Deathly Hallows Part 2 length...

Lord Stafford

... I'm not going to say i believe it, and i'm also equally not going to say that i don't believe it. But i thought of this as a good oppurtunity for us all to debate about what we all think the length will hopefully be.

I think (very unfortunately) because of the small amount of pages we have left for the film, it will likely be about Part 1's length, or even less. (god, please forbid it)

I hope it will be around what the website below says, and whilst it is very unlikely... i can still hope, but with heavy caution! So, what do you guys think?

http://www.eventcinemas.com.au/Movie/Harry-Potter-And-The-Deathly-Hallows-Part-2

Lord Stafford.

Nick

well im not getting my hopes up so i think it will be exactly 2 hours and 5 minutes the exact length of dh1 which is fine by me

Jason

I think (very unfortunately) because of the small amount of pages we have left for the film, it will likely be about Part 1's length, or even less. (god, please forbid it)

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Thing with Part 1 is that it did have some sub-plots that can be cut. Part 2 is an on-going story, almost everything in the book from what will be in Part 2 are essential to the story.

I think it will be around 2 hours and 20 minutes.

Lord Stafford

not true, because the movie isnt finished yet and because of that the length couldnt be said

That is why i first brought this up, to create a good old discussion with it.

Lord Stafford.

Lord_Darkeyes

I heard that too. It would be cool if so, but most likely, Part 1 was originally almost 3hrs w/ deleted scenes, so hopefully, there will be no deleted scenes. There's really no room for unnecessary scenes in DH2

Nick

i dont care about the length as long as the the storylines are tied up and evreyone gets a proper send off and there are no GLARING HUGE plot holes

Lord_Darkeyes

not true, because the movie isnt finished yet and because of that the length couldnt be said

There is indeed a rough cut of the film, just mean it has no effects whatsover, and is 0% polished. They just took all the scenes they recorded with no editing, or effects, so it could be longer or shorter, but that was the length of the rough cut.

Lord Stafford

i dont care about the length as long as the the storylines are tied up and evreyone gets a proper send off and there are no GLARING HUGE plot holes

You really weird, you are, if you don't mind me saying? Even weirder than me, and that is saying something, believe me. You should care about the length, because they may tie things up, but they also might fuck it up by making everything into 5 minute scenes!

Lord Stafford.

Richard

2hr 40 min? no way

Lord Stafford

2hr 40 min? no way

Well, that is what it should be, with any luck it will be... but since when have we ever had luck, eh?!

Lord Stafford.

Nick

oh god lord stafford is starting it again.....look the movie will be awesome regardless of its length

Lord Stafford

oh god lord stafford is starting it again.....look the movie will be awesome regardless of its length

I'm not starting anything, actually... if anyone is, it's you, for even bringing something such as that into this! And besides, i'm just wishing that the filmmakers wouldn't feel restricted all the time into keeping the latter films all below 2 hours 20 minutes.

Lord Stafford.

Nick

the movie will be great dh1 was amazing was it not? i cant see them screwing part 2 up its just not gonna happen

Nick

well length means nothing to me i care about the story getting closure storylines tied off and no plot holes if that can be done in 2 hours and 5 minutes thats fine by me

Lord Stafford

the movie will be great dh1 was amazing was it not? i cant see them screwing part 2 up its just not gonna happen

Since when has the simple and singular word 'luck' had anything remotely to do with this final Potter film that we're all awaiting and anticipating it to go out with a bang... i was talking in general about the luck (or lack of) that we get when it comes to certain things?

Lord Stafford.

Lord Stafford

well length means nothing to me i care about the story getting closure storylines tied off and no plot holes if that can be done in 2 hours and 5 minutes thats fine by me

Well, nothing in this last one is not important, so... it can't be done in your clear ideal length idea.

Lord Stafford.

Nick

according to YOU. im sure yates knows what he is doing.

Lord Stafford

according to YOU. im sure yates knows what he is doing.

Of course he does, but does Mark Day? He sure didn't in OOTP and perhaps DHP1, which i wanted longer... but they choose to cut out near to 20 minutes!

Lord Stafford.

TheDoctor

according to YOU. im sure yates knows what he is doing.

Of course he does, but does Mark Day? He sure didn't in OOTP and perhaps DHP1, which i wanted longer... but they choose to cut out near to 20 minutes!

Lord Stafford.

I don't think we can exactly blame Mark Day for doing what all movie editors do.

Nick

yea but did it really hurt the story? nope

Lord Stafford

according to YOU. im sure yates knows what he is doing.

Of course he does, but does Mark Day? He sure didn't in OOTP and perhaps DHP1, which i wanted longer... but they choose to cut out near to 20 minutes!

Lord Stafford.

I don't think we can exactly blame Mark Day for doing what all movie editors do.

What, for cutting out 20 minutes? (not including deleted scenes, though)

Lord Stafford.

Lord Stafford

yea but did it really hurt the story? nope

Who knows? We'll never know, but still... are you happy that they cut 20 minutes out of it, i don't think so!

Lord Stafford.

Nick

im fine with it the movie was good it did what it needed to do it set up the story of the deathly hallows.

Lord_Darkeyes

I'd really like the movie to be longer, but it really doesn't matte, if they get everything in there, and they add a little more action, then it's alright with me.

Bane

Part 1 was pretty perfect IMO. I think Part 2 will be just as long, if not longer. If it is longer, it will only be by a bit.

However, I must reiterate, that even if Part 2 is the same length as Part 1, both parts combined will run for over 4 hours. I find myself in a very difficult position to complain about that, when it could have been a very rushed 2.5 hour film.

Lord_Darkeyes

Part 1 was pretty perfect IMO. I think Part 2 will be just as long, if not longer. If it is longer, it will only be by a bit.

However, I must reiterate, that even if Part 2 is the same length as Part 1, both parts combined will run for over 4 hours. I find myself in a very difficult position to complain about that, when it could have been a very rushed 2.5 hour film.

I was first very mad about that, but then I realized, it was the greatest decision of the producers. Then all other movies copy it. I have read Breaking Dawn, and it can EASILY be one movie, DH couldn't. and I hope BD is not in 3D, I don't want her baby popping out at me!!

Lord_Darkeyes

However, I must reiterate, that even if Part 2 is the same length as Part 1, both parts combined will run for over 4 hours. I find myself in a very difficult position to complain about that, when it could have been a very rushed 2.5 hour film.

Agreed! Together, it is a movie that is almost 5 hours! That is like... AWESOME.

I think it's be cool if after both DH 1 and 2 come out on dvd, they should release another oneof the two movies combined.

Darth Ledger

However, I must reiterate, that even if Part 2 is the same length as Part 1, both parts combined will run for over 4 hours. I find myself in a very difficult position to complain about that, when it could have been a very rushed 2.5 hour film.

Agreed! Together, it is a movie that is almost 5 hours! That is like... AWESOME.

I think it's be cool if after both DH 1 and 2 come out on dvd, they should release another oneof the two movies combined.

I would be HIGHLY dissapointed if they didn't release a blu-ray of it as one film later on.

Lord_Darkeyes

However, I must reiterate, that even if Part 2 is the same length as Part 1, both parts combined will run for over 4 hours. I find myself in a very difficult position to complain about that, when it could have been a very rushed 2.5 hour film.

Agreed! Together, it is a movie that is almost 5 hours! That is like... AWESOME.

I think it's be cool if after both DH 1 and 2 come out on dvd, they should release another oneof the two movies combined.

We were just discussing this on Tinychat. We'd have to see how Part 2 begins to see if it would do well. By which I mean, if Voldy grabbing the wand and pointing it into the sky, would fuse well as a scene, with the first scene of DH2.

If they did that, I'm sure they would show a black screen, and maybe fast paced credits in between. I think DH2 opens with an extended scene of the last DH1 scene.

TheDoctor

I really hope they don't open Part 2 with any of the Voldemort taking Elder Wand scene.

Pensieve Seeker

I'd be fine with the movie being around 135-140 minutes, not including the credits.

Bane

Yeah it looks like Part 2 will open at Shell Cottage, with Dobby's proper burial stone in place. I like the idea of it starting with Harry sort of reminiscing the events up to that point as well as getting ready for what's to come.

Festax0333

2 hrs 25 mins is my guess

Pensieve Seeker

Yeah it looks like Part 2 will open at Shell Cottage, with Dobby's proper burial stone in place. I like the idea of it starting with Harry sort of reminiscing the events up to that point as well as getting ready for what's to come.

I could see this happening after the title card appears.

Lord_Darkeyes

Yeah it looks like Part 2 will open at Shell Cottage, with Dobby's proper burial stone in place. I like the idea of it starting with Harry sort of reminiscing the events up to that point as well as getting ready for what's to come.

That's how it was in my script. He reminiscing at Dobby's grave.

Bane

Oh, and the number of book pages means absolutely zilch when it comes to screenwriting and filmmaking. Look at Order of the Phoenix. It was really, really long. But the number of pages, IMO, did not represent the actual plot much. When people complained "bahhh how come it's the longest book but the shortest movie waaah!!!" they must have not realized that the book contained so much filler it was ridiculous.

Just because the "number of pages" left from the book that makes up Part 2 isn't a great deal does not bear any impact on the actual running length at all. I've always said, and this is one of the greatest things about the book, that even though all this stuff takes place in the last couple hundred pages, most of it is extremely important and by splitting the work load across two films, they'll be able to flesh out things much better.

So yeah, it really depends on the script. You could easily, easily write a screenplay for a 2.5 hour film (or more!) based on what's left from the book.

Lord_Darkeyes

Oh, and the number of book pages means absolutely zilch when it comes to screenwriting and filmmaking. Look at Order of the Phoenix. It was really, really long. But the number of pages, IMO, did not represent the actual plot much. When people complained "bahhh how come it's the longest book but the shortest movie waaah!!!" they must have not realized that the book contained so much filler it was ridiculous.

Just because the "number of pages" left from the book that makes up Part 2 isn't a great deal does not bear any impact on the actual running length at all. I've always said, and this is one of the greatest things about the book, that even though all this stuff takes place in the last couple hundred pages, most of it is extremely important and by splitting the work load across two films, they'll be able to flesh out things much better.

So yeah, it really depends on the script. You could easily, easily write a screenplay for a 2.5 hour film (or more!) based on what's left from the book.

Very much agreed! I would like a longer Gringotts escape scene, more action packed. And defiantly the BoH will be the reason why its might be 2.5 hours, instead of 2 hrs.

blackvenom

Well, I tend to believe that Part II will be one of the longest HP films. They just can't cut anything. Shell Cottage, Gringotts, Hogsmeade, Battle preparations, Chamber of Secrets, Room of Requirement, first half of the Battle of Hogwarts, Snape's death, Snape's memories, The Forest Again, King Cross, second half of the Battle, final confrontation, aftermath, Epilogue...I think that the running time (without end credits) will be at least 130 minutes. In Part I, there were unnecessary bits so I understand why the total runtime was 146 minutes (still huge for 400 pages). In Part II, they really can't cut anything. And we know that they've added a lot of new sequences in the film, in order to explain everything and make it even more action-packed. I think that the film will be around 155 minutes long.

Festax0333

Whatever it takes to do the rest of the story justice, which honestly I don't think needs to be more then 2 hours. There's less then a third of the book left to put on screen and I'd rather not see them stretch it too thin. Instead give us a tightly paced race to the finish, a heart pounding 2 hour finale!

:-|

Jason

Whatever it takes to do the rest of the story justice, which honestly I don't think needs to be more then 2 hours. There's less then a third of the book left to put on screen and I'd rather not see them stretch it too thin. Instead give us a tightly paced race to the finish, a heart pounding 2 hour finale!

2 hours?
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Festax0333

heart pouding 2 hours, followed by years of angry fans

Festax0333

Well if you want it to go out with a bang, and not a slow whimper...

no, if we want it to go out with a strong resolve, character arcs coming to their full close, a plausible climax and strong and a well paced story, it would be more than 2 hours

Richard

it will be 2hr 18 min

Richard

without credits...

aaron

I predict the film will be 2 hours and 25 minutes with credits, or 145 minutes.

GodricGryffindor

I'll have to go
with 157 MINUTES
(WITH CREDITS)

2 HOURS AND 37 MINUTES




G.G.

TheDoctor

From when they apparate into Hogsmeade through the last shot before the epilogue should be at LEAST 1.5 hours.

blackvenom

Well:
Hogsmeade (6 minutes)
Dumbledore's Army (4 minutes)
Snape's Flight (5 minutes)
Protections/Evacuation (5 minutes)
Chamber of Secrets/Battle Begins/Grey Lady (8 minutes)
Room of Requirement (5 minutes)
Battle of Hogwarts I (15 minutes)
Snape's Death (5 minutes)
Loss & Memories (8 minutes)
Forest Again (7 minutes)
King Cross (5 minutes)
Voldemort Victorious (5 minutes)
Battle of Hogwarts II (10 minutes)
Harry VS Voldemort (7 minutes)
Aftermath (6 minutes)
Epilogue (4 minutes)

105 minutes. AT LEAST. Add Shell Cottage, Gringotts and everything else and we've got at least a 135-minute film.

Lord_Darkeyes

Well:
Hogsmeade (6 minutes)
Dumbledore's Army (4 minutes)
Snape's Flight (5 minutes)
Protections/Evacuation (5 minutes)
Chamber of Secrets/Battle Begins/Grey Lady (8 minutes)
Room of Requirement (5 minutes)
Battle of Hogwarts I (15 minutes)
Snape's Death (5 minutes)
Loss & Memories (8 minutes)
Forest Again (7 minutes)
King Cross (5 minutes)
Voldemort Victorious (5 minutes)
Battle of Hogwarts II (10 minutes)
Harry VS Voldemort (7 minutes)
Aftermath (6 minutes)
Epilogue (4 minutes)

105 minutes. AT LEAST. Add Shell Cottage, Gringotts and everything else and we've got at least a 135-minute film.

I think the actual battle of Hogwarts will be longer than 10 minutes,

blackvenom

I know. That's why I said this is the shortest running time of this section of the film. I think that it will surpass HBP and GoF's running time

dobby_freak19

Huh? Never said less then 2 hours. :-? You're right, that would be a little rushed. It certainly doesn't need to be any longer then Part 1 though.

I just cant see why u guys dont get it....it needs to! Because all the subplots. I think that´s why they left so less chapters for art 2. todo everything calm. and i think it´ll be longer than part 1.