The Fake/Real Locket Horcrux.

Lord Stafford

Why the FCUK! are they using the Fake Locket from HBP as the Real Horcrux in the Deathly Hallows? do they not care or something? do they think I/We won't notice? are they too dumb to remember that thats the fake one? or can't they be bothered to make or use the real one? YATES!!!!!!!!!

REAL!
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:LocketDH.PNG

FAKE! from HBP
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:Fake_Horcrux_Locket.jpg
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:Locket_from_the_cave_.jpg

FAKE! from DH
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:Harry_with_the_locket.jpg
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ron_gives_locket_to_Harry.jpg

Are they really that Dumb?!

Lord Stafford.

decarus

I think they are using the same locket, but they are still going to go the the ministry and find the real one. They just made the real locket look exactly the same as the fake locket.

Richard

Hahahaha! Yeah,guess they cant tell the difference lol! So its gonna be identical rite? Then thats just plain stupidity.....

decarus

I think so, it looks the same to me. If there is a difference it will be very small.

Lord Stafford

I'm starting to completely lose faith in Yates again, what a twat he is... just when i was beginning to go and say it looks like he has made up for the crap that was OOTP and HBP he goes and does this with the locket/horcrux and the added battle... what a DUMBASS!, any of us could of done better than he has done!

Lord Stafford.

Richard

Completely agree with you Lord Stafford.....

TomRiddle

What a TWAT he is?
Get a life you losers. Lets see you, or anybody else for that matter, do a better job than Yates.

So what if the real locket looks the same as the fake one? It was a swapped duplicate, it doesnt HAVE to be different. Grr you all go on about inconsequential shit that doesnt make the difference. Do you not have lives to be getting on with instead of stressing over the most pathetic smallest aspect of the film that doesn't even make the slightest bit of difference?

The film will be EPIC. And I hope you HATE it.

Richard

Look Riddle( lol,Riddle) i can probably have done a better Job than yates. Anyone on here couldve including u. I dont think hes a big fan of HP,he just wants the money so he dont give a shit bout us,dont u see?!? He changes too many things! And y call us losers loser? We cant comment bad things bout yates or wat? Ar

jonny7003

Ok, lets all just calm down shall we ? Everyone has a right to have an opinion, even if some don't agree with it. I like Yates and the effort he puts into it is evident. That's my opinion. Feel free to disagree, but lets not start a petty argument - it only causes ill feelings on both sides.

Richard

Rite jonny,im calm now. But hows it evident that he puts alotta work in the series?!? Have u seen his interviews,he stutters,as if he had no idea wat HP is......

jonny7003

He stutters ? I'm sure everyone stutters once in a while. He comes across as a genuine, friendly guy when I have seen him in interviews and two of ITV's Behind the Magic specials. It's probably just nerves effecting him in some way. I can't really pass judgement on his filmmaking because he stutters in interviews.

It's evident because I can see that he does enjoy making these movies from the behind the scenes stuff. I'm sure he has a great respect for the novels - he did, after all, create a 3 hour OOTP movie including many details from the book apparently.

Anyway, the film is constructed from a team effort. Yes the director is the leading man, but everyone has their input. If he really didn't care for the series I'm sure his films would be extremely bad and a lot worse.

dashape80

Good Call jonny - It's just a movie guys and EVERYBODY is entitled to their opinion however I find it funny how people are judging this movie months before it's even released LOL. That's just premature and silly to me.

If you hate Yates or love him, either way that's fine by me but saying that anybody on here could make a better film? Really? I mean really? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that NOBODY on this forum (including myself) could make half the movie that Yates could or any other professional director is capable of for that matter. Just because you don't like a director's final product (which it's totally cool to not like it) doesn't mean you could do a better job as the director . . . that's just angry fan boy talk.

@nico

In fact, both appear to be identical... in the book, they are identical so... ;)

Sorry but I don't understand "the connection" between Yates and the locket XD

[Deleted User]

[quote=Lord Stafford]he goes and does this with the locket/horcrux and the added battle... [/quote]
Added battle?!

I like Yates and liked how OOTP and HBP turned out, for the most part. The biggest thing that bothered me, was the lack of Horcrux talk in HBP and am very concerned/curious about how they will handle Horcruxes in DH.

Richard

Well,to direct probably not,wat i really mean is that im pissed at wat he leaves out,puts in, etc. Wat im saying is i dont see alotta heart in him. Yeah he Seems friendly,but in the special features he isnt in there that much,chris Columbus had alotta heart(i could tell from the ultimate editions),and i coulda made HBP better(IDC wat anyone says its my opini

decarus

In the books the lockets are in fact different. This is a change. I agree that it isn't that important. I sort of wonder if they are going to have the locket have a Slytherin connection though which is something i liked. I liked that the horcruxes had connections to the founders. That was interesting. Does that mean the film will be crap if the locket doesn't have a Slytherin connection? No, of course not, but it is a difference.

[Deleted User]

Do you think they'll still keep the connection of the Hogwarts founders to the Horcruxes? We'll we find out that the cup is Hufflepuffs and the diadem Ravenclaw's? Or do you think they'll cut those details out?

jonny7003

Someone said that they heard the word ''Ravenclaw'' being repeated over and over again on the stuck record in the Room of Hidden Things in the Half-Blood Prince film. If that's the case, then it's excellent foreshadowing of DH and may also be a hint that the filmmakers are keeping the founder's connections with the Horcruxes in DH.

[Deleted User]

[quote=jonny7003]Someone said that they heard the word ''Ravenclaw'' being repeated over and over again on the stuck record in the Room of Hidden Things in the Half-Blood Prince film. If that's the case, then it's excellent foreshadowing of DH and may also be a hint that the filmmakers are keeping the founder's connections with the Horcruxes in DH. [/quote]
What?! *lol* Really. Now I'm gonna have to watch that scene and see if it's there. I hope you're right and that they are leaving them in.

UniversHarryPotter.c

Why did you call the real locket the one use for the adult cover of the english book ? Oo

JK Rowling never say that the locket use for the book cover is the real and only one Slytherin Locket or i missed the interview where she said that

Richard

I know it's no big deal that the lockets are the same,but would it kill him to stay truer to the book?!? Anyways, I'm hoping we hear alot about the houses as well,haven't heard gruffindor in a wile.....

decarus

I don't think we know if the horcruxes will still be connected to the founders. I think they should be in some way, but we really don't know. There isn't really a good enough photo of the locket to tell if it has a Slytherin mark on it. We will see.

[Deleted User]

Oh my heck, it really does sound like the stuck player is saying 'Ravenclaw'.
If the lockets are the same, I do kind of hope that there is a Slytherin mark on the real locket. It would just be nice to see it.

Richard

They have to be connected on the film,otherwise HP is just looking for random items. Yeah,pretty lame if u ask me......

GodricGryffindor

Oh my Lord!!!

Are you guys actually blaming David Yates for the difference between the difference in the lockets??!!!!

There is a small thing called THE ART DEPARTMENT/PRODUCTION DESIGN that takes care of these things!!! Believe me, David Yates doesn't give a FUCK about the appearance of the Locket.
You all haters... ummm Lord Stafford, richard....should get your facts straight.

If you want to blame someone for the difference in the lockets (WHAT A PATHETIC COMPLAIN)...blame STUART CRAIG....who takes care of the Art Direction in ALL HP films.


OOhh, and richard, you say Yates leaves too many things out. For your information there is a person who takes care of writing the script, and it is called A WRITER...his name is STEVE KLOVES.

For the love of GOOOOOD~!!!!! David Yates only takes care of the way the movie is filmed!!!!

Some of us are surrounded by stupidity, guess you can agree on that deshape ;)

aaron

Godric Gryffindor is completely right! Don't blame Yates for a mistake about a LOCKET! Besides, I think the locket looks okay. Sure, it doesn't have the S on it, but who cares?!?!? Its the art department that designs it. So don't blame Yates.

dashape80

[quote=GodricGryffindor]
Some of us are surrounded by stupidity, guess you can agree on that deshape [/quote]

Coming from the person who jumped on me for saying someone elses statement was a bit hypocritical? LOL

GodricGryffindor

Oh, I see you do keep track of what everybody says, and I said it in a non-rude way.

dashape80

and I said hypocritical in a non-rude way . . . what's your point? Why would I not keep track of what everybody says? It's a two way street my friend. You're trying to justify your comments while calling out others . . . just saying. Also, I don't agree that some of us are surrounded by stupidity like you said above. Actually I don't think people are stupid for having an opinion . . . I just don't agree with their opinions. I give my reasons and they give their reasons and if they they say something that contradicts their argument I'll point it out (and I try to do it politely). . . just like I'd hope they'd do to me.

(sorry for the detour everybody - continue on with the topic discussion)

Richard

Well nows my turn to take Godric Gryffindors side: you know I'm a fan of u dashape,but I hope u understand me wen I say yates does poorly in the HP films,still good cause it's HP,but he ain't a good director IMO! Godric Gryffindor understands me and I thank him/her for that.....

PS check the order of the movies page for my explanation (gr8 title jonny!)

UniversHarryPotter.c

But there aren't an real Slytherin Locket ! the picture give by Lord is JUST an locket choose to be the COVER of English adult edition of Deathly Hallows !
Like the book use for HBP english adult edition wasn't the REAL HBP book

And isn't because is in Wiki that it's true

take an look on the english adult cover there are JUST Cover

decarus

I agree that the locket on the cover is not the real locket, so they can make the locket look however they want. There is a real horcrux locket though and a fake horcrux locket in the book. In the book they look different. The real locket was bigger and had a Slytherin mark on it. The fake locket was more nondescript. I don't care that the lockets are the same. That is fine. After all Hermione made an exactly replica of the locket and left it with Umbridge when they attacked her at the ministry. They could just leave the fake locket this time.

I just dislike the idea that the horcruxes aren't objects that are connected to the Hogwarts founders. I thought that was something interesting in the book. We don't even know if it isn't connected to Slytherin or not. It may still be. I am not going to hate the film if it isn't. It is just one of those things.

@nico

@decarus : if you have a replica of the locket, you can read on one side 'Salazard Slytherin' several times... To conclude, this is a reference to the founder :)

To the other : Remember that the film is not a copy paste from the book!

Richard

Alrite,they can't change the locket anymore,which ever one they used they used,let's just accept it like everything else......

dashape80

No worries richard :-)
We just dont' see eye to eye about Yates' directing. Probably because of the age gap between us. I don't really understand why you think Yates is a poor director and I've yet to read a good explanation for it. You mostly just address the fact that he doesn't stick to the books. By those standards you should think Newell and Cuar

@nico

@dashape80 : I agree with you ! You're right (about filmmakers) :)

Richard

Yeah,dashape it's mostly cause they aren't entertaining. I try to really like them better than the other ones cause alotta u guys defend him,but I don't see it,I really don't. Wateva,we all have different opininions I think I start alotta arguments cause I talk bad bout him,I'll try not to unless I see something bad he's done with DH(so far not as much) so yeah,the locket thing is no biggy to me,it's just an item,but I do think they should put the founders connections with the locket. I thought it was cool in the books.......And it makes sense,so I wonder how they'll do it in the films.

decarus

That is what i have been asking. Is there a Slytherin mark on the fake locket replicas? Everyone kept saying no. I do agree that it is not necessary for the horcruxes top be connected to the founders, i just liked that about the book. It added depth like dashape said.

Saying that the films aren't like the book is sort of unnecessary. I never said that they were, as a matter of fact, i said they weren't.

Richard

So if they don't have the founders connection with the horcruxes,how is HP gonna know wat the horcruxes are?!?

jonny7003

I think that he'll touch one of the Horcruxes and it'll give him visions of the others. Just like what happened in HBP film, when he touched the ring he saw Nagini and Voldemort. The piece of soul inside the Horcrux would 'connect' with the soul inside Harry, thus giving him visions of the other fragments of souls in the other Horcruxes.

decarus

Well i don't really think we know how he is going to know what they are since the memories were left out. I am assuming he will just figure out about the cup because Bellatrix will say it when she is torturing Hermione. I also think that he may just see the diadem in his mind when he sees into Voldemort's mind. He has already seen the snake when he touched the ring in HBP. We will see.

Richard

Oh that's gonna SUCK!!!!! Like I said Ima not try to talk "Ill" of yates,but how can I not wen he's doing this to the book? Well I'll still probably like it cause it'll be entertaining.....

jonny7003

I still stick with my idea.

decarus

We don't really know. If the locket says Slytherin then the connection to the founders may be there.

Richard

Wat if the locket has an S and they never explain wat it means? I hate that u know,like yates has done this alot,put things in without explaining them(not saying it for me but for nonpotter book readers) and I've always gotta explain y things are there and shit,come on guys! Doesn't this piss u off?!?

jonny7003

No. People should read the books if they like the world of Harry Potter. Rowling's worked extremely hard on this and some people just watch the movies, when they should also be reading the books if they want to know more about the details. The films are just there to provide us with the world of Harry Potter in a cinematic form. They shouldn't have to explain every single thing to people. The books do that.

Besides, the locket can always be mentioned by one of the trio as ''Salazar Slytherin's Locket'', therefore making it obvious what the S is there for.

Richard

Easy for u to say,jonny my parents work,have no time, and they have trouble reading English. They don't like the films at all, cause they get confused with alotta things. They'll watch POA and GOF but wen I put OOTP and HBP,they want me to take it off. If they were more understandable and better made,this wouldn't be happening. My brothers just lazy to read so it doesn't interest him. I'm in a different situation cause I bet all your family likes HP,but I practically have no one to talk about it xcept here......

dashape80

no worries richard, no one in my house is a big Potter fan either. My brother has read the books and seen the movies but doesn't really talk about them much.

jonny7003

I apologise Richard if I offended you in any way. My parents don't like Potter at all - they haven't got a friggin clue. I tried to persuade my mum to read the books but she's not interested. My father on the other hand....he's just stupid and can only just about read the local newspaper (he didn't get any education - long story).

But I still think the films shouldn't dwell on minor and endless details, but just get the main plot and story across and all have the films have done that well imo.

Lord Stafford

Yeah i just have a Dumbass sister! who seems to think that crappy films like Step Up are better than Harry Potter simply because she thinks so, without giving an opinion and she also used to read the HP books and like them but since then because HP is so deep and good to read she has said its shit just because i like it.

My Dad just says fake with everything to do with the films and the books even though he hasn't even read any of them and clearly doesn't understand and/or like imagination in epic storys!
And my Mum hasn't read the latter books but has with the early ones and has watched all the movies and prefers the earlier ones (1-4) because there closer to the book and generally better, and also i say to her that its no wonder she doesn't completely understand the 5th and 6th... not because of her not reading the respective books but because i say to her that they are not really very close to the books, plus lets be honest there slightly boring compared to the earlier ones and to deny this is bordering on the line between ignorance and stupidity although i know that there well above average films i do however refuse to accept that 5 and 6 are very good Harry Potter films as the movies are not anyway near enough to really be in reality considered great Book to Screen adaptations because once again i'll say that there far too far from the overall plot, prefering to waver off into mindless romance and comedy... that is dull as a Harry Potter adaption, though quiet funny.

Lord Stafford.

Richard

Yeah,I wish I had a brother or someone I could talk about HP. I have friends that like it,but I'm a huge fan,so I talk about it all day! Lol! In short I wish they were big a fans as iam....