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Part II to be 2 hours 40 minutes?

KranenKranen Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2011 in General
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damn. That's long for less than 15 chapters.
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    Mysterious thing time.
  • AshAsh Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I doubt they've even finished editing the beast.
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  • jonny7003jonny7003 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭
    Isn't that the cinema company that gave out those tickets to allow people to see the film before anyone else ? I'm not entirely sure, but the name rings a bell.
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    id be super happy if that was true but nah i think perhaps 2.30 would be the most.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. Then the battle would be super long.
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    Mysterious thing time.
  • KranenKranen Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't that the cinema company that gave out those tickets to allow people to see the film before anyone else ? I'm not entirely sure, but the name rings a bell.
    Well, if you mean like 36 hours before everyone else, yes. Thats my local cinema company :)
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nahhh part will be on par with part 1 2 hours 10 minutes of FILM FOOTAGE and 17 minutes of stupid ass credits EPIC FAIL
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nahhh part will be on par with part 1 2 hours 10 minutes of FILM FOOTAGE and 17 minutes of stupid ass credits EPIC FAIL
    Why are you so sure this will happen? As for me, I will wait for OFFICIALY WB comfirmation from WB or the big 3. :P
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    I dont think it will be that long
    nahhh part will be on par with part 1 2 hours 10 minutes of FILM FOOTAGE and 17 minutes of stupid ass credits EPIC FAIL
    I dont think it will be that short lol

    right in the middle i´s say like 2 and 25 or so
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think 2 hours and 10 minutes is a decent run time its not too short but yea id like to have a bit longer
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    i think 2 hours and 10 minutes is a decent run time its not too short but yea id like to have a bit longer
    well at least 2 and 15 if you like it but I think we need elaboration in emotional plot moments
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well im not getting my hopes up so ill hope for 2 hours 10 of film footage surely they couldnt make it any shorter than that could they?
  • KranenKranen Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even though some think Part 2 should be really long (to foster the EPIC feeling) I think it should be a more intense tightly packed 2 hours or so. We don't want the battle to over-extend its welcome like say Transformers 2 does or even Helm's Deep in LotR: TT. More is not always better...quality guys, not quantity! ;-)
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  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even though some think Part 2 should be really long (to foster the EPIC feeling) I think it should be a more intense tightly packed 2 hours or so. We don't want the battle to over-extend its welcome like say Transformers 2 does or even Helm's Deep in LotR: TT. More is not always better...quality guys, not quantity! ;-)
    When it comes to the Battle of Hogwarts, more is better IMO. :P
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a good 30 minute battle would be sufficient
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    Even though some think Part 2 should be really long (to foster the EPIC feeling) I think it should be a more intense tightly packed 2 hours or so. We don't want the battle to over-extend its welcome like say Transformers 2 does or even Helm's Deep in LotR: TT. More is not always better...quality guys, not quantity! ;-)
    When it comes to the Battle of Hogwarts, more is better IMO. :P


    this!!! hahaha besides like I said I dont want elaboration in action scenes, but in emotional ones...thats the why...I want for example, the princes tale to shine, people talking about it, being long, not another SNAPES WORST MEMORIE in OOTP that no ones remembers anymore
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Shit, that new Transformers spot is awesome!
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    snape snape snape the whole series should have revolved around him screw harry potter.
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    snape snape snape the whole series should have revolved around him screw harry potter.
    lol it´s just he is important!!! ¬¬
    and i dont mean just him

    like someone said above, all the characters!
    As long as Tonks gets a scene or two, I am content.
    yeah exactly!

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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no i really think the films have done a rather subpar job of doin g his charecter justice. and im rerally surprised that alan rickman knowing how his charecter ended never spoke up and tryed to get them (the filmmakers ) to do his charecter better.
  • dobby_freak19dobby_freak19 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭
    no i really think the films have done a rather subpar job of doin g his charecter justice. and im rerally surprised that alan rickman knowing how his charecter ended never spoke up and tryed to get them (the filmmakers ) to do his charecter better.
    yeah and this is how they could mend it see?

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  • KranenKranen Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as Tonks gets a scene or two, I am content.
    I'll ask her :p
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO he dosent have the same nastiness in the films as he does in the books. and i think they could have done a better job with his story in HBP as well. so im worried about his ARC in dh2 (is arc the right word) im not sure? but given the films history with the charecter im not holding my breath.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Don't forget that Yates said that the editing of Part II would be finished sometime in early February. Heyman has seen the early cut of the film, as well. So the film's first cut may be 160 minutes long. But of course they may cut a bunch of 10-15 minutes until the film's release.

    I think that Part II will be longer than Part I. It has to deal with only 200-250 pages, but some scenes are way too important and need some decent screen time.

    Opening & Shell Cottage 18'
    Gringotts 30'
    Dragon Flight/By the Lake 35'
    Hogsmeade 43'
    Neville/Hogwarts/Diadem of Ravenclaw 52'
    Snape's Flight/Preparations/Evacuation 60'
    Chamber of Secrets/Gray Lady/Protections/Snatchers 68'
    Room of Requirement/The Battle of Hogwarts 75'
    Fred's Death/Battle of Hogwarts II 85'
    Snape's Death/Cease Fire/Carnage 94'
    The Prince's Tale 101'
    Walk of Death/Resurrection Stone 107'
    Forest Again/King Cross 114'
    Narcissa's Lie/Voldemort's Victory/Battle Resumes 121'
    Nagini's Death/Bellatrix's Death 126'
    Harry VS Voldemort 131'
    Aftermath 137'
    Epilogue 142'
    End Credits 153'

    I think that it will be quite close to 160 minutes.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Your rough cut ends at 153 minutes, which is equal to 2 hours 33 minutes. That is approximately the amount of time the Part 1 had before they cut out certain things after the test screening.

    If you add on another 17 minutes of credits, which is what Part 1 had, that would equal 170 minutes, which is equal to 2 hours 50 minutes. Ergo, to condense it properly they'll have to cut out roughly 15-25 minutes of footage.
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  • KranenKranen Posts: 4,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Part 1 had 17 minutes of credits?!?!
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  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well let's see.
    (This is how I think it should be)

    Opening(considering they have some sort of special opening like in DH1): 3 minutes
    Shell Cottage scenes: 10-13 minutes
    Gringotts scenes: 17-21 minutes
    Dragon: 1-2 minutes
    Final Hiding place/Voldemort Vision: 3-5 minutes
    Hogsmeade/Dumbledore's story: 6-8 minutes
    Neville/D.A. scene/Searching for info on the Diadem(Includes Ravenclaw Ghost): 10-13 minutes
    (Thats about 50 minutes for all of the post battle scenes)

    Sacking of Snape/Battle preparations(Putting up protections, Evacuating Students): 7-8 minutes
    Chamber of Secrets/Destruction of Cup Horcrux/Kiss: 5-6 minutes
    Start of Battle(With whatever added scenes, like Nagini chase, Protections going down, etc): 6-7 minutes
    Room of Requirement/Fiendfyre: 5-7 minutes
    1st part of the Battle(Fred's death, Fighting Death Eaters, Vision of Voldemort in Boathouse, etc): 11-17 minutes
    Snape's Death: 4-6 minutes
    Great Hall/Death mourning scenes: 5-6 minutes
    Snape's story: 7-9 minutes
    (Again about 1 hour for the middle section of the movie)

    Walking towards the forest: 3-4 minutes
    Forest Again scene: 2-3 minutes
    Voldemort confrontation/Harry's 'death': 2-3 minutes
    Limbo: 5-6 minutes
    Waking up/March towards Hogwarts/Speech: 5-8 minutes
    2nd part of the Battle(Nagini's death, Bellatrix's death, etc): 10-14 minutes
    Final battle: 5-7 minutes
    Post Battle: 5-6 minutes
    Epilogue: 4-6 minutes
    (Around 40 minutes)

    Give or take from certain things and that's how I think it will be. So 2 hours and 30-40 minutes does seems believable IMO.




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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Yes. Part 1's running time was 146 minutes, which is equal to 2 hours 26 minutes. The footage ends at approximately 2 hours 9 minutes and some amount of seconds (via my online copy.) Therefore, 17 minutes of credits.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    What? :O
    I thought that the end credits were a bit less than 10 minutes!

  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    That's what I thought all along, but it seems I was mistaken, at least for Part 1.
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    And actually, most films' credits are in the 7-10 minute range (a la Inception) but IDK if Potter just has so many people working on the film or what.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    My version is 134' without the end credits.


    Jason I agree. I think they'll take their time. Still, even if Part II is over 150 minutes long, it won't be a slow film so they won't cut quiet scenes, because there are hardly any. And these quiet scenes that are included are needed for important stuff.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    Actually I've got three versions:
    One is 129:18'
    The other is 131:30'
    And the other one is 134:20

    And it's the same film :P
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yep 17 to 20 minutes of credits so im thinking whatever we have OFFICIALLY for a run time cut off about 20 minutes of it and youll know how much film footage you actually have.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    My version is 134' without the end credits.


    Jason I agree. I think they'll take their time. Still, even if Part II is over 150 minutes long, it won't be a slow film so they won't cut quiet scenes, because there are hardly any. And these quiet scenes that are included are needed for important stuff.
    Right, I totally spaced out and didn't realize that that was the ending time and instead thought it was the starting. XD Fail on my part.

    Still, they're going to have to cut out quite a bit of footage.

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  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't doubt this film being the longest of the series, since the action will make the film feel fast paced, it wouldn't hurt it. Unlike CoS that was 161 minutes(174 with deleted scenes) and felt slow.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    ^Exactly. I think that Part II, even if it was 3 hours (which won't happen), wouldn't feel boring at all. It's even more exciting than Goblet of Fire, which remains the most entertaining HP film.
  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    ^Yup.

    So if DH2 really is about 160 minutes, together both parts are about 292 minutes. So around 5 hours of Deathly Hallows in the end. :-bd
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  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    I'd like that.
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When dealing with the running time, do they really take the credits into account? Like, the film is 160 minutes with credits, so that means we need to cut 20 minutes out to make it 140 minutes with credits.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    They always do take them into account. Part I is 146 minutes including end credits. So the film is 134-135 minutes long without them. Logically, Part II, if it really is 160 minutes, will be roughly 146-147 minutes long without the end credits. Which is really good IMO.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    Part 1 is 129 minutes without credits.
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  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    It depends on the time framing of the film copy. For instance, HBP is either 138 or 143 minutes without credits (something with the DVD) OotP is 123 or 128 minutes etc. Part I is either 129 or 134 minutes.
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    I don't think it makes much sense though. If you're worried about the running time, then focus on the actual running time of the footage. The credits are pretty much irrelevent since practically no one watches them.
  • blackvenomblackvenom Posts: 3,257
    True. And the running time works very differently, depending on the film. I've watched 80-minute films which were way too slow-paced (Coppola's Somewhere for instance) and 140-minute films which were quite fast-paced and I couldn't notice the length (Goblet of Fire).
    Anyway, the film will logically be between 130-150 minutes without end credits which is reasonable.
  • MadBellaMadBella Posts: 473
    with or without credits that just made me more happy. i know its gonna be the best now
    "Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure."
  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anything less than 2 hours and 10 minutes is UNACCEPTABLE
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    One on hand, I want part 2 over 2 1/2 hours, but on the other, I think LC has a point and it should be tight and right around 2 hours.
  • JasonJason Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2 hours is short, it won't do the story justice. At least 2 hours and 20 minutes.
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  • NickNick Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well 2 hours and 10 minutes did the first half great justice. so another 2 hour 10 minute second half should be sufficient
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