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Snape's Memories Changed?

aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
edited June 2011 in General
Apparently, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II, one of the changes made will be that Snape’s memories won’t show that he was friends with Lily—only that he admired her from afar.

According to JasonAnderson (fellow member on HPF who can't create his own thread, he's a junior member,) a twitter/tumblr website called HP Secrets is spreading this around and much of the site's fan base for Harry Potter has seen it and is getting pissed.

What do you guys think? Is this true? Would you be happy about the change?

CREDIT: JasonAnderson
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  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've heard the same, the whole mudblood thing has been excluded, there is not really much of a relationship between the two, no argument etc, I'll see how it works out in the film.
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  • chace483chace483 Posts: 1,026
    I don't mind that. The important part is that we know that he cared for her and she didn't return his feelings.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭✭
    ^Yes.
    I think it'll be fine.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How the hell is Jason still a junior member? I'll never know, but anyway... i'm not particularly happy about this, one to many change's for me!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    I don't mind that. The important part is that we know that he cared for her and she didn't return his feelings.
    Exactly.
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  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish they'd done Snape's Worst Memory justice to begin with, but never mind.
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  • MamounMamoun Posts: 973 ✭✭✭
    I'm ok with that, it simplifies the story but still keeps the whole "Snape loves Lily" idea.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    :-< ... Simplifiying the story again ... :-<

    Lord Stafford.

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  • chace483chace483 Posts: 1,026
    :-< ... Simplifiying the story again ... :-<

    Lord Stafford.



    :-D You could just argue that all the films are basically 2 hour visual summaries of the books anyway.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    So wait..... snape LOVES lily and theyre not showing that? Im not one ounce ok with that.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    @chace

    That isn't even what i'm refering to, what i am saying is... ever since HBP, they seem to enjoy changing how something or other work's, and making it much simpler. A major example is: The Horcrux explanation by Dumbledore, but so many more could be added to that.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    They show Snape and Lily when they are little kids and they're friends. Lily goes to Gryffindor and she starts distancing herself from Snape, not that she wants to, but they've got different friends etc. Snape looks at her from afar. So it's still there that he cares for her and loves her. I think they said that there is a scene where Lily and James are dancing and Snape looks at her from afar and he's quiet and sad. Then we've got all the scenes with the Potters death, Dumbledore etc. I think that the important part is there. Snape loved Lily. They were friends, but Snape had deeper feelings for her. When Voldemort is about to kill the Potters, he's crying and pleading Dumbledore to help them. Then, when he sees her dead body he cradles her in his arms and cries. He even makes the Silver Doe for her. I think that it's going to be pretty clear that Snape was in love with her. I'm not disappointed that they cut Snape's worst memory. I thought it was one of the weakest moments in OotP and I'm not just talking about the editing of that scene in the film.
    After all, the test-screeners said this was one of the best moments in the series and Alan Rickman is supposed to have given a fantastic performance, so I think it'll be really good despite the 'Mudblood' scene cut.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    Who said i was complaining? I was just expressing disappointment.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord_DarkeyesLord_Darkeyes Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭✭
    I heard that they are friends, nothing more. At the beginning of it, they hang out by the lakeside and all. Then when she's sorted, he just admires her.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Um there were nothing more than friends in the book, as well. Snape loved her, Lily didn't.


    Stafford, who said that you were complaining?
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No one did, i just assumed, and clearly i was wrong in doing so... that you're previous post was directed at me and my previous comment.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HPF, jumpin' the gun like always.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What an entertaining place, this is.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    People who have seen the film said that Snape's memories is one of, if not the best sequence in the entire film.

    Yet, here we are. *golfclap*
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That doesn't mean that it will not come with it's weak point's, like all scene's in every film ever made.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you look for weak points in anything you will certainly find them.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    Yes, you surely will. You'd be hard pressed to find anything at all without them, other than maybe Emma Watson... i can't see anything bad about her, and anytime i do hear something bad about her is always a pile of shite!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • decarusdecarus Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭
    Apparently, in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II, one of the changes made will be that Snape’s memories won’t show that he was friends with Lily—only that he admired her from afar.

    According to JasonAnderson (fellow member on HPF who can't create his own thread, he's a junior member,) a twitter/tumblr website called HP Secrets is spreading this around and much of the site's fan base for Harry Potter has seen it and is getting pissed.

    What do you guys think? Is this true? Would you be happy about the change?

    CREDIT: JasonAnderson
    I think that the memory won't show that they are close friends of any sort. It is more that they know each other. I am fine with it, but i hate Snape's storyline so i don't really care.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    I think it shows that they were indeed close friends in the beginning. There's a scene in the field, another under a tree, they're together on Hogwarts Express and during the Sorting scene. I think that Lily will be shown being friends with the Gryffindors, so their friend relationship will become more and more distant, but Snape will always be admiring her afar etc. I like it. And I can't wait for Rickman's performance.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    THAT DOES IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO FUCKIN PISSED NOW!!!!! OK I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS AND WHILE WERE ON THE SUBJECT OF THINGS I HATE. I HATE ALL THE CHANGES TO DH2. THIS MOVIE IS AS KESHA SAYS IS GONNA BLOW!!! WHY IN GODS NAME DO THEY DO THIS? ITS JUST PLAIN LAZY.
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  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOLAGE!
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    god damm it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM SO ANGRY I COULD CUT A BITCH
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    THAT DOES IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO FUCKIN PISSED NOW!!!!! OK I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS AND WHILE WERE ON THE SUBJECT OF THINGS I HATE. I HATE ALL THE CHANGES TO DH2. THIS MOVIE IS AS KESHA SAYS IS GONNA BLOW!!! WHY IN GODS NAME DO THEY DO THIS? ITS JUST PLAIN LAZY.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL
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  • SlanteeSlantee Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭
    THAT DOES IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO FUCKIN PISSED NOW!!!!! OK I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS AND WHILE WERE ON THE SUBJECT OF THINGS I HATE. I HATE ALL THE CHANGES TO DH2. THIS MOVIE IS AS KESHA SAYS IS GONNA BLOW!!! WHY IN GODS NAME DO THEY DO THIS? ITS JUST PLAIN LAZY.
    Ah, its been so long since I heard you talk like that. Can't wait for your reaction to the movie. You're going to want to lick the screen. And then I'll have my "I-told-you-so" moment (:
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know what to say, and by that i mean that i don't know if Nick is being serious or not... but judging by you're reaction's, i'd say that he is being so.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    Oh dear.
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  • Lord_DarkeyesLord_Darkeyes Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭✭
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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .....
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  • Lord_DarkeyesLord_Darkeyes Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭✭
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh dear.
    Don't you start. :-W

    Lord Stafford.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i mean seriously how hard is it to show snape ACTUALLY loved lilly? NOT HARD AT ALL the filmmakers simply got tired and decided to get lazy. im dead serious im actually pretty pissed.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
    i mean seriously how hard is it to show snape ACTUALLY loved lilly? NOT HARD AT ALL the filmmakers simply got tired and decided to get lazy. im dead serious im actually pretty pissed.
    How could you possibly know that without seeing the film? Again everyone is saying it's one of the best parts of the movie. I'm PRETTY SURE they'll show that.

    You're getting overly upset over inconclusive evidence and fan meanderings.
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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i mean seriously how hard is it to show snape ACTUALLY loved lilly? NOT HARD AT ALL the filmmakers simply got tired and decided to get lazy. im dead serious im actually pretty pissed.
    This proves how pathetic the fanbase can be at times. Even though this was said to be the best sequence of the movie theres always gonna be things to bitch about. get over it
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    :-?
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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    Oh dear.
    Don't you start. :-W

    Lord Stafford.
    Start what? Enlighten me, Lord.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't have to repeat what i said about fault's and the fact that it isn't perfect again, do i, darth?!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OH GOD PLEASE NO NOT TODAY NO FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't have to repeat what i said about fault's and the fact that it isn't perfect again, do i, darth?!

    Lord Stafford.
    No. You really don't. I'm not even encouraging that you do.
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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OH GOD PLEASE NO NOT TODAY NO FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    stop, please
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh dear.
    Don't you start. :-W

    Lord Stafford.
    Start what? Enlighten me, Lord.
    Was the 'Oh dear' directed at me? Be honest with me, and i shall apologise for insinuating if you do be so, without lying!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    Oh dear.
    Don't you start. :-W

    Lord Stafford.
    Start what? Enlighten me, Lord.
    Was the 'Oh dear' directed at me? Be honest with me, and i shall apologise for insinuating if you do be so, without lying!

    Lord Stafford.

    No, it was not.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Nick

    We are not fighting, and nor shall we begin to do so, by my reckoning at least.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh dear.
    Don't you start. :-W

    Lord Stafford.
    Start what? Enlighten me, Lord.
    Was the 'Oh dear' directed at me? Be honest with me, and i shall apologise for insinuating if you do be so, without lying!

    Lord Stafford.

    No, it was not.
    Alrighty then, i apologise. Let me guess, it was directed at Nick?!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    edited June 2011
    The whole situation, actually. All the worrying over the Prince's Tale of all things. It'll be great. Mark my words.
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