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flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
edited May 2011 in General
that's the worst marketing for a HP movie I've ever seen! What the hell is happening? The excuse "HP doesn't need a marketing. It has its fans" doesn't fit.

Sorry, probably there are a lot of threads like this one, but I'm really disappointed. Batman 3 has a best marketing than HP7.2! :(
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Batman 3: one glimpse at Bane

    Part 2: a double-teaser, one theatrical trailer, six posters (another coming today), possibly another trailer in the coming weeks, TV spots, etc., and we have like a month and a half to go.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    One glimpse of bane.... psh

    I guarantee you tdkr will have better marketing. Starting from the trailer that will be on dh2
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    I agree with this...now.
    I won't say anything but this. Promise me one thing. Come back here to this thread this time next month (last day of June) and tell me if the marketing is bad or good.
    I totally agree with this

    I think well be hit soo hard by then
    And...I want to hear desplats samples hahaha :p


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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At least they've dialed back the marketing from TDK. My god. They started promoting that shit like 2 years in advance.
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    One glimpse of bane.... psh

    I guarantee you tdkr will have better marketing. Starting from the trailer that will be on dh2[2]

    "I won't say anything but this. Promise me one thing. Come back here to this thread this time next month (last day of June) and tell me if the marketing is bad or good."

    Of course they have to increase the marketing during june! The thing is that a good marketing isn't make in only one month.

    These posters being released daily... honestly, HP7.2 has a vaste footage and they continue making the obvious: close in the character doing nothing.

    WB doesn't care to HP marketing, that's a fact.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    I agree with flavio about the bad marketing.
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    :(
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Am I the only one who feels that we've already seen plenty of Part 2? I mean it's only a month and a half away. People are already excited, and they DON'T need to kick the marketing machine into high-gear for another couple of weeks, but it seems that they're getting going starting last week with all the promotional posters which is continuing into this week

    Oh fuck it, Harry Potter fans are the whiniest sons of bitches on the internet
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2011
    And if you think we're not about to get a bunch of marketing shoved up our asses, you're fucking crazy.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Yes we are going to get marketing the last month like crazy wich i HATE because they release 8 clips in one day?
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    A lot of TV spots showing only old scenes. Posters awfully designed. And then they'll release 40% of the movie in june, with featurettes, pics, TV spots and TV specials... Where and how is it a good marketing? :(
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    Am I the only one who feels that we've already seen plenty of Part 2? I mean it's only a month and a half away. People are already excited, and they DON'T need to kick the marketing machine into high-gear for another couple of weeks, but it seems that they're getting going starting last week with all the promotional posters which is continuing into this week

    Oh fuck it, Harry Potter fans are the whiniest sons of bitches on the internet
    We've seen plenty so far. I have no complaints about the marketing. TV spots just got going and I've already seen a few.



    WB doesn't care to HP marketing, that's a fact.
    Is it? Do you work there or did someone from WB tell you that?

    It's the biggest franchise of all time. Believe me, they care.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2011
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    Is it? Do you work there or did someone from WB tell you that?

    It's the biggest franchise of all time. Believe me, they care.
    Unfortunately, I don't work. But I don't have to work there to conclude this. Nobody has.

  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Tdk has had the best marketing of any film ive seen.
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    A lot of TV spots showing only old scenes. Posters awfully designed. And then they'll release 40% of the movie in june, with featurettes, pics, TV spots and TV specials... Where and how is it a good marketing? :(
    We just got new stuff last month. It's old if a month is old.

    Just because it is not in your face for months and months doesn't mean its bad. Hitting people with lots of media the month before is a good idea. People have short term memories. It's not like they can buy movie tickets in March or April. They wait until it is closer to release to blast you with it.

    Part of my jobs responsibilities where I am are in marketing. DH2 marketing has not been bad.
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  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    They care about making a good movie, about the money earned... but about the marketing? The last good HP marketing was for Goblet of Fire.
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    Is it? Do you work there or did someone from WB tell you that?

    It's the biggest franchise of all time. Believe me, they care.
    Unfortunately, I don't work. But I don't have to work there to conclude this. Nobody has.

    Well then it is opinion, not fact. I don't come to that conclusion so thats incorrect.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They care about making a good movie, about the money earned... but about the marketing? The last good HP marketing was for Goblet of Fire.
    Are you kidding me? I was just about sick of Half-Blood Prince before it even came out. I can't stand aggressive marketing. Yes, I will see the film, day one, probably at midnight and probably more than once. I don't need 20 trailers and 200 pictures every day to convince me.
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    The marketing of HBP was totally like this one: a lot of time with nothing and then, in the last month, half-movie released in clips, TV spots and etc.

    "I don't need 20 trailers and 200 pictures every day to convince me."

    Neither do I. I'm not asking for a LOT of marketing. I'm asking for a good one. Quantity isn't quality.
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    So you are just asking for new material more often?

    Please explain what you think they could do better. Just saying it sucks and not defining why doesn't help your case.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Quantity is NOT quality thank you.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    logan i think what hes saying is he wants the marketing spread out.
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    Where are the games we had in the past? The wallpapers... Something viral. Something like: they could design a page showing The Room of Requirement and we would have to find, I don't know, the horcruxes and the hallows... Good posters, like Molly x Bella; McGonagall x Snape; a wide vision of the battle scene... not these posters that are just the same we have saw in HP7.1. The HP official website? There's nothing to do there...

    Well, a lot of points.
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like you're a fan of useless gimmicks.
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    I don't necessarily agree that spreading it out so much is a good idea. Honestly pushing the marketing within a couple months of release is the most effective strategy. Not many people are going to get excited and stay excited a year or more out from release.

    Any people that will are already big fans and dont need the marketing.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    edited May 2011
    Flavio, what? HBP's marketing began many months before the film's release and it became annoying. It was too aggressive and that's why the film had less attendance than OotP. Too many TV spots, too many trailers, too many released clips. I get that they wanted to promote the film as much as possible because of the delay, but they wanted to show that HBP was the ultimate blockbuster. Well, it wasn't. It was a very artsy and quiet film with almost non-existent action. People realized that, the word of mouth spread around and the results weren't as good as WB may have expected (even though it made 301M$ domestically and 633M$ overseas).

    DH2 has DH1 being released on DVD, selling LOADS. It's the best marketing for the film. The teaser trailer was very successful, the TV spots play everywhere, the first posters have been released and the buzz and hype grow stronger. People know that the finale of the series is this summer. All that is left is to release all the theatrical posters, more TV spots, few clips and featurettes and a final epic long theatrical trailer that will blow everyone away and will guarantee an increase in ticket sales because people will be: 'wow, it looks really good and it's the final film. It promises lots of action and it's the finale of the series. We'd better see this'.
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    I'm not. I'm not asking these for me, because I even don't like games... But I know a lot of fans like.

    Anyway, if you will just attack, I'm stopping now :)
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Oh i just love tdk marketing... it was amazing
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh i just love tdk marketing... it was amazing
    It was sickening.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    yes it does vance...
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sick? Psh..
    Movie studios need to stop pretending like some of their films are the second coming of Jesus Christ.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Heck, even on IMDb Potter is above TF3 in terms of most-seen sites for a month, even though there were new clips and a new trailer for TF3.
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    Well, at least there in my country, I don't see TV spots anywhere. And I know a lot, really a lot, of people who even don't know the release date. People who watched all the Potter movies (but aren't potterheades like us). OK, you can guilt then, but I think the marketing is guilty too.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Tdk was fuckin insane i saw it everywhere since 2 months from its release.
  • flaviobessajrflaviobessajr Posts: 361
    Nobody agrees? Richard agrees. And not only him. You just have to look Twitter more often.

    Anyway, leaving :)
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Pirates 4 was heavily promoted only in the U.S. and became known a couple of weeks before its release in most international markets. Still, its box office is huge internationally and quite poor in the U.S.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Yes i agree that releasing 8 clips in one day, a trailer the next, tv spots the next is not as good as a clip a week or so...
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited May 2011
    I don't think the marketing campaign is that bad. But, for one of the most antecipated movies in history, yes... it kinda sucks.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Dude... i didnt mean literlly
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I very much agree, Flavio. And yes, maybe they are bombarding you with TV Spots in the states, but here they won't be airing until at least July 1st-5th.
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  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    as is tradition
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    That you take everything so literally
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Guys. Don't fight :(
  • Accio_LogAccio_Log Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭
    Anyone that doesn't know the release date can't blame the marketing. If they were Potter fanatics they would find a way to learn the date.

    They will learn it within a month of the release or a couple of weeks if not by then. This franchise is so heavily marketed that we can't complain. There are very few films that have this much media released. IMO, we have seen plenty of content in the trailers and the posters are just character posters. They aren't meant to be anything more than that. I don't think double character posters or anything like that will really increase the visibility of the film nor make it more appealing.

    I am also one of the people that got sick of the HBP stuff. It was everywhere all the time.

    We will get plenty more as it gets closer to July.

    This is not an attack it is a disagreement. No one has made a personal comment toward you so it's not an attack. Just because someone doesnt agree doesnt mean they are coming after you.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I won't say anything but this. Promise me one thing. Come back here to this thread this time next month (last day of June) and tell me if the marketing is bad or good.
    Releasing a ton of stuff at once doesn't equate to good marketing. People want a steady buildup of things. So, no, there will still be those who won't think the marketing is good even when we have a billion things at the end of next month.

    Anyway, the marketing right now is kind of effective. This one girl was all (cause she knows I like Harry Potter) "I saw a commercial for harry potter!" then some other girl who had seen one too was like "oh yeah, it looks intense!" then they both agreed that the cliff diving part looked really cool.
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