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Does Harry Potter have the biggest fandom worldwide?

Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2011 in Root
I really want to know what everyone's opinions are, especially those of you who live in different countries.

Star Wars?
Lord of the Rings?

They are both big but the box office returns for Star Wars shows a lack overseas, and Lord of the Rings gathered a following as those movies progressed but many of those people don't consider themselves fans. Plus book sales for J.R.R. Tolkien are behind JK Rowling by a decent margin.

Twilight has a HUGE American following, but the overseas following just doesn't match up with Potter. It would actually be a good contest to know who has most fans domestically, HP or Twilight.

Then we have Pirates of the Caribbean, which has a big following but I consider that to be many casuals and as you can see it has fizzled out domestically on its fourth movie. Harry Potter is insanely consistent box office-wise.

Comic Book heroes... This is only brought up because of the success of The Dark Knight and the Spiderman trilogy.

What do you think?
"If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    I think star wars does.
  • JoshJosh Posts: 868
    Star wars is fucking epic.

    I'm gonna miss Harry Potter, another great series ending.
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  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say Star Wars too but I don't know if it matches up across the world...

    Goblet of Fire did make more money in 2005 than Revenge of the Sith...
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • JoshJosh Posts: 868
    That's because the prequels are as boring as hell, but the original trilogy was kick-ass.
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  • SlanteeSlantee Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭
    In India, the biggest international franchises are Harry Potter, Twilight, POTC and the Batman series. Harry Potter and Twilight especially have a big fan base, though the HP fandom is considerably larger and includes people of all ages. Twilight basically includes a lot of 14-17 year olds. And Twilight moms. Just like in the US. POTC's popular amongst teenagers as well. The Batman series is popular amongst teenagers and young adults.
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    Potter.My country is too Potter -favourite-franchise...Hm I ve never Watched Start Wars only played the games. And look at the numbers at FB 29 milions.......
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  • MamounMamoun Posts: 973 ✭✭✭
    Potter here too, Star wars is practically unknown here.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Over here, Twilight became more popular than Harry Potter. Ridiculous X(
  • silverarrowgriffinsilverarrowgriffin Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Harry Potter in my country and a bit of twilight fans
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  • Harry Potter has the biggest fanbase. Period. :)
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    Harry Potter has the biggest fanbase. Period. :)
    Care to elaborate? Because, Star Wars has the biggest!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Harry Potter has the biggest fanbase. Period. :)
    Care to elaborate? Because, Star War's has the biggest!

    Lord Stafford.

    No, Star Wars just has the widest spread material. For instance there's no restriction far as I know against publishing books like there are with HP.
    Have you seen how well Star Wars has done in terms of merchandise and everything? It's freaking massive!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fan fics would exist without or without her permission, i could easily write one up now, and i'll be fine.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've got a big notepad on a shelf right by me, so, yes, i can.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Except we're talking about commercialization fucktard *rolleyes*
    Did i say that i was going to do everything over the computer? Idiot!

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the looks of it, no.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    Harry Potter has the biggest fanbase. Period. :)
    Care to elaborate? Because, Star War's has the biggest!

    Lord Stafford.

    No, Star Wars just has the widest spread material. For instance there's no restriction far as I know against publishing books like there are with HP.
    Have you seen how well Star Wars has done in terms of merchandise and everything? It's freaking massive!

    Lord Stafford.

    We Have Books And Movies and other few books...A Park.....Star wars...I havent watched those movies...Boriiiiiing....no thank you.....
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @LCB

    I said by the looks of it, numbnuts.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    I've got a big notepad on a shelf right by me, so, yes, i can.

    Lord Stafford.
    Hahaha Likely.You know the case where some guy downloaded Harry Potter book and he got arrested.......This is worse.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That has nothing to do with it, Gandalf. Why else would Potter whip Twilights ass in everything else but that?!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well only someone who's incapable of critical reasoning couldn't tell "by the looks of it" what I meant and that it was essentially the same as what Gandalf said
    I suggest we leave it be and get back to the point, no more arguing.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    By Talking About Twilight We are Getting HIS POPULARITY UP! thats it...Deal it or not deal with it..
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    8-| at the way this thread turned out..
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭✭
    There aren't a whole lot of ways to quantitatively evaluate this but going by amount of google search results...

    Twilight- 387 million
    Harry Potter- 377 million
    Star Wars- 316 million
    Lord of the Rings- 79 million

    Again with Twlight if you just look at the surface you'll be mis-led...one has to realize that "twilight" is a general word in the english language, so we can probably safely discount a large chunk of the hits and say it places 4th.
    That's a good point LC about "Twilight" the word itself.
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    8-| at the way this thread turned out..
    Yes. :-( Indeed.
    Well only someone who's incapable of critical reasoning couldn't tell "by the looks of it" what I meant and that it was essentially the same as what Gandalf said
    I suggest we leave it be and get back to the point, no more arguing.

    Lord Stafford.

    =D>
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    8-| at the way this thread turned out..
    THIS ^ :(

  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    What? What are we talking about?
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    I think it does have more than Twilight and LOTR worldswide. Starwars is hard to tell. Stuff like this is more often judged as what is big right now. HP is huge right now so I would say yes.

    Also, Star Wars may be huge merchandise wide but HP has the success of the books as well as the films. It has that over Star Wars. Depends on how you measure it.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    I believe that, worldwide, the Potter fanbase is the biggest.
    Over here, in the forum, we have users from EVERYWHERE guys. And that makes me so proud of being a potter fan! :D
  • JoshJosh Posts: 868
    Harry Potter has the biggest fanbase. Period. :)
    Care to elaborate? Because, Star Wars has the biggest!

    Lord Stafford.

    Sure, they were the most popular in the '80s..but Harry Potter has crossed that popularity.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Harry Potter has the biggest fanbase. Period. :)
    Care to elaborate? Because, Star Wars has the biggest!

    Lord Stafford.

    Sure, they were the most popular in the '80s..but Harry Potter has crossed that popularity.

    It hasn't crossed it, it's matched it, yes. But to say that it has crossed it is hard to tell.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it does have more than Twilight and LOTR worldswide. Starwars is hard to tell. Stuff like this is more often judged as what is big right now. HP is huge right now so I would say yes.

    Also, Star Wars may be huge merchandise wide but HP has the success of the books as well as the films. It has that over Star Wars. Depends on how you measure it.
    Star Wars doesn't have official novels, does it?!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    I think it does have more than Twilight and LOTR worldswide. Starwars is hard to tell. Stuff like this is more often judged as what is big right now. HP is huge right now so I would say yes.

    Also, Star Wars may be huge merchandise wide but HP has the success of the books as well as the films. It has that over Star Wars. Depends on how you measure it.
    Star Wars doesn't have official novels, does it?!

    Lord Stafford.
    Not official, no. But Harry Potter has that over Star Wars. Same point still stands.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never denied you're point.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    I never denied you're point.

    Lord Stafford.
    Oh, I know :-)
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    Good, good. :-D

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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    The movies did come first, but there are a lot of Star Wars books. I've never read any, but they exist.
  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    A lot of them. I think over a hundred.
  • JoshJosh Posts: 868
    Star Wars books yes they exist.
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  • MacMac Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭
    Harry Potter is more popular of Star Wars...None of my friends is bloody interested in Star Wars in a sense of even mentioning......Not because its over...Not interested in it....But Potter has more to offer.
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Well and i don't really see the difference between the two. I mean in HP the books were first and then came the films. There are differences between the two creating two separate cannons. Book cannon which being the original is the true cannon of the HP series.

    It is just the opposite for Star Wars. The films came first and then the books creating two separate cannons. The film cannon for Star Wars is the true cannon.

    For HP the films are still good and enjoyable, but not technically cannon because they aren't the originals. For Star Wars, though i haven't read them, the books i am sure are still enjoyable and technically not cannon because it isn't the original medium.
  • JoshJosh Posts: 868
    I actually like Star Wars. But Harry Potter has more movies/books.

    And I think HP has became more popular then Star Wars.
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Well Star Wars has more books and less movies by one.

    HP has a lot less books and more movies by one.

    I personally think this question is unanswerable. There is a huge generation gap here going on. I mean i don't know anyone that is a HP fan in real life. It is sort of considered a joke. I don't think the same thing is true of Star Wars. But really that is just my experience and doesn't prove that Star Wars has a bigger fandom. I don't think we can know which has a bigger fandom.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Deathly Hallows and Philosopher's Stone will be remembered as one of the most iconic, important, biggest milestones in popular culture. EVER. PS got kids to read again. That is unheard of, and Twilight has to thank HP for that. Kids just don't pick up Lord of the Rings and get hooked. It's like reading a King James Bible.

    Each Harry Potter book upon release was one of the biggest events Worldwide that year. Deathly Hallows sold close to 10 million copies IN ONE HOUR!!!!!!!!!!! That's unF***ing believable for a book.

    Star Wars gained massive popularity domestically and has the biggest fanbase over here no doubt, the first Star Wars movie was revolutionary. The new trilogy wasn't well received, and I might add that Star Wars couldn't compete with Potter during the height of Potter's popularity. Twilight can't compete with Potter during the height of it's popularity. Lord of the Rings (the movies) could because they drew in a big fanbase that could care less about the book, just wanting to know how the journey ended. I love Lord of the Rings. But to think that any of this stuff could manage a decade long ass-whooping like Potter has been putting on the pop culture world, is just plain silly.

    And Pirates has Johnny Depp. Yes I would like to see a pirates movie perform with somebody, anybody else playing Jack Sparrow.

    All in all it's close to who has the biggest worldwide of all time, but right now it's no doubt Harry Potter. It's made SOoooooo much money... Do you really think WB or anybody else (JK regardless of what she says) is going to let this massive gold-digger franchise die after this movie? You are INSANE if you think that. Harry Potter will indeed have Star Wars longevity... Just without those kick-ass lightsabers.
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  • JoshJosh Posts: 868
    Probably the most popular franchise of the 80's would be Star Wars.

    But the prequels wasn't as popular as the original trilogy.
    So Harry Potter wins for the 2000's
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    I think this question is unanswerable. More people saw Star Wars. I don't think that PS created anything because i had never heard of HP until the first film came out. I think that the films sort of allowed for the popularity of the later books.

    It is just unanswerable. They both have huge fandoms and are both great. That is sort of it for me.
  • dashape80dashape80 Posts: 1,238
    edited June 2011
    Probably unanswerable however from my personal (limited) experience and what I've seen over the years . . . Star Wars hands down. I've been to their conventions (Celebrations II & III) and I've never seen anything to rival that kind of fan turn out.

    Also, there are more references, inside jokes, and tributes to Star Wars in other TV shows and movies than any other series of movies BAR NONE (that's a solid, indisputable fact)
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Well that has certainly been my experience as well dashape. Though i've never been to a convention.
  • dashape80dashape80 Posts: 1,238
    edited June 2011
    Well that has certainly been my experience as well dashape. Though i've never been to a convention.
    I saw Star Wars fandom literally take over a city during a convention. Storm Troopers working traffic in the down town streets (which was hilarious), every restaurant you walked into there was somebody in costume . . . and we all talking ages ranging from small child to people in their 50s.

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