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DEATHLY HALLOWS PART 2 TO BE THE SHORTEST FILM CONFIRMED BY DAVID HEYMAN in Collider.com

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edited April 2011 in General
DAVID HEYMAN SAID IN AN INTERVIEW WITH COLLIDER.COM THAT DEATHLY HALLOWS PART 2 WILL INDEED BE THE SHORTEST FILM WITH IT BARELY BEING OVER 2 HOURS NOT 2/12 HOURS.
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  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    april fools lol
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    actually no i read the collider.com interview
  • LordPottermortLordPottermort Posts: 268 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
    I thought it was an April Fools joke too but then I saw the interview and apparently this is true :( I really wanted it to be more than 2 hours and 20 minutes!
    Blood Will Be Spilled on July 15, 2011 ...For the Greater Good.
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    im officially pissed!!! oh god evreyone is going to flip the hell out when they see this
  • YodatheHobbitYodatheHobbit Posts: 943 ✭✭
    Quality, not quantity. They don't need to flip the hell out.
  • they are fooling us!!!! it must be an april fools joke! DONT BELIEVE IN ANYTHING IN THIS DAY.
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  • superpotterfansuperpotterfan Posts: 570
    edited April 2011
    HOLY SHIT!! its not a joke!! there is actually a video of them saying that! :'( I want to cry!!!!!!!
    I wish this was an april fools prank!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(:(
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  • superpotterfansuperpotterfan Posts: 570
    edited April 2011
    ok so the shortest is OotP which is 138 minutes..
    2 hours and 18 minutes...
    HOW MUCH SHORT CAN THAT BE? :S 2 HOURS?
    GOSH I THOUGH THEY MADE 2 FILMS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO OVER EXPAND PART 2!!!!

    EDIT: We should make a twitter trend #WE-DONT-WANT-DH2-SHORT or something like that to get their attention

    sorry for so many posts, im very pissed off :(
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    im pissed off as well will the movie feel rushed? im very worried :O
  • superpotterfansuperpotterfan Posts: 570
    edited April 2011
    plz ppl help me RETWEET IT http://twitter.com/Luci_288
    I wrote this
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  • phoenix1phoenix1 Posts: 2,293 mod
    edited April 2011
    SS has the interview, they said it's not a short film, but the shortest. They don't know exactly how long cause they're still editing it.

    How did you guys decide what footage you wanted to show the theater owners today?

    Heyman: Well part of it was what was ready, quite frankly. Because we’re still very much editing and also still very much doing the visual effects. So a lot of the visual effects being shown here will be very rough, and the footage is still rough. But we just showed some exciting bits and some really good dramatic scenes.
    Barron: What the movie’s about.
    Heyman: To let people in, a little bit.


    When you guys first presented Harry Potter, I believe it was last year but maybe 2 years ago, but you guys actually showed a scene from Harry facing Voldemort for the final time. And it was in the very beginning of the footage you showed, and for me, I gasped, because I couldn’t believe you were showing this.

    Barron: (laughs) Just teasing.
    Heyman: You had to wait a little while before you actually saw it in the film.


    Are you showing anymore of that scene today?

    Heyman: No.
    Barron: There’s one shot of each, I think.
    Heyman: Yeah there’s a couple of shots, but we’re not showing cut footage.


    You guys decided not to do the 3D conversion for Part 1, but you said 3D for Part 2. Is Part 2 still being released in 3D?

    Heyman: Yes it is. The reason we didn’t do it on the first part was because we didn’t feel that we could do it justice. And actually the 3D would actually compromise the film, so we didn’t have the time.
    Barron: We were diving into 3D for the first time, it was a new world for us, and so we didn’t get off to a fine start. There wasn’t time to do it properly, and so Warners very very kindly supported us. I’m sure they were wishing it was not the case, but they were hugely supportive to not put out something that we weren’t happy with.


    You mentioned that you guys were eventually gonna release Part 1 in 3D whether it be on Blu-ray or a re-release theatrically.

    Heyman: We’re doing Blu-ray.
    Barron: It’s going really well.
    Heyman: We’re in the process of doing it right now and we’re really excited about the quality, we feel it adds something to the film and is really immersive as opposed to taking out, which I think a lot of 3D can do. And it’s been great for us going through that process to lead into the theatrical because I think we’ve learned an awful lot.
    Barron: We have learned a lot.
    Heyman: David Yates is approaching 3D from a character point of view.
    Barron: It’s a storytelling aid. Rather than being a special effect gimmick where it’s like “Oh that’s cool.” We’re using it to help tell the story better.
    Heyman: It’s probably gonna be more subtle than on some films, we’re not gonna have tons of stuff flying out the screen, we’ll have some but not much. The depth will not necessarily be as great as some films. But it will make the film feel larger, be more immersive, and I think it will add to the stories as opposed to take away.


    Do you guys ever envision a 3D conversion of the earlier films and also the theatrical re-release of them in 3D?

    Heyman: We haven’t’ talked about it but I won’t be surprised if that happens. I don’t know about theatrical but I suspect in 3D that will go on.


    What’s the running time of the final film?

    Barron: It will be one of the shortest films.
    Heyman: It will be the shortest film.


    So what does that mean?

    Heyman: We don’t know yet, because we’re still editing.
    Barron: It’s not a short film, but it will be shorter than the others.


    When I spoke to you guys last time, you mentioned that the last film was much more of an action film. Is that still the case?

    Heyman: It’s not non-stop action, but it’s a lot of action. But, one the the things that makes Harry Potter so special is it’s not just action, not just magic, it’s characters, humanity and truth.
    Barron: And a strong emotional core.
    Heyman: And that’s what this film has: a real strong emotional center. So yeah there’s a lot of action, and it’s a really thrilling ride, and it ends with the final confrontation with Voldemort with Harry, but most importantly it’s a film that moves you and it makes you really involved and invested in the characters.
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  • greggreg Posts: 737 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    Oh god that sucks :O Part 1 was 2h10 min (of film not credits) and now Part 2 will be even more shorter :( We have to see the film first... maybe it's extremely good but... i don't know... I hope they are not editing too much the movie
  • GinaCGinaC Posts: 828 ✭✭
    I don't care much about the length as long as it's done justice. They did get about 2/3 of the book done in Part 1, so hopefully all will be well. I will, however, be pissed if they have cut a lot of the most-anticipated moments just to add their own made-up stuff and then say they just didn't have time to include everything.... I guess we'll learn a lot this weekend!
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Well, the film will definitely be at least 120 minutes. SS is 145 minutes, CoS is 152 minutes, PoA is 130 minutes, GoF is 143 minutes, OotP is 129 minutes, HBP is 143 minutes and DH1 is 134 minutes (without end credits).

    So Barron said that the film will be one of the 'shortest' ones (so around 130-140 minutes, around the same running time of PoA, OotP and DH1 which are the 'shortest' HP films) and Heyman said it will be the 'shortest' (probably around 125-130 minutes without end credits).

    They're still editing the film. Don't forget. Quality over quantity. They only have to adapt 200 pages of the book, not 400 that Part I had to adapt. I want the film to flow well, though. What I loved about Part I was the vast improvement on the editing, especially in the second half of the film. I know that Part II has a lot of action and fast pacing is needed, but I want them to take their time, this is the final installment after all.

    Don't forget. They're still editing the film. I guess that the film will be as long as Part I. I expect a 135-minute film without end credits.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Yeah and don't forget that we've got the test-screening as well. They probably want to show this version of the film and see what the reactions are.

    The test-screening really helped them create Part I's final cut. They improved the Godric's Hollow sequence which was rather bashed as being very weirdly and abruptly edited and they cut camping scenes that a lot of people found too slow-paced. So I guess that if people see that there are rushed moments or too slow-paced ones, they'll mention it and the filmmakers will take of that. After all, Yates promised that he wants Part II to be the 'perfect' installment.
  • KranenKranen Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NO :'( They better not cut anything!
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  • greggreg Posts: 737 ✭✭✭
    How do you know if they cut scene after test screening of Part I?
  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am now expecting rushed action sequences.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    They did cut stuff from Part I. Especially during the camping scenes. But they add, as well (they made Godric's Hollow flow better in Part I, added McGonagall's scene in HBP).

    I fear that the action sequences will be fast-paced and short. I'm sure they'll be really impressive and all, but they'll be short.
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a disappointing day.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    You know what? I don't really believe this. I saw the video and Heyman has this very notorious smile. Maybe they're fooling us just to cause reactions? I mean, yes Part II will be one of the 'shortest' Harry Potter films (somewhere around 135 minutes without end credits), but Heyman says immediately: 'It's the shortest' and he smiles evilly :P Dunno, he says right afterwards: 'Well, we're still EDITING the film, we don't know for sure'.

    I feel they said that just to fool us.
  • Lord_DarkeyesLord_Darkeyes Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭✭
    It's true, the shooting script was 118 pages. A little over 2 hrs
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  • Lord_DarkeyesLord_Darkeyes Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭✭
    At least it good to know this before hand and let it sink in. Better getting used to it before than walking into the theater mad
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Don't know if it really is an April Fool's trick, but I think they mess with the fans. You know, it's one of the shortest of the series, oh no it's the shortest, well, you know, we're still editing it so we don't know for sure. :P
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Yates said that the script didn't have as many battle scenes as they eventually put in the film, so they added some stuff there, as well.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Wasn't the shooting script of Part I 120 pages?
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, at least we know that they've now failed at the exposition part of the films, because the whole point of two isn't to make two of the shortest lot... its no make the best you can, as long as it is and can be.

    They failed within Part 1 at this aspect, and now they've undoubtably done so with Part 2.

    If any of you say it will be fine at 130-135 minutes, then you're ridiculously dumb as that would make it less than 2 hours footage, which is completely unacceptable for a big film like this... Part 1 had 17 minutes of credits and made 2 hours and 9 minutes footage, OOTP had 2 hours and 3 minutes of footage. To put it quite simply, Mark Day is the worst thing to have happened to the series, and i don't care what people says otherwise anymore about him, thats the truth!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So perhaps the footage of the actual film is right at 2 hours, and they were talking just about the footage, not the credits?
    Which doesn't allow enough time for the exposition side of things, unfortunately... no matter how much any of you (including the filmmakers themselves) try to deny it, and point out exceptions, of which there are none. Part 1 failed at that, and now this one will also.

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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Mark Day isn't the one who decides these things. If we must blame someone, then it's the Davids.

    Part I flowed very well during most of it. I was quite impressed with Mark Day. I think that the film should have been 10-15 minutes longer.

    Lord Stafford, don't forget that they've got to adapt 200 pages in 2 hours, not 700 as it happened with OotP.

    I've downloaded the BR of Part I and the running time is 134 minutes without end credits and 146 minutes including them.

    I think that Part II will be 130-135 minutes long, without end credits. Since they say that it's a bit longer than 2 hours, I guess 130 and definitely without end credits, they haven't finished them.
    So the film will be roughly around 140-145 minutes, including them. It sounds fine to me.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    I think that they did a fine job with Part I when it came to exposition. Things were a bit rushed in few scenes, characters came and went by (mostly in the first half) and some things were left unclear (the Dumbledore's Past arc comes to my mind), but I think that these gaps will be filled in Part II with the scenes including Aberforth and Dumbledore later.

    Anyway, we can't judge Part I until we see Part II as well. That's Part I's weakness. If Part II manages to handle these storylines, then Part I will be appreciated much more.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mark Day isn't the one who decides these things. If we must blame someone, then it's the Davids.

    Part I flowed very well during most of it. I was quite impressed with Mark Day. I think that the film should have been 10-15 minutes longer.

    Lord Stafford, don't forget that they've got to adapt 200 pages in 2 hours, not 700 as it happened with OotP.

    I've downloaded the BR of Part I and the running time is 134 minutes without end credits and 146 minutes including them.

    I think that Part II will be 130-135 minutes long, without end credits. Since they say that it's a bit longer than 2 hours, I guess 130 and definitely without end credits, they haven't finished them.
    So the film will be roughly around 140-145 minutes, including them. It sounds fine to me.
    Well, i didn't want to blame all the David's (even though they're mostly to blame) because i know i'll get my head bitten off by the ass kissers that go against anything that i say.

    Oh, you're right... but Day is still incompotent for me and most other HP fans, the film wasn't flowing well because of him, it should have been longer, yes. Even though it was a good film and it flowed well, they DID fail at the exposition which was the whole point and benefit of making two films, was it not? Now it seems that it WAS indeed for the money!

    Maybe you're version is different to others because it has been confirmed that the end credits of Part 1 were 17 minutes long, meaning... that with 146 minutes, it was 2 hours and 9 minutes of footage, 129 minutes.

    A bit longer than 2 hours isn't 10, 15 minutes worth... its now expected and destined to be about the same length of OOTP which was a complete and utter shambles in terms of editing.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Cyber-LogicCyber-Logic Posts: 508 ✭✭
    Fuck, I thought this was an April's Fool thing. :-/
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So yeah... if they said it is the shortest, I don't think they mean by much. It could be a minute shorter than OoTP... so don't panic!!!

    When filmmakers talk about a film being shorter than the other, they would never say that if it was 1 minute or 2 shorter, so... that means, what with OOTP having 2 hours and 3 minutes of actual footage that Part 2 is bound to be dead on the dot of 2 hours or a few minutes less.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    First, Malfoy Manor and Dobby's burial were supposed to be shown in Part II. This part of the film was 13 minutes long.

    And Part I was supposed to have around 10 minutes that they cut out because of that addition. So Part I was supposed to be 130 minutes long and Part II was supposed to be 145 minutes long. Add the end credits and you have 142 and 157 minutes. But they expanded Part I even though they cut few stuff and made it 146 minutes and I guess that Part II will be around 142 minutes as well. I'm not freaking out, not yet.


    Fury, they definitely don't include the end credits. They don't work on them until the final weeks of post-production. The speculated 125-135 minutes don't include end credits. Adding them, the film will be around 140-145 minutes.
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    lol @ Lord_Stafford
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First, Malfoy Manor and Dobby's burial were supposed to be shown in Part II. This part of the film was 13 minutes long.

    And Part I was supposed to have around 10 minutes that they cut out because of that addition. So Part I was supposed to be 130 minutes long and Part II was supposed to be 145 minutes long. Add the end credits and you have 142 and 157 minutes. But they expanded Part I even though they cut few stuff and made it 146 minutes and I guess that Part II will be around 142 minutes as well. I'm not freaking out, not yet.


    Fury, they definitely don't include the end credits. They don't work on them until the final weeks of post-production. The speculated 125-135 minutes don't include end credits. Adding them, the film will be around 140-145 minutes.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Well, I don't know what to say guys...

    Let's wait for the test screenings tomorrow. We'll find out a lot more about that.

    I insist that they're messing with us a bit. It's one of the shortest, it's the shortest, well we don't know yet, we're still editing. It's all very vague at this point.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They cut exactly 21 minutes out from the test screening for the actual release of Part 1. The test screening one was 2 hours and 33 minutes without the end credits included and it cut vastly cut down. I truly and deeply fear for Part 2 as Yates and Day now have a full 3 months to mess around with it, even though he (Day) said that both films would be around 140 minutes long.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They cut exactly 21 minutes out from the test screening for the actual release of Part 1. The test screening one was 2 hours and 33 minutes without the end credits included and it cut vastly cut down. I truly and deeply fear for Part 2 as Yates and Day now have a full 3 months to mess around with it, even though he (Day) said that both films would be around 140 minutes long.

    Lord Stafford.
    No it wasn't. We never got an official runtime except for a vauge estimate of 2.5 hours.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I don't know what to say guys...

    Let's wait for the test screenings tomorrow. We'll find out a lot more about that.

    I insist that they're messing with us a bit. It's one of the shortest, it's the shortest, well we don't know yet, we're still editing. It's all very vague at this point.
    I hope you're right, but its hard to believe anything good when something as big and great as this is ending!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    Don't know if it really is an April Fool's trick, but I think they mess with the fans. You know, it's one of the shortest of the series, oh no it's the shortest, well, you know, we're still editing it so we don't know for sure. :P
    :-)) I think it's too early to say it'll be the "shortest" or whatever. But all the fans pissed about the runtime is hilarious! Chillax people, I'm sure it'll be fine. They know what they're doing.

  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They cut exactly 21 minutes out from the test screening for the actual release of Part 1. The test screening one was 2 hours and 33 minutes without the end credits included and it cut vastly cut down. I truly and deeply fear for Part 2 as Yates and Day now have a full 3 months to mess around with it, even though he (Day) said that both films would be around 140 minutes long.

    Lord Stafford.
    No it wasn't. We never got an official runtime except for a vauge estimate of 2.5 hours.


    Well, i read around on numerous websites (including here) and saw 2 hours and 33 minutes, and in other words... 2.5 hours, like you just said.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't know if it really is an April Fool's trick, but I think they mess with the fans. You know, it's one of the shortest of the series, oh no it's the shortest, well, you know, we're still editing it so we don't know for sure. :P
    :-)) I think it's too early to say it'll be the "shortest" or whatever. But all the fans pissed about the runtime is hilarious! Chillax people, I'm sure it'll be fine. They know what they're doing.

    Again, i hope you're right, but they sure as hell didn't know what they were doing with OOTP in any case...

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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    I think they want to make the best finale, they won't disappoint. So I have faith in them. And it's early days yet, anyway. They're still editing, they're waiting to show the film tomorrow and see what the reactions are, and I'm sure they want to create the best finale for the series. I have faith in them.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think they want to make the best finale, they won't disappoint. So I have faith in them. And it's early days yet, anyway. They're still editing, they're waiting to show the film tomorrow and see what the reactions are, and I'm sure they want to create the best finale for the series. I have faith in them.
    I still have faith, but i'm losing it... a barely 2 hour Potter finale isn't the way to go out with a bang, and a well deserved one at that. It just isn't the right way to go about it, It should be at least Part 1's length or possibly around HBP's. (footage for HBP was 2 hours and 18 minutes, around the same for GOF)

    Lord Stafford.

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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    I have a feeling that the footage will be actually the same as Part 1's. But we'll see! Don't freak out! :-)

    Let's wait for the test-screening reviews. The next few days will be big. We'll learn a lot about how they handled a lot of storylines and arcs, how grand and long the battle is and a lot more.
  • VinceVince Posts: 292
    I have trouble taking movies seriously if they are not at least two hours long. When you break something like Deathly Hallows into two films, you do it because you want to get away with as much exploration of the material as possible. That is, you cram everything you can into those two movies. Other Potter films have been just fine at around the 2 and a half hour mark; why make these two movies less? They are probably justifying it by thinking that they are technically one movie, so that's a long, four hour movie... But why not do more if they can do more? That's just my personal opinion. If things are done correctly, a two hour movie can be very good: it MAY be enough to be a great finale. But I still think they could have done two longer movies, around 150 minutes each, minus the credits.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a feeling that the footage will be actually the same as Part 1's. But we'll see! Don't freak out! :-)

    Let's wait for the test-screening reviews. The next few days will be big. We'll learn a lot about how they handled a lot of storylines and arcs, how grand and long the battle is and a lot more.
    I'm not freaking out... yet.

    Remember that the lengths of films like this in test screening are very rarely in league with the actual release that we get, so whatever they get above the normality of the latter films, we won't, simple as... they tend to cut alot out for some unknown reason!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have trouble taking movies seriously if they are not at least two hours long. When you break something like Deathly Hallows into two films, you do it because you want to get away with as much exploration of the material as possible. That is, you cram everything you can into those two movies. Other Potter films have been just fine at around the 2 and a half hour mark; why make these two movies less? They are probably justifying it by thinking that they are technically one movie, so that's a long, four hour movie... But why not do more if they can do more? That's just my personal opinion. If things are done correctly, a two hour movie can be very good: it MAY be enough to be a great finale. But I still think they could have done two longer movies, around 150 minutes each, minus the credits.
    That is exactly what i've been saying and thinking out loud, its a shame that the earlier films are the longest, even though they're the shortest books... they'll be far more remembered and celebrated for being done the right way. Whereas the latters are near enough the shorter ones and won't be as taken to because of it (particularly with Yates and Day who don't seem to understand and get the point) the books are the longest, so how? Like seriously!

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