OCLUMENCIA HAS SOME NEW EMPIRE SCANS

Festax0333

Go look!
even a pic with snape and david barron

Accio_Log

Nice!!!

Ash

"We did a couple of fire jobs, set a couple of Death Eaters alight, but I don't know whether they'll keep those ones in because of the rating."
"We're not going to push the rating. It's not graphic."

Doesn't fill me with much hope really. I wanted a realistic battle. Not some Narnia-like fam-fest.

Lord Stafford

As if having spiders and giants is unrealistic enough, particularly when everyone is fighting with sticks?

Lord Stafford.

Nick

lm,ao!!!!

Jason

"We like to push the envelope, but not that much."

Keep it real please.

Mamoun

"We did a couple of fire jobs, set a couple of Death Eaters alight, but I don't know whether they'll keep those ones in because of the rating."
"We're not going to push the rating. It's not graphic."

Doesn't fill me with much hope really. I wanted a realistic battle. Not some Narnia-like fam-fest.

A couple of people on fire is not graphic, there are plenty of PG-13 films out there that included even worse stuff.

I think they are being a little too worried about the rating.

Ash

I agree Mamoun. They underestimate the ratings system.

Accio_Log

Better safe than sorry. If they keep it in and the rating changes then they have to take it out later. best just to leave it out to begin with.

decarus

It is because of the UK ratings not the US ones. They have to worry about keeping the film from being restricted.

Wolf_Potter

Why do they keep rating HP films PG? Almost all the audience for DH was about 18-25yo people!! So, get the fuck off PG I want a R rating

And blood blood blood!!!

jonny7003

If LOTR Return of the King can get away with severed heads being catapulted over walls and still earn a 12A Certificate, then Deathly Hallows Part 2 can get away with a bunch of Death Eaters on fire.

Ash

Well The Fellowship of the Ring was rated PG (lower than GoF, OotP, HBP and DH1) and that included a decapitation, and some fairly intense battle scenes, though I guess that was 10 years ago. I do know what you mean though, some PG-13 films do end up with a restricted 15 rating here.

Ash

And yeah what Jonny said lol.

Festax0333

The people on fire would be amazing

Wolf_Potter

People on fire? What? :O

Richard

Post link please!

Accio_Log

Some scenes depicting something gruesome thing can be more graphic than another doing the same. It all depends on how it is done.

Lord Stafford

If LOTR Return of the King can get away with severed heads being catapulted over walls and still earn a 12A Certificate, then Deathly Hallows Part 2 can get away with a bunch of Death Eaters on fire.

No, it can't... not with WB in control. LOTR had a lenient company alongside them, we have a bunch of pussy's.

Lord Stafford.

Bane

If LOTR Return of the King can get away with severed heads being catapulted over walls and still earn a 12A Certificate, then Deathly Hallows Part 2 can get away with a bunch of Death Eaters on fire.

No, it can't... not with WB in control. LOTR had a lenient company alongside them, we have a bunch of pussy's.

Lord Stafford.

OR

WAIT

WAIT FOR IT

---OR---

HARRY POTTER IS NOT LORD OF THE RINGS

AND AND

AND

IN THE BOOKS, PEOPLE DON'T GET THEIR HEADS AND SHIT CUT OFF, AND THEY DON'T USE SWORDS AND AXES AND BOWS

MOTHER OF GOD, Stafford, you are TRULY the master of the bitch.

Bane

) Exactly... quit comparing Harry Potter and LOTR... its a losing battle.

And a fucking stupid one too. Two entirely different tones, atmosphere, type of violence.

dobby_freak19

I think all they were trying to say is that, as TLOTR has some intense stuff with a pg-13 rating, HP can have it as well, on it´s own matter...but WB wont let it

Ash

Yeah that's all I was saying I wasn't comparing the films, just the ratings. Harry Potter could have burning Death Eaters if they wanted to, just as they could have had bodies falling from the Millennium Bridge, or Nagini bursting from Bathilda's neck. All of these things wouldn't have changed the rating, but WB choose not to include them because they fear a higher rating. And all I'm saying is, they won't get one.

jonny7003

I've been over this a dozen times before and I shall say it once again: the BBFC rating system over here in the UK is very different from that of the US; the BBFC takes violence very seriously when rating a film. It is top priority, but the point I am making is that having Death Eaters on fire (which is not graphic according to the article) is tame when put alongside severed heads being thrown over walls in ROTK. The same goes for the end battle of Pirates of the Caribbean 1 where a soldier gets his head thrown at a window. Both films got a 12A certificate, so the Harry Potter crew have quite a bit of freedom when dealing with their "fantasy violence", so they needn't be afraid of "pushing the rating" at all when dealing with Death Eaters being set alight. Actually, a better comparison would be that, in ROTK, Denethor died by being covered in flames; the film still received a 12A certificate did it not? I'm merely pointing out that the reason for the 12A classification on LOTR and many other films which have more graphic violence than anything in Harry Potter, can also be justified for the Deathly Hallows Part 2.

Accio_Log

Lol, jumping on Stafford even though he is not the one who brought up the comparison.

Yeah that's all I was saying I wasn't comparing the films, just the ratings. Harry Potter could have burning Death Eaters if they wanted to, just as they could have had bodies falling from the Millennium Bridge, or Nagini bursting from Bathilda's neck. All of these things wouldn't have changed the rating, but WB choose not to include them because they fear a higher rating. And all I'm saying is, they won't get one.

This is exactly what everyone was saying. They just used LOTR as an example. It was a comparison of the ratings not the films themselves.

Braveheart

Ugh, this ratings talk does not inspire me with much confidence. Seriously, I can only conclude that Heyman and WB have some kind of brain deficiency. ERAGON which was rated PG had people on fire. Do they not realise how much a 12A/PG-13 rating lets them away with? Why do they insist on constantly pre-empting the verdict of the ratings board. Can't they just see what the movie gets rated and THEN if need be they can edit it. But then, these are the people who thought people falling into water would be too intense and were too scared to show Bathilda disintegrating let alone have a snake come out her mouth (does that mean Chris Columbus had more balls than them?).

blackvenom

They just said that if the scene is 'too gory' for a PG-13 rating, it may be cut. It may be in the film, we don't know yet.

Jason

They didn't show Dobby with the knife in his chest. If they thought that would have created some issues, then I don't know how they will handle those scenes in editing.

Richard

Imo they held back quite alot in DH1

Bane

I'll take style over graphic violence. DH1 did such a great job with that. Especially actually seeing Bathilda's neck snap backwards in the mirror reflection.

Ash

Imo they held back quite alot in DH1

I think so too.

Bane

Huh? I just think I'd rather take a more unique approach to violence than just outright RAAWWRRR BLOOOOOODDDD

It will be as extreme as it needs to be, nothing more. Wand battles don't really result in blood. They're throwing magic spells, not molotov cocktails. I'm sure the scenes that will actually elicit some graphic violence (like Snape's death) will be handled accordingly. Anyway, the violence is like at the bottom of the list of reasons I want to see this film. If I want heavy war violence I'll watch Braveheart or something.

Jason

Well, we know there is literally a bloodbath when Voldemort goes crazy at Malfoy Manor, so that should satisfy the ones who want to see blood.

Bane

Well, we know there is literally a bloodbath when Voldemort goes crazy at Malfoy Manor, so that should satisfy the ones who want to see blood.

I highly doubt it's going to be a bloodbath. People dying? Yes. Bloody as all hell? No.

Richard

Theres blood on the floor

Bane

Theres blood on the floor

I'm not saying there's no blood. I just said it's not going to be a "bloodbath," or bloody as hell.

dobby_freak19

Well maybe the kind of sectumsempra style as in HBP

Richard

Well with the amount of blood i see im fine but i hope they dont edit it out.

dobby_freak19

Well with the amount of blood i see im fine but i hope they dont edit it out.

They wont. HBP was PG and the Sectumsempra scene was bloody

Braveheart

Well, we know there is literally a bloodbath when Voldemort goes crazy at Malfoy Manor, so that should satisfy the ones who want to see blood.

I highly doubt it's going to be a bloodbath. People dying? Yes. Bloody as all hell? No.

Didn't that Death Eater guy talk about how surprised he was at the amount of blood they were putting in the scene when Voldemort goes crazy. Bucketfuls he said, although I think that was a bit of an exaggeration.

Anyway, if they do tone it down, I won't be too bothered as long as they tone it down the way they did with Part 1, and not with HBP. Whereas I think the Bathilda scene would be far more effective if they did it how they showed it in the test screening, at least they still kept the bloody ceiling so the audience weren't completely confused as to WTF happened. With HBP however, I still maintain that by taking out the people falling they completely undermined the whole point of that scene and made the Death Eaters lame villains.

Just as long as they don't get to the stage where they are altering bodies so they look like mounds of rubble instead. Although the sight of people mourning dozens of pieces of rubble in the great hall might just be worth it.

Lord_Darkeyes

I'm seeing enough blood in Snape's Death.

Braveheart

I'm seeing enough blood in Snape's Death.

...What?

Lord_Darkeyes

They are discussing blood. I think there will be enough blood in Snape's Death.

Bane

My bad good sir.

GodricGryffindor

Cause I said Part 1 didn't feel watered down, but people were bitching about Bathilda and such...so I was referring to them, not you. I'd rather have artistic as well.

I'm with you guys.
I think we'll just have to wait and see.
Personally, I loved the way the handled violence
in DH1. It didn't feel FLASHY or anything. I felt
it was sort of connected to the character's
emotions. Especially Ron's SPLINCHING


G.G.