David Yates, the unsung director.

jonny7003

Click here for the article which says that David Yates is an unsung, great director.

That's an interesting read. I personally agree with the article and the comments are good too.

Richard

wow....hes a good not a great director,jonny. alfonso cuaron was a great director and i think we can agree hed done a superb job throughout the series......
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jonny7003

It says 'great' in the article title, that's why I wrote it down. Of course he's not as experienced as Cuaron, but he's a thumping good director for the Potter series and it's nice to know that people do like him out there.

Richard

OK.....THEN JONNY I DONT WANT U TO HATE HIM......I DONT WANT ANYONE TO,I APOLIGIZE,BUT U MUST UNDERSTAND Y ILL BE PISSED IF HE CHANGES SNAPES DEATH....HE PROBLY WONT.
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jonny7003

I'll be upset if Snape's death is changed too, but we can't blame it all on the director. Anyway, if it is changed then it must be for a good reason I suppose

Slantee

I am and always be a Yates support. If your read the comments, there's a person who points out that every movie of Yates has a different theme quite like the books. The 5th movie was a movie which brought out the politics in the world of HP, the 6th movie brought out the emerging darkness in the wizarding world, DH 1 will be a road movie while DH 2 will be a war movie. The rest of the movies INCLUDING Prisoner of Azkaban had very mixed themes. POA was a very good movie, one of the best in the series but Yates' contribution series MUST NOT be ignored. You CANNOT compare the movies to books and a movie and book CANNOT be same word to word. If you look at each movie differently, you'll realize how good they are. And the changes bring a fresh feel to the movie which makes it interesting for the readers AND the non readers. Yates is the best thing that ever happened to the series. And he IS a great director.

And he IS very experienced in his own way, he started shooting his own documentaries when he was 14.

jonny7003

I fully agree with you slantee.

Richard

Slantee i dont want u to feel that i hate yates i know sometimes i get upset but to me hes just an ok director(u woulda done an amazing job my freind^^)until i see DH,i will make judgment;)
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Yates don't wrote the script so please stop saying if he change Snape death like if it will it will be KLOVES fault

When Harry Potter will realize that the director don't WROTE the change (who are APPROVE BY JK ROWLING) he just film its !

I'm really really pissed after 8 movies that the confusion is still here

Colombus, Cuaron, Newell or Yates don't make any change if was Kloves, Goldberg job

Slantee

Haha no I dont have experience at all, I would've ruined the series.I mean I do have a great vision for the series but having a vision is another thing and actually being able to execute is another. That's what I wanted you to understand. Yes we all visualized how the scenes would be while reading the book. But it takes TREMENDOUS effort to turn that visualization into reality. The world of HP is so vast and detailed, the stories are so complex and confusing, and the themes are so varied that ACTUALLY turning it into a movie, a nice movie, is like impossible. You might say that anyone would've been better than Yates, but you really dont know what you're talking about. He and the team probably work night and day to make a movie which appeals to the readers and the non-readers.

Why I like Yates so much? Because he has a vision for the series. The series, mind you, not ONE movie. I bet he wanted to direct the 6th and the 7th movie as soon as he took on the director's seat for the 5th movie. He had this vision for this series, being an HP fan himself, and he's succeeded tremendously in turning that vision into a world class cinematic experience. And believe me richard, its NOT easy.

As for DH, I know that this movie is going to create history. And I bet my ass you'll come out crying when you're done with part 2. That's a director's promise.

Richard

Hahaa u made me smile slantee:) I know wat u mean but i wish u were there giving yates and everyone advice about DH lol! Vanessa im sorry for saying yates,ill just say wb lol! Now i have to go ill talk to u guys later^^
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MicroFX

Plus the Producers have a bigger say over the Directors, and then the WB execs have a bigger say over them, so its a chain really, theres not one person to be blame, filmmaking is a TEAM working process. And to people who kick up a fuss over changes, do you not think that they consider doing the original scenes as they are in the books? Ofcourse they do, but sometimes it just doesn't work on screen, and so its an incredible feat to try and work in these plotpoints to tell a CINEMATIC STORY.

jonny7003

Hey Slantee, when you become one of the greatest directors ever will you hire me to work in the art department ?

This reminds me - i'll be starting the film course in September. Graphic Design, here I come lol !

Slantee

@ MicroFX - I completely agree.

@ Jonny- Hahahaha dude. You'll have to wait for a while cause I'm still 17. So turning into a successful director might take a while :D

seamus

I absolutely agree with slantee- Yates in not the ordinary director..he´s an extraordinary director with the great visions for his own movies...Like slantee wrote, "Yates is the best thing that ever happened to the series."

jonny7003

Has anyone seen David Yates' IMDB board ? It's full of hate on there and it makes me really sad. Take a look -

David Yates: IMDB

Slantee

@ Seamus - Thanks for agreeing :)

@ Jonny - Yeah man, it is quite sad.

dashape80

[quote=MicroFX]Plus the Producers have a bigger say over the Directors, and then the WB execs have a bigger say over them, so its a chain really, theres not one person to be blame, filmmaking is a TEAM working process. And to people who kick up a fuss over changes, do you not think that they consider doing the original scenes as they are in the books? Ofcourse they do, but sometimes it just doesn't work on screen, and so its an incredible feat to try and work in these plotpoints to tell a CINEMATIC STORY. [/quote]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Those who blame a director for everything wrong in a film are just ignorant of the movie making business.

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does NO ONE CARE that the maruders story was cut

jonny7003

I don't - it's implied who they are throughout the succeeding films anyway, so I would think the audience has caught on by now. I mean, we have numerous references to them anyway, such as ''My wand, Wormtail'' in GOF, ''Padfoot, are you barking mad?" and James shouting ''Come on Moony, Padfoot!'' in Snape's Worst Memory in OOTP.

dashape80

[quote=dream_loudly]does NO ONE CARE that the maruders story was cut [/quote]

Yeah, that sucked. I still like the movie overall and can live with it but that was a bummer. Oh well.

jonny7003

On the subject of Marauders, does anyone like Sirius Black's line of ''Nice one, James'' to Harry in OOTP ? I personally thought it was a great reference to the past.

dashape80

[quote=jonny7003]On the subject of Marauders, does anyone like Sirius Black's line of ''Nice one, James'' to Harry in OOTP ? I personally thought it was a great reference to the past. [/quote]

I thought that was one of the more brilliant things in the entire movie . . .it speaks volumes

jonny7003

Yep it did. Well done to Goldenberg for including that.

dashape80

I like how Harry doesn't even respond to it . . . like it goes unnoticed because too much action is happening for Harry to even notice . . . it seems Harry is just happy that Sirius compliments him (like an equal)

isabelladanrad

but guys...changing snapes death (or anything he changes in the movies from the books) has nothing to do with his talent as a director. To be honest I think hs brillaint too. His direction on Sex traffic and state of play was brilliant. He has yet to deliver a really awful film. By the way Im not critising any of your opinions, Your entitled to them all.
Oh, any UK residents can check out Sex traffic on 4od. It's brilliant, but make sure you're over 15.

tarantello

Yates is a great director? hmmm... how much did he pay for this article?
as for me, he is nothing....
The great directors are F. Coppola, G. del Toro, A. Cuaron, Q. Tarantino, S. Kubrik and others... and equating of yates with these directors is just madness...

aaron

I love that someone made this thread. Nice to see that we still have some Yates supporters out there.

Nick

yates the unsung director....ill give him that so far ive liked what he has done with the HP series and although i know book to screen adaptations cannot be exact i seriously hope he ends the series in an epic way. all indications are he will

aaron

^Hear, hear.

Richard

IM HOPING HE WILL............THE ONLY BAD BAD THING HE(THEY) CAN DO IS CHANGE SNAPES DEATH IF HE DOESNT,THEN I WILL LIKE THE WORK EVERYONE DID ON THE FILM^^
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Nick

if they have the ressurection stone outside the snitch ill be pissed!!! it ruins the plot (more than snapes death)

Richard

NO.....SNAPES DEATH IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A LITTLE STONE......ANYONE ELSE AGREE???
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Nick

your forgetting the stone is a deathly hallow!!!!

Richard

I KNOW,BUT IDC IF THE STONE IS IN THE SNITCH......
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Nick

well its a critical plot point

Richard

I KNOW BUT ID RATHER SEE SNAPE DIE BY NAGINI......
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Nick

one has nothing to do with the other i still think snape will die by nagini there,s no way around that

Richard

OK........IT RELIEVES ME TO THINK THAT SNAPE WILL DIE THAT WAY AND THAT WE ALL AGREE HIM DYING ANOTHER WAY IS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN.
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Nick

yes i agree about snape....you know if there simply going to not have the resurection stone be in the snitch then they should just cut that part out completely

Richard

no,they shouldnt,its a deathly hallow,but im positive it WILL be in the snitch,man,im quite sure.
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Nick

im praying really hard that it will be....God i hate people who screw with the fandom when will it ever stop

Richard

no it HAS to be there,trust me unless they skip DD will....
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Nick

no DD will is in bill Nighy mentioned filming the scene where he delivers DD,S will to the trio

Richard

ok then there u go,the snitch will be handed and the stone has to be there,y would they give the snitch for fun>????
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Mamoun

I completely agree with the topic and the article, personally I have plenty of reasons to love Yates Direction:

1. As mentioned before, he is able to sum up the theme of each film he makes in 2-3 words, which shows how he has a great vision for each film that fits the main themes of each book.
   
2. He thinks of the series as a whole using flashbacks of the previous films if necessary, which ties the series together. He also benefits from the work done by other directors of the series and doesn't ignore their efforts and styles. as a simple example he uses Cauron's "camera passes through glass" in OotP & HBP.
   
3. Got perfect acting performances from the actors, way better than other director in the series, nobody can disagree on that, Dumbledore is no longer a crazy angry old man, ron is not the always scared silly sidekick...etc
   
4. Some scenes in the films he directed are way better than their book-counterparts, for example: slughorn's memory retrieval, felix felicis scene, possession scene, Grawp introduction..etc
   
5. He uses special effects in a non show-off manner, the kind of in your face effects that filled the first two films and cheapens the film, now look at the beautiful subtle memories effects in HBP, it's here to enhance what's an already great scene.
   
6. Most of the decisions he makes in directing make sense If you step back and think about it for a while, he certainly doesn't ask Steve Kloves to omit anything just to upset us.
   
7. He puts little nods to the fans in every film that only they can understand, in OotP there is Arberforth's goat, Percy helping the minister and in HBP there is the sorting hat song, the snowing celling of the main hall..etc

I might not like some of the things he does but really the positives are a lot more than the negatives, he is an incredibly underrated director.

Richard

Well im thankful someones directing this film.....heres how id rate them:Alfonso cuaron,mike newell,david yates,chris columbus.......
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Richard

For the potter worl ofcourse^^
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Mamoun

The fact that you choose Alfonso Cuaron as your favorite makes me truly respect your opinion, Cuaron is a truly phenomenal director and without his work on literally "rebooting" the harry potter series with PoA we would be stuck like the Narnia films and their fans.

Richard

Thanks,soooo much Macedonian,i think we can ALL agree that alfonso has been the best director........alfonso changed potter in a great way,i wish he wouldve done the whole series......and JKR has said he was her first chice as director^^ Thanks mamoun,i really appreciate it:)
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jonny7003

Here's my rank of the directors for Potter:

Cuaron
Yates
Newell
Columbus

We've been lucky we've had such great and enthusiastic directors, haven't we?