.
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i dont doubt its amazing, and im gonna love it
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This will be the best film of all the Harry Potter films. I haven't seen it yet, and it will be how I predicted. Anywhere from 9.5/10 to 10/10. There is nothing I haven't heard I don't like. I don't care about what is not in the film. I care what is and how it portrayed and adapted. That is why I will love this film.
    THANK YOU!

  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This will be the best film of all the Harry Potter films. I haven't seen it yet, and it will be how I predicted. Anywhere from 9.5/10 to 10/10. There is nothing I haven't heard I don't like. I don't care about what is not in the film. I care what is and how it portrayed and adapted. That is why I will love this film.
    You just don't have to think you'll see 20 minutes of the 'real' Battle itself. The characters have so much to do. David Yates showed us as much as possible within the runtime.
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there any good montages?
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    Mysterious thing time.
  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I forgot to tell: The whole Gringotts scene is one of the best of the whole saga. It has everything: good acting, good action, good cinematography, good special effects,...

    The same for the courtyard apocalypse.
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  • GodricGryffindorGodricGryffindor Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This made me so
    much more excited
    for the film. The
    POSITIVITY and GREATNESS
    is back!!!


    BTW, I'm watching OOTP UE
    DOCUMENTARY: Evolution and
    it's truly AMAZING.


    G.G.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Chester, I don't quite remember. Wasn't the final shot of the Prince's Tale the Doe in the forest? Was it Snape holding Lily?
  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there any good montages?
    Yes, the courtyard apocalyps is sort of a montage: you see spiders attacking people, giants, Oliver wood, regular fighting,...
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chester, I don't quite remember. Wasn't the final shot of the Prince's Tale the Doe in the forest? Was it Snape holding Lily?
    I don't quite remember either. I think it was the doe.
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And i also want to tell is that it isn't because the deaths of Bellatrix and Voldemort are a bit weird, that it is a bad movie. Their death scenes are quite symbolic as i told in the first post.
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  • This will be the best film of all the Harry Potter films. I haven't seen it yet, and it will be how I predicted. Anywhere from 9.5/10 to 10/10. There is nothing I haven't heard I don't like. I don't care about what is not in the film. I care what is and how it portrayed and adapted. That is why I will love this film.



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  • ydnar92ydnar92 Posts: 168
    One of my favorite movies like I've said before :D
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  • JeanneJeanne Posts: 124
    man anybody who stays full on negativity in the last days before the release of the final movie doesnt deserve to be considered a Harry Potter fan.
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  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    Well I'm glad for you liking it, but haven't we always been told in the past that movies and books are different mediums? Huh, well to go back on that to try and justify the final battle being like the book seems like a contradiction.

    I say again - it's not about mindless explosions, it's about seeing all these characters pitted in a battle for their lives after so long building up to it. And incidentally, if you'd expected it to be like the book, you would have expected us to see practically every character get their moment in the battle, and for us to see Fred's death onscreen. Just saying. I mean, there is a whole chapter in the book of Harry running through the battle and fighting in all these locations as he tries to find Voldemort. And that isn't even the chapter entitled "The Battle of Hogwarts", where he also does some fighting in the battle. I think people are just trying to downplay the battle in the book now, like happened with HBP too.

    Really, I don't see why it bothers you that people might not like certain things. Nobody has said the movie will be atrocious because of this. Just that certain parts might not live up to expectation, an expectation Yates and co are certainly guilty of talking up.
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    man anybody who stays full on negativity in the last days before the release of the final movie doesnt deserve to be considered a Harry Potter fan.
    And why is that? Are Harry Potter fans not allowed to express opinions? Are we all to conform to the idea that no matter how a movie turns out, if it is of the Harry Potter brand it can not be wrong? Right. Idiot.
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    This will be the best film of all the Harry Potter films. I haven't seen it yet, and it will be how I predicted. Anywhere from 9.5/10 to 10/10. There is nothing I haven't heard I don't like. I don't care about what is not in the film. I care what is and how it portrayed and adapted. That is why I will love this film.
    Yes yes, very nice. Except...weren't you lecturing people for pre-empting the movie negatively. This is completely hypocritical and undermines your argument. If you're going to make positive assumptions before seeing the movie, you have no right to lecture others on any negative assumptions they may or may not make.

  • HinkypunkHinkypunk Posts: 385
    man anybody who stays full on negativity in the last days before the release of the final movie doesnt deserve to be considered a Harry Potter fan.
    And why is that? Are Harry Potter fans not allowed to express opinions? Are we all to conform to the idea that no matter how a movie turns out, if it is of the Harry Potter brand it can not be wrong? Right. Idiot.
    She has the right to her opinion just like you do. Although I did not see her resort to name calling. Sometimes, immaturity reigns supreme.

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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This will be the best film of all the Harry Potter films. I haven't seen it yet, and it will be how I predicted. Anywhere from 9.5/10 to 10/10. There is nothing I haven't heard I don't like. I don't care about what is not in the film. I care what is and how it portrayed and adapted. That is why I will love this film.
    Yes yes, very nice. Except...weren't you lecturing people for pre-empting the movie negatively. This is completely hypocritical and undermines your argument. If you're going to make positive assumptions before seeing the movie, you have no right to lecture others on any negative assumptions they may or may not make.

    Oh do shut it. You have been more negative than positive so I'd expect you to say exactly that. To prove it, why are others saying they like what I said and you are the only one questioning it?
    =D>
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    There is a difference between negative and positive views based on assumptions though Braveheart. Negativity brings people down and this forum doesn't want that stuff. Positivity is what brings this community together. I suggest a thread titles "what I didn't like" or "what doesn't sound good" for all the negative spouting off. That way if people want to avoid it they can. Every thread doesn't need to be bogged down by the comments about the battle that only a handful of people here have seen
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  • JeanneJeanne Posts: 124
    man anybody who stays full on negativity in the last days before the release of the final movie doesnt deserve to be considered a Harry Potter fan.
    And why is that? Are Harry Potter fans not allowed to express opinions? Are we all to conform to the idea that no matter how a movie turns out, if it is of the Harry Potter brand it can not be wrong? Right. Idiot.

    you sound like the idiot one here, after all you didnt get what i mean.

    who saw the movie, ok, thats their opinion...

    now who is full on negativity without having watched it days before the release = doesnt deserve to be considered a fan



    you need to keep in mind that this negativity is contagious, if a few say that they were disappointed, if the ones that have not watched it start to spread negativity, it will look like its the worst thing ever imo.


    negativity is way easier to spread than positivity, doing this you are harming your own fandom without even having certain if its really bad.


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  • JeanneJeanne Posts: 124
    man anybody who stays full on negativity in the last days before the release of the final movie doesnt deserve to be considered a Harry Potter fan.
    And why is that? Are Harry Potter fans not allowed to express opinions? Are we all to conform to the idea that no matter how a movie turns out, if it is of the Harry Potter brand it can not be wrong? Right. Idiot.
    She has the right to her opinion just like you do. Although I did not see her resort to name calling. Sometimes, immaturity reigns supreme.

    ty. xD



    anyways thats basically this: once you spread negativity without having watched it, you are ruining it for the fandom, so yeah, you dont deserve to be considered a Harry Potter Fan.


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  • HinkypunkHinkypunk Posts: 385
    edited July 2011
    Just remind them that it's called ' Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows " , not " Harry Potter and the Battle of Hogwarts ". Although that is a title Jo considered at one time, she ultimately decided that is not where she wanted the focus to be.
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  • vrajvraj Posts: 485
    Just remind them that it's called ' Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows " , not " Harry Potter and the Battle of Hogwarts ". Although that is a title Jo considered at one time, she ultimately decided that is not where she wanted the focus to be.
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  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    Just remind them that it's called ' Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows " , not " Harry Potter and the Battle of Hogwarts ". Although that is a title Jo considered at one time, she ultimately decided that is not where she wanted the focus to be.
    Oh so the Hallows story is wrapped up nicely is it? :)

    As for you, Jeanne, the only reason you would be affected by my opinion is if your opinion isn't strong enough in the first place. It's not my fault if I express a negative opinion that dampens your positivity, I don't go out of my way to bring people down. If they are brought down it is their own fault for being too easy to sway and lacking solid opinions.
  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    This will be the best film of all the Harry Potter films. I haven't seen it yet, and it will be how I predicted. Anywhere from 9.5/10 to 10/10. There is nothing I haven't heard I don't like. I don't care about what is not in the film. I care what is and how it portrayed and adapted. That is why I will love this film.
    Yes yes, very nice. Except...weren't you lecturing people for pre-empting the movie negatively. This is completely hypocritical and undermines your argument. If you're going to make positive assumptions before seeing the movie, you have no right to lecture others on any negative assumptions they may or may not make.

    Oh do shut it. You have been more negative than positive so I'd expect you to say exactly that. To prove it, why are others saying they like what I said and you are the only one questioning it?
    Oh yes, such a great way to prove your point, because a great many people agree. Let's see, many people are Christians, but does that mean they are right? Many people are athiests, does that mean they are right? No, where it comes to opinion, there is no right or wrong, a concept you seem to have difficulty grasping. It was a very hypocritical response, even you have to see that.

    EDIT - and Accio, I'm sorry that people just want positivity, but it's like life and death isn't it? You can't have one without the other. Only being positive is just as narrow as just being negative. Opinions differ, people shouldn't be intimidated into hiding their opinions purely on the basis of being scared people won't agree.

  • BraveheartBraveheart Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Braveheart since you brought up religion I am not going to answer you. What a completely wrong way to go in a forum like this.
    I did not bring it up disrespectfully. You will notice I mentioned both Atheism and Christianity to prove my point; I encompassed both sides without demonising or chamioning either, therefore that argument just comes off as a weak excuse to evade admitting that you are trying to dictate people's opinions for them.

  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just restore peace please. This was like the only positive thread here. Keep it that way!
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OH GOD ANOTHER ONE!! Where can i go to find refuge from the negativity?
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    This will be the best film of all the Harry Potter films. I haven't seen it yet, and it will be how I predicted. Anywhere from 9.5/10 to 10/10. There is nothing I haven't heard I don't like. I don't care about what is not in the film. I care what is and how it portrayed and adapted. That is why I will love this film.
    Yes yes, very nice. Except...weren't you lecturing people for pre-empting the movie negatively. This is completely hypocritical and undermines your argument. If you're going to make positive assumptions before seeing the movie, you have no right to lecture others on any negative assumptions they may or may not make.

    Oh do shut it. You have been more negative than positive so I'd expect you to say exactly that. To prove it, why are others saying they like what I said and you are the only one questioning it?
    Oh yes, such a great way to prove your point, because a great many people agree. Let's see, many people are Christians, but does that mean they are right? Many people are athiests, does that mean they are right? No, where it comes to opinion, there is no right or wrong, a concept you seem to have difficulty grasping. It was a very hypocritical response, even you have to see that.

    EDIT - and Accio, I'm sorry that people just want positivity, but it's like life and death isn't it? You can't have one without the other. Only being positive is just as narrow as just being negative. Opinions differ, people shouldn't be intimidated into hiding their opinions purely on the basis of being scared people won't agree.

    I didn't say people didn't have the right to express negative comments. However, what good does the negativity do in this situation? It has taken down every single thread on the topic. I don't mind reading others opinions but please, as a favor, keep the negatives to a seperate thread made for negative stuff. People are hanging on the good and the bad right now. Some people have high expectations and that is throwing them one way or another as far as excited or dissapointed without even seeing it. However, while it is up to them how they let stuff effect them all it takes is for one person to throw a negative comment in the mix and the thread is garbage. I want to read the positives and not the negatives. If you expect bad then expect bad. But dont be surprised when I say it is dumb for expecting the bad when you havent seen the film in its entirety. You have been here long enough to know what negative comments do to people. Please just let the people who don't want to hear or see the pessimistic shit read a thread without throwing it in.
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  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    OH GOD ANOTHER ONE!! Where can i go to find refuge from the negativity?
    Exactly my fucking point.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OH GOD ANOTHER ONE!! Where can i go to find refuge from the negativity?
    Exactly my fucking point.
    sorry
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    OH GOD ANOTHER ONE!! Where can i go to find refuge from the negativity?
    Exactly my fucking point.
    sorry

    You said what I was thinking. Don't be sorry :-)
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh ok thanks logan anyways when will you be seeing the movie?
  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Questions:
    1). On a scale from 1-to-10
    2). How long was the Battle in total?
    3). Was Gringotts amazing? Describe it in depth!

    My answers:

    1) 8,5 at the moment, will probaly be 9 or 9,5 tomorrow.

    2)You have like 15 minutes of "real battle" (including the beginning with the statues and chield; the preparation for the battle; the beginning of the war itself; courtyard apocalyps: bridge destructing; the destruction of clocktower and other parts of hogwarts like the quidditch pitch, the great hall scene with the dead bodies, Minerva vs. severus) You also have like 8 minutes of the final battle (with Molly vs; Bellatrix, Nagini's death,Voldemort vs. Harry). The scenes i didn't include in the "real battle" are: RoR-scene (5 minutes), Cos scene (2 minutes), Snape's dead (1,5 minutes), Harry and the grey lady(2,5 minutes), Hermione&Ron searching on the Marauder's Map (30 seconds).

    3)Gringotts was amazin, It's to much to describe so i will only describe the action part: The trio jumps on the dragon, Hermione releases it, they fly to the surface, you see goblins working when they hear noises, they look like "what the hell?!" then a few seconds later they give a "whatever!" look, they continue working and then the whole thing repeats itself but now just after their "what the hell?!" faces, the dragon burst trough the floor and hell breaks lose. Goblings and gaurds start running, the dragon spits fire, more panic, they fly throug the glass dome but first the dragon let's drop a chandelier. Then they fly away over london (which is so beautiful, you can see the london eye and stuff!)
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't want to watch the kiss. I just wanted to hear about it. And thanks for the update on Neville and Luna.
    The kiss between Harry and Ginny is very short but there is some passion in it. The Ron&Hermione kiss is very passionate, but you don't see their lips because of Ron's hair. But you could feel it very well that those characters love each other so much.
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We see the Gringotts mines enough, and with that i mean really enough. We see the mines when they are riding the car (which is pretty spectacular) we see some wide-angle shots,we see other people riding the car,...
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Um... someone (a very trusty someone) on CoS said Bellatrix's "We won! We Won!" line is in the film!

    http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5772643&postcount=2772
    OMG yes! PLEASE!

  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also pay attention to Narcissa (who's wonderfully acted by Helen Mccrory), you can see it in her eyes that she is done with Voldemort. When Draco doesn't come to the 'dark side', she isin full panic (just watch her eyes only, they say enough xd ). She is in panic because she realises that Harry can jump of to Hagrid in any seconds. So she is like 'Draco come on! We have to flee NOW') And eventually they can flee.
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Um... someone (a very trusty someone) on CoS said Bellatrix's "We won! We Won!" line is in the film!

    http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5772643&postcount=2772
    OMG yes! PLEASE!

    Yep i remember that, but besides that Bellatrix doesn't say much. BUT you can see her quite much. She is always next to Voldemort.
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  • chesterchester Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also pay attention to Narcissa (who's wonderfully acted by Helen Mccrory), you can see it in her eyes that she is done with Voldemort. When Draco doesn't come to the 'dark side', she isin full panic (just watch her eyes only, they say enough xd ). She is in panic because she realises that Harry can jump of to Hagrid in any seconds. So she is like 'Draco come on! We have to flee NOW') And eventually they can flee.
    Oh, so that is why Narcissa wants Draco over there! This makes a lot more sense. Thank you Chester!
    Most people don't understand that bit, while it was very clear to me! xd
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    does voldermort say BEHOLD NAGINI OUR WORK IS DONE?
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Thnks chester!
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