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The mystery scene REVEALED?!

starlstarl Posts: 120
edited March 2011 in General
The mystery scene is said to be were voldemort realises Harry is alive! After waking during an epic battle in the courtyard Harry goes after voldemort! Harry corners voldemort in a tower above the courtyard! Alone Voldemort binds him and interrogates him! 'why do you live'? The elder wand lore is explained but voldemort doesn't believe Harry! Harry says ,'kill me' then etc'
Voldemort releases him from his binds and says he wants the wizrding world to know he killed Harry potter, he wants to be seem doing it and they agree a duel to the death!
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  • BlackCatScottBlackCatScott Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    Where did you see this then?
  • SlanteeSlantee Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭
    God, I seriously hope this is a joke...

    I would like the fact that Harry isn't actually dead to remain a secret for those not in the know. I think they should even film it such that it's a mystery, that we don't actually see Harry wake up. So like have the King's Cross part where Harry is told by Dumbledore what his choices are and then cut away from Harry's perspective and see the rest of it through the others eyes until Harry gloriously emerges (at this point maybe have a flashback to show what happened after he "died") or something. Idk, I don't write scripts, it's just an idea...I think keeping an element of suspense around this would be ideal. Anyone else agree with me?
    I like the part about keeping it a mystery, but it won't work. I don't think the flashback would really flow well with the battle. Also, they would have to show Narcissa asking Harry about Draco so the audience will already know that Harry's alive.
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  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    I still think they'll keep it as an element of suspense and that they won't show that Harry is actually alive until Voldemort sees that he is in the tower. As far as the Narcissa asking Harry about Draco part goes, they could show her from behind kneeling and bent over him to check and see if he's still alive, but not show the asking part.
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  • acciohpacciohp Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭
  • GinaCGinaC Posts: 828 ✭✭
    edited March 2011
    I think we will be as "in the know" as we were in the book. I think we need to hear Narcissa ask Harry if her son is alive--and the actress said this was her favorite scene--so that we know her loyalties have changed after Voldemort was totally unconcerned for Draco's life. I think it would just seem silly for Harry to suddenly pop up and emerge like that. Playing dead was hard for him to do, and I think we need to see that.

    Edit: However, that does not mean that Harry's fate needs to be obvious in trailers and promos! I hope they'll be careful about that.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    I think that the battle will start and there will be mayhem. Potter will probably be absent for a great deal of time. The battle recommences, Nagini, Bellatrix etc. are killed, there is more destruction and we see glimpses of Hagrid and others shouting Harry's name and searching for him. Then, I guess that there may be a long silence after Bellatrix's death and Potter will appear or something. He will run to the top of the tower in order to make Voldemort follow him and get away from the others. Then, their little battle will begin and they'll be fighting all the way down to the Great Hall and the Courtyard/Bridge where the final duel will take place.

    That's what I think that may happen. That way, they'll keep the element of surprise as it was in the book, expand the confrontation in a few more places and end it all in a grand way at the castle's courtyard/viaduct.
  • acciohpacciohp Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭
    I really want them to show the reactions of the other charachters to Harry's "death". Hermione, Ron, McGonagall, etc
  • GinaCGinaC Posts: 828 ✭✭
    I really want them to show the reactions of the other charachters to Harry's "death". Hermione, Ron, McGonagall, etc
    Yes! I loved them screaming "No!" in the book and it being so hard for Harry to hear.
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    *shrug* sounds awesome to me.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭✭
    I really want them to show the reactions of the other charachters to Harry's "death". Hermione, Ron, McGonagall, etc
    I agree with this.
    As cool as I think LC's idea is, I like the idea that we could see everyone's reactions to Harry "dead".

  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    I thought harry sets him on fire :(
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
    I really want them to show the reactions of the other charachters to Harry's "death". Hermione, Ron, McGonagall, etc
    I agree with this.
    As cool as I think LC's idea is, I like the idea that we could see everyone's reactions to Harry "dead".

    I think we will see that! I mean we´ve had shots of the great hall with neville and the sword and everybody retreating back in...so i guess the scene with neville and before that shuld happen the same way, but perhaps harry and voldemort go alone to that tower to confront themselves i dont know how the continuity will work but i think the scene of mourning is in...it should be it´s a very moving moment in the book
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  • acciohpacciohp Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭
    ScarPotter tweeted the video could be divulged in the next 60 min (however take it as a rumor)
    that was about 30 minutes ago.
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this sounds cheesy
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
    Pepper Jack! :-|
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cheddar is the best
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    seriously am i the only one who thinks the content of that scene just sounds bad?
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    seriously am i the only one who thinks the content of that scene just sounds bad?
    No, you're certainly not the only one. You would be right in calling it crap, much like with the former dialogue and the 'Only i can live... Forever' line apparently being said in the final duel between Harry and Voldy.

    It kind of remind's me (if true) of the shit, and total lack of effort lines used in the OOTP mini confrontation, again between them.

    If the massive plot change we heard about (from Heyman, i think) is this, then i'm going to be very disappointed indeed... surely it's not that, because if so then i'll be pissed and incredibly upset (for the first time) because they would have ruined the ending.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just thought of an example! :) Did the modern master Christopher Nolan not do something similar...Lt. Gordon "dies", anyone remember that? :p

    Pardon? Yes, i do remember it, but still... :-?

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh nothing, just an example of how you can pull a fast one on the audience and later say "haha, just joking, he's not really dead...we fooled you!" B-)
    Oh, now i get it... lol, good one! =D>

    Lord Stafford.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're right, he's better. :)
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
    You're right, he's better. :)
    Bullshit, is he! Has he ever made a masterpiece of his own writing? No. Nolan has. Good joke though... :-j

    Lord Stafford.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He hasn't made any films that I like more than Half-Blood or Part 1.

    I suppose it helps that I think Nolan is incredibly overrated.
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think mainly because Nolan never gets any emotion out of me. He's a good, creative director but his films leave me feeling relatively empty.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He hasn't made any films that I like more than Half-Blood or Part 1.

    I suppose it helps that I think Nolan is incredibly overrated.
    Oh, Nolan is certainly not the best, but nor is Yates, Nolan is better. Rightly so... you like Yates HP films more than anything else because its you're opinion, and you're of course entitled to it.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yates is a tv director he has never had to do big set pieces
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eh, neither film did much for me, though Inception was much better than Memento.
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, I have quite a breadth of knowledge about film. It has nothing to do with that, but of course that's the first counter-argument people always go to.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think mainly because Nolan never gets any emotion out of me. He's a good, creative director but his films leave me feeling relatively empty.
    Well, Nolan doesn't make them for emotional content, he is just a genius in what he does do... and Yates isn't really responsible for the latter films being emotional, because it was JK who wrote something to be made on the big silver screen as emotional.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Right but I'm the kind of guy who prefers emotion and good character strengths over a lot else.

    Frankly, Nolan has never gotten much out of me during any of his films, aside from Batman Begins.

    He also gains zilch from the way he handled Rachel in The Dark Knight. I'm not the biggest fan of Katie Holmes, but at least Rachel was likable in the first film. And when she died in TDK, nobody cared, because Nolan is terrible at emotion. He's also not very good with action sequences either.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
    Right but I'm the kind of guy who prefers emotion and good character strengths over a lot else.

    Frankly, Nolan has never gotten much out of me during any of his films, aside from Batman Begins.

    He also gains zilch from the way he handled Rachel in The Dark Knight. I'm not the biggest fan of Katie Holmes, but at least Rachel was likable in the first film. And when she died in TDK, nobody cared, because Nolan is terrible at emotion. He's also not very good with action sequences either.
    It's why Titanic is alot better than Avatar.

    Rachel looks like a man in TDK, plus i don't particularly like Maggie G, and not because she has a massive head, i mean it because of her acting, she just doesn't do anything for me.

    If Nolan is not very good at action, then i can't even imagine what Yates is.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In effect, Yates is really very lucky to be in the position that he is in right now. He had never done anything previously that warranted him being called up to the big films, so i don't know why, and what whoever saw in him. He is good, but still... he isn't THAT good, and not in the class of top class directors.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    In effect, Yates is really very lucky to be in the position that he is in right now. He had never done anything previously that warranted him being called up to the big films, so i don't know why, and what whoever saw in him. He is good, but still... he isn't THAT good, and not in the class of top class directors.

    Lord Stafford.
    He was working on a film version if Brideshead Revisited for Warner Independent Pictures in 2004. He was set to work with Paul Bettany, Jude Law and Jennifer Connelly but the project failed because of budget issues. Then he was called by his agent as Heyman was a big fan of his previous stuff, so I think it was about time he transitioned from his TV works to the film world.

  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In effect, Yates is really very lucky to be in the position that he is in right now. He had never done anything previously that warranted him being called up to the big films, so i don't know why, and what whoever saw in him. He is good, but still... he isn't THAT good, and not in the class of top class directors.

    Lord Stafford.
    He was working on a film version if Brideshead Revisited for Warner Independent Pictures in 2004. He was set to work with Paul Bettany, Jude Law and Jennifer Connelly but the project failed because of budget issues. Then he was called by his agent as Heyman was a big fan of his previous stuff, so I think it was about time he transitioned from his TV works to the film world.

    Oh, i'm definetely not denying his potential, but... he isn't exactly a world beater on the same level as Cameron, Spielberg, Lucas, Jackson, Del Toro, and even some of the other Potter directors such as Cuaron.

    Lord Stafford.

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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anyways......i think this scene will either be really good or really cheesy its already leaning towards cheesy with that line only i can live forever
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anyways......i think this scene will either be really good or really cheesy its already leaning towards cheesy with that line only i can live forever
    Absolutely so...

    Lord Stafford.

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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so will we be seeing this scene in the previews on abc family tonight? is this part of the final courtyard battle scene? Because if it is that title is misleading because this looks nothing like the courtyard.
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so will we be seeing this scene in the previews on abc family tonight? is this part of the final courtyard battle scene? Because if it is that title is misleading because this looks nothing like the courtyard.
    They may as well be flying around everywhere (Harry and Voldy) as the final confrontation will apparently take place in the Great Hall, the Courtyard and the building that we don't yet know the status of...

    Lord Stafford.

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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    anyways......i think this scene will either be really good or really cheesy its already leaning towards cheesy with that line only i can live forever
    There's a difference between cheesy and epic.

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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    im sorry but nothing about this scene seems epic yet but ill have to wait to see it in full context to know for sure
  • GinaCGinaC Posts: 828 ✭✭
    edited March 2011
    anyways......i think this scene will either be really good or really cheesy its already leaning towards cheesy with that line only i can live forever
    Absolutely so...

    Lord Stafford.

    Yep, the more I read about this scene the more depressed I get....

    X_X
  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anyways......i think this scene will either be really good or really cheesy its already leaning towards cheesy with that line only i can live forever
    There's a difference between cheesy and epic.

    Except the line isn't epic, so it must be cheesy to you as well, right?!

    Lord Stafford.

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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    No, it doesn't sound cheesy to me. Besides, we don't even know when he says that.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i need to see the scene in full to really pass judgement but so far im not impressed
  • SwedishSkinJerSwedishSkinJer Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
    It doesn't sound cheesy to me, either. Then again, I think the word "cheesy" is way too overused itself. I'm going to be the second contrarian who thinks that the line actually sounds chillingly epic because it's a perfect, succinct reminder of Voldemort's arrogance.

    Consider me impressed. The cinematography, the acting from Dan and Ralph...it's all shaping up to be a real memorable scene, IMO.
  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    doesnt sound cheesy at all, you people are negative
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i will withhold final judgement untill next summer
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