After watching HBP again

thisishogwarts

How can any HP fan think this is the worst film in the series? Beautifully directed, written, acted out, the score by Hooper is fantastic, the cinematography is to die for, and for me, a perfect way of setting up DH.

But I mean, really, fans think CoS is better?

Richard

HBP is beautiful extremely just abad adaptation compared to the others.

Nick

well if cos the movie was bad that means the book was bad as well.....the movie was copied verbatim from the book so there!!!

decarus

OotP is better and PoA. But i do agree that HBP has the best cinematography.

thisishogwarts

HBP is beautiful extremely just abad adaptation compared to the others.

Thats the thing I hate about HP fans: they think just because a film isn't faithful enough to the book, they just glance over it and beat it to sh*t.

What about the filmmaking process of the film? If so, I highly doubt anyone would have HBP out of the top 3 HP films to date.

But...*sigh* that won't happen.

Richard

I love the movie as a movie and hate it as an adaptation. This is because we werent used to them making drastic changes.

aaron

Hate is such a strong word. I don't know how you can look at OOTP's book-to-film adaptation and say that HBP is the worst.

Richard

I meant dislike but no one really uses "dislike" :P

Nick

the whole series is just subpar nothing great

Ash

I agree with everything Alex said. And personally I couldn't give two shits about how well adapted the books are. So Dumbledore's funeral isn't in the film, it's still in the book. I'd rather have a decent film (HBP), than a dull and lifeless verbatim of the book (CoS). I have no time for people who determine a movies quality by what was left out of the book.

Bane

thisishogwarts, the problem is that you're arguing with people who don't entirely look for the things that you or I look for in a film. It's highly unfortunate but it's like trying to explain to a 3 year old boy why The Empire Strikes Back is better than The Phantom Menace.

Bane

While I think that they skimmed over the interesting parts of the narrative in favor of the comedy and romance, filmmaking wise it makes a joke out of Chamber of Secrets-- no doubts there.

dobby_freak19

I love HBP, Amazing film...decent adaptation, altough lacks important details....poor conducting thread =S

[Deleted User]

I wish they would have had more on Snape and him being the half blood prince. and maybe a little more action.
I really like HBP though. COS is at the bottom of my list.

Nick

its funny evreyone hates chambers but,,,,,IT WAS JUST LIKE THE BOOK. does that mean you hate the book as well

Richard

we dislike the movie adaptation its too freaking long.

[Deleted User]

COS is my least favorite book. I thought it was boring. But I don't hate it. Just dislike a lot of it.

Pensieve Seeker

we dislike the movie adaptation its too freaking long.

This.

Now, as far as the HBP movie is concerned, I loved it.

halfbloodprincefilm

HBP was the best-shot Harry Potter film and even beats DH Part 1 in terms of Cinematography. I have to agree that a greatness of a film is not determine of what is left out, it's how it stands as a film. Look at LOTR, many are left out and major changes in terms of characters were made but still they were really great films. HBP was the best for me until DH Part 1 came along hahaha

decarus

I agree that CoS is the worst book also. The first three are sort of boring.

Nick

the books are all pretty awesome
the movies are subpar at best

Bane

I wouldn't call Prisoner of Azkaban, Order of the Phoenix, Half-Blood and Hallows Part 1 subpar films at all. In fact in terms of fantasy films and adaptations of books, they're pretty fucking stellar.

Nick

but there was too much cut out

Bane

Oh, you're one of those people.

Richard

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Nick

lmao!!! yes but overall if you were to watch the nmovies 1-6 they would make no sense because of what has been cut they are plotholes galore

TheDoctor

lmao!!! yes but overall if you were to watch the nmovies 1-6 they would make no sense because of what has been cut they are plotholes galore

Can you please name a plothole that exists within the films?

TheDoctor

CoS is my least favorite book as well. It's not that it's bad, (quite the contrary) I just don't think it is as good as the others.

Richard

lol cos is dans favorite

Bane

lmao!!! yes but overall if you were to watch the nmovies 1-6 they would make no sense because of what has been cut they are plotholes galore

Yeah, no. Kloves smartly chose one angle of the story to tell, Harry's POV since that's how it is in the books, and because of that-- we only know what Harry knows and find out things as Harry finds out things. And since it's one huge interconnected storyline, by the end of the last part of Hallows, everything that NEEDS to be explained will be.

I would like to know what you consider plot holes and things that are hard to understand, though. It's Harry Potter. The story is fantastic and deep, but it's never, ever been exactly hard to follow, or complicated.

Bane

Those aren't plot holes. Those are merely things that you think should have been elaborated upon more. There's a difference.

Nick

thank you jack!!!!

TheDoctor

thank you jack!!!!

darthorcrux is right. Those are not plotholes.

Festax0333

GREAT MOVIE
Stand Outs for me
TOM FELTON- he was great
the R.HR SCENES handled well
Jim Broadbent was a great choice for sluggy
Qudditch was more gritty and modern..i liked it
Cinematography was the BEST thing for me
The added wand raising scene, i dont care what anyone says this s cene was damn right sad....overall the strongest of yates films besides DH pt1.

8/10

Nick

well we will see how well the cup is executed in part 2.

[Deleted User]

well we will see how well the cup is executed in part 2.

I am concerned about the cup.

I wish they had included just a couple more memories in HBP concerning the horcruxes.

Bane

A plot hole is an element of the plot that does not make logical sense in relation to the rest of the plot. Hence the term, plot hole, or a hole in the logic of the storyline.

Those things you listed are elements of the story that weren't super duper elaborated upon as much as they were in the books. A sub-character that has absolutely no bearing on how the story plays out like Colin Creevey not showing up does not cause any part of the story to not make any sense, hence, that's not a plot hole.

The importance of the Horcruxes were explained in the film, quite specifically. The film told us that there are seven, that they are the keys to Voldemort's immortality, and that they were created in various acts of murder. The film tells us all of these things. And even if the "importance" of the Horcruxes weren't elaborated upon, it still would not be classified as a plot hole.

Nick

it will probably come out of nowhere like harry will say theres a hoprcrux cup in the lestranges vault!! ill be opissed but i can see them doing that

Bane

Nick, in all probability you'll be pissed no matter what.

Nick

lolol

Bane

Well, just saying, if you consider all the movies to be "subpar" then it's evident to me that you won't be satisfied with anything

Nick

yep i guess im just too damm picky

decarus

Well i think it is already logical at least as logical as it was in the book that they would go look in the vault. Bellatrix made it clear she was worried that they were in here vault. We don't know everything she said while she was torturing Hermione so that is possible.

I think now that Harry will be able to sense the horcrux now like he could the locket. So once they are in the vault he will be able to figure out what it is. Also the cup could be the only thing in the vault like the SS though i don't know about that.

Nick

thank you jack plot holes!!!

Nick

umm no in the book there were many treasures in the vault and when you touched them they multiplied

decarus

I do think it is a plot hole as to why Harry thought that it was his dad shooting the patronus. I never thought that made sense in the film.

Richard

those are small plotholes though.

decarus

Just because there were many treasures in the book does not mean that is how it will be in the film.

[Deleted User]

I think now that Harry will be able to sense the horcrux now like he could the locket. So once they are in the vault he will be able to figure out what it is. Also the cup could be the only thing in the vault like the SS though i don't know about that.

I guess that possible about Harry sensing other Horcruxes. But I'll be disappointed if the cup is the only thing in the vault lol
I really liked the multiplying cups and how they get burned in the vault. I hope they don't cut that out.

Bane

Then what do you call Harry calling Peter Pettigrew "Wormtail" out of the middle of nowhere in PoA. That was not explained at all. Why does Harry's Patronus turn into a stang in PoA when it was just a barrier like thing before? Why did he make the connection between the patronus and his dad? Oh yeah, none of those things were explained, leaving non book readers confused.

Those are things that the general public don't exactly give a fuck about. BOOK purists, yes, are going to make these tiny elaborations because they have a lot more background and a bigger foothole on the story, but a general viewer is not going to sit around and dwell on something like that because they know that they're watching a fantasy film.

My description of what a plot hole still stands. If you can find something about the story that does not logically rhyme with another part of the story, we'll talk.

Nick

they probably will they love to cut corners!!! lazy bastards