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Daniel Radcliffe says Deathly Hallows Part 2 was Snubbed

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edited February 2012 in General
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/oscars/daniel-radcliffe-harry-potter-deserved-more-oscar-nominations-191904872.html


Despite being the highest-grossing film franchise of all-time, Harry Potter has never received much love from the academy.
The eighth and final film in the series, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2, scored only three nominations in the technical categories at the 84th Annual Academy Awards -- something Daniel Radcliffe isn't too happy about.

"I don't think the Oscars like commercial films, or kids' films, unless they're directed by Martin Scorsese," Radcliffe, 22, tells Radio Times (as excerpted by The Guardian). "I was watching Hugo the other day and going, 'Why is this nominated and we're not?' I was slightly miffed."

Says Radcliffe: "There's a certain amount of snobbery. It's kind of disheartening. I never thought I'd care. But it would've been nice to have some recognition, just for the hours put in."

Six of the eight Harry Potter films have been nominated for Academy Awards, though only in the Best Art Direction, Best Costume Design, Best Original Score, Best Visual Effects, Best Makeup and Best Cinematography categories. None of the movies have ever won.




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"I don't think the Oscars like commercial films, or kids' films, unless they're directed by Martin Scorsese,"

There you go Dan! ONE MORE TIME!!!

"I don't think the Oscars like commercial films, or kids' films, unless they're directed by Martin Scorsese,"

PLEASE, SAY IT AGAIN!!!!!

"I don't think the Oscars like commercial films, or kids' films, unless they're directed by Martin Scorsese,"

JUST ONE MORE DAN PLEASEEE!!!!!!


"I don't think the Oscars like commercial films, or kids' films, unless they're directed by Martin Scorsese,"

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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trolololol
    I burst out laughing when I read that the first time :p
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Bahhhhhahaha I love you Dan.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I was watching Hugo the other day and going, 'Why is this nominated and we're not?'

    I've asked myself the same thing numerous times Dan. It's okay, you're not alone. In fact anyone who thinks otherwise is probably alone :p
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Old ppl like hugo more.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old ppl like hugo more.
    "I've asked myself the same thing numerous times Dan. It's okay, you're not alone. In fact anyone who thinks otherwise is probably alone"

    oh lookee hurrr i be rightt! trolololol
  • RichardRichard Posts: 48,703 mod
    Haha old ppl and brian.
  • IsaiahIsaiah Posts: 3,342 mod
    Its complete BS, Hugo shouldnt even been nominated, if it wasnt for Martin we would have that spot.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its complete BS, Hugo shouldnt even been nominated, if it wasnt for Martin we would have that spot.
    For a second I was like WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO then I remembered the director's name is Martin.

    Le whoops :p
  • SwedishSkinJerSwedishSkinJer Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2012
    I doubt the spot would have gone to Part 2, and there's no evidence that it would have in any case. Blaming Hugo is getting kind of ridiculous (the question of whether or not it would have been different without Scorsese is irrelevant; it's a great film because it's an ideal match of director and material), as much as I would have liked to see Part 2 receive more attention for its non-technical triumps. In that sense I agree it was snubbed.
  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2012
    No one is blaming Hugo for DH not getting in, that is not what anyone is saying at all. The point is that you have these 2 fantasyish films with the same labels. Both recieved critical acclaim, yet one was nominated and Other wasn't. So, why? Naturally, many are going to point to the directors.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I doubt the spot would have gone to Part 2, and there's no evidence that it would have in any case. Blaming Hugo is getting kind of ridiculous (the question of whether or not it would have been different without Scorsese is irrelevant; it's a great film because it's an ideal match of director and material), as much as I would have liked to see Part 2 receive more attention for its non-technical triumps. In that sense I agree it was snubbed.
    They're both in the family genre, I suppose fantasy like feel for both.

    People saying that Hugo is one of the best family movies ever is plain pathetic to me. No kid I know liked that movie, only old people liked it. That wasn't a family movie, it was boring as hell. It wasn't an adventure, the adventure was an "epic" staircase climb. It wasn't emotional, we got no time with the father, no time seeing Hugo with his miserable life under his uncle, and only got him as an annoying brat saying "give it, its mine, i want it" every 10 seconds.

    Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. That's a family film. Not this.

    I'm sorry, I just feel strongly about this.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went to a packed theater of where I saw maybe 5 people younger than me.

    MAYBE.

    Seeing Deathly Hallows Part 2 (not midnight because no kids would be there) I saw people of all ages.

    You tell me which one is the family film.
  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2012
    Remember that Hugo is based in a book. Normally, most of adaptations have a lot of details which if you didn't read the book, they would be useless. I agree with Dan that there's a favoritism with Hugo instead of DH2. But, it's not actually Academy's fault? They always choose to nominate and award a lot of movies instead of the Harry Potter ones. Recent examples, 2009, Avatar. 2010, Alice In Wonderland and Inception.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have a generation defining, fantasy epic battle, the final showdown between good and evil on the grand courtyard that is hogwarts with the biggest release of all time and the most critically acclaimed film of the year.

    Then you have derpy boy climbs stairs and hangs from clock tower

    -.-
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, maybe the book is wonderful! I don't doubt it, it could splendid!

    That's no excuse for the film lacking though. People who say, and I don't mean you I mean people in general, "go read the books if you want to know" usually don't have any more points to back themselves with.
  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot of people says the same thing about DH2, though.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot of people says the same thing about DH2, though.
    And they are wrong to say it.
  • aaronaaron Posts: 20,950 mod
    He's very correct.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's very correct.
    He's extremely correct and incredibly true.
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  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whether or not you agree with him, you have to respect the fact that he spoke up.
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • Festax0333Festax0333 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's very correct.
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I don't think the Oscars like commercial films, or kids' films, unless they're directed by Martin Scorsese," Radcliffe, 22, tells Radio Times (as excerpted by The Guardian). "I was watching Hugo the other day and going, 'Why is this nominated and we're not?' I was slightly miffed."

  • HessHess Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The shit is done, time to get over it. We already know the Academy sucks big elephant cock.
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's face it guys, HPDH2 was probably not nominated because young Lily clearly did not have the same eyes as Daniel Radcliffe.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't think the Oscars like commercial films, or kids' films, unless they're directed by Martin Scorsese,"
    Preach it, Dan!
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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The great thing about Daniel is that he actually cares. He's outspoken about stuff like this. He's really proud of the movies and sees that Part 2 is a masterpiece, so I can definitely understand his grief. I know he cares, too-- it's evident from when Rowling said "Hogwarts will always be there to welcome you home" and he was trying to cover up the fact that it fucking blindsided him emotionally. That must have meant something to him; if he didn't truly care about the story or the characters and was just there for the money/fame, he would have just smiled and clapped like everyone else.

    So when he says these things, I don't see it as someone who is a sore loser or that just wants to spout some nonsense or be a drama queen. I completely believe his sincerity. However, he can rest at night knowing that he's not alone.
  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The great thing about Daniel is that he actually cares. He's outspoken about stuff like this. He's really proud of the movies and sees that Part 2 is a masterpiece, so I can definitely understand his grief. I know he cares, too-- it's evident from when Rowling said "Hogwarts will always be there to welcome you home" and he was trying to cover up the fact that it fucking blindsided him emotionally. That must have meant something to him; if he didn't truly care about the story or the characters and was just there for the money/fame, he would have just smiled and clapped like everyone else.

    So when he says these things, I don't see it as someone who is a sore loser or that just wants to spout some nonsense or be a drama queen. I completely believe his sincerity. However, he can rest at night knowing that he's not alone.
    It also helps that he was apart of something bigger and greater than anything the Academy will ever nominate for best picture.
  • Pensieve SeekerPensieve Seeker Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭
    The great thing about Daniel is that he actually cares. He's outspoken about stuff like this. He's really proud of the movies and sees that Part 2 is a masterpiece, so I can definitely understand his grief. I know he cares, too-- it's evident from when Rowling said "Hogwarts will always be there to welcome you home" and he was trying to cover up the fact that it fucking blindsided him emotionally. That must have meant something to him; if he didn't truly care about the story or the characters and was just there for the money/fame, he would have just smiled and clapped like everyone else.

    So when he says these things, I don't see it as someone who is a sore loser or that just wants to spout some nonsense or be a drama queen. I completely believe his sincerity. However, he can rest at night knowing that he's not alone.
    =D> This x 1000!
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He probably sleeps like a king knowing that fact.
  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whether or not you agree with him, you have to respect the fact that he spoke up.
    Yeah. It seems like he's confessing a lot of stuff he kept for himself. His relationship with Rupert, how the drinking problem affected his performance in HP, this, and I think he mentioned that Emma is stubborn when she's discussing something, and it takes hours to finish it.
  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The great thing about Daniel is that he actually cares. He's outspoken about stuff like this. He's really proud of the movies and sees that Part 2 is a masterpiece, so I can definitely understand his grief. I know he cares, too-- it's evident from when Rowling said "Hogwarts will always be there to welcome you home" and he was trying to cover up the fact that it fucking blindsided him emotionally. That must have meant something to him; if he didn't truly care about the story or the characters and was just there for the money/fame, he would have just smiled and clapped like everyone else.

    So when he says these things, I don't see it as someone who is a sore loser or that just wants to spout some nonsense or be a drama queen. I completely believe his sincerity. However, he can rest at night knowing that he's not alone.
    It's true. But, he recently said that he didn't had a problem with the Academy.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The great thing about Daniel is that he actually cares. He's outspoken about stuff like this. He's really proud of the movies and sees that Part 2 is a masterpiece, so I can definitely understand his grief. I know he cares, too-- it's evident from when Rowling said "Hogwarts will always be there to welcome you home" and he was trying to cover up the fact that it fucking blindsided him emotionally. That must have meant something to him; if he didn't truly care about the story or the characters and was just there for the money/fame, he would have just smiled and clapped like everyone else.

    So when he says these things, I don't see it as someone who is a sore loser or that just wants to spout some nonsense or be a drama queen. I completely believe his sincerity. However, he can rest at night knowing that he's not alone.
    I like this... I really like this.

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  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's true. But, he recently said that he didn't had a problem with the Academy.
    I say that I expected this to happen and that it's nothing surprising, but on some days I start to dwell on it and think about how bad the Academy fucked up and failed to acknowledge some of the hardest work that has ever went into a film franchise. I don't think that a movie should be nominated just because a lot of work went into it, but the chances of producing eight very solid movies with more or less the same cast and crew over the course of a fucking decade is an accomplishment that not Hugo, not Moneyball, not Extremely Loud and Incredibly Trite have the joy of sharing. And hell, it's not even just because of that either! In addition to all of that, film franchises generally get worse as they go and if anything, at least stay on the same level. The leap in quality from Chamber of Secrets to Prisoner of Azkaban is massive. The fact that Order of the Phoenix was a big budgeted character study released as a summer film should be commended. The fact that the studio agreed to up the budget and schedule in order to split the final novel into two pieces in order to do it better justice at the expense of everyone screaming that they're just trying to make more money and the fact that the first half of it would be much like Order of the Phoenix-- not very action heavy and mostly character development and exposition-- that should also be commended. The fact that David Heyman poured every ounce of his ingenuity and care into carefully choosing directors, sometimes very inspired choices, should be commended. What about Stuart Craig, who brought so many structures and landscapes to life, or John Williams or Nicholas Hooper or Patrick Doyle or the exquisite Alexandre Desplat who each brought their own slate and varied musical expertise to the franchise? What about Daniel Radcliffe, who came on at like 11 years old without any theatrical experience whatsoever and ended up carrying the biggest film franchise in the history of cinema on his shoulders and saw it through to the end? What about the incredibly amazing British ensemble that stuck with the whole shebang? What about the author caring about and trusting one of the actors with information about a character that nobody else knew about for the sole purpose of being able to shape an entire performance around it? And in general, what about all the filmmakers who worked to meticulously recount an epic story beginning with childhood and seeping over into adulthood, full of loss, uncertainty, and terrific storytelling as well as they did while preserving as much of the integrity of the source material as they possibly could while also making sure it had cinematic integrity as well?

    Sure, I'm a fan. But I thought it was the responsibility of the Academy to show and tell the rest of the world about quality cinema and to acknowledge those responsible for the wildest feats in cinema. I'm under 30, but I would be legitimately shocked if I ever live to see a cinematic feat as big as Harry Potter. I would be delighted.
  • BaneBane Posts: 9,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And no, I'm not even saying that Part 2 not being nominated for best picture illustrates incompetence. I'm saying that Part 2 not being nominated over something like Extremely Loud, which got below average reviews and was torn asunder by many popular critics, especially with there still being one slot left in the best picture category (10 spots, only 9 nominations this year) demonstrates incompetence.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're giving me postgasms right now... Keep doing it ^:)^
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  • yonythemoonyyonythemoony Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2012
    or John Williams or Nicholas Hooper or Patrick Doyle or the exquisite Alexandre Desplat who each brought their own slate and varied musical expertise to the franchise?
    Well, War Horse is scored by Williams, and Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close is scored by Desplat. So, at least that have in common with HP.
  • Darth LedgerDarth Ledger Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ^Those scores blew. Desplat was honored for Kings Speech last year but none of that compared to the likes of Obliviate. John Williams just doesn't do it for me right now. Hooper's OotP/HBP scores are to die for!
    "If you make yourself more than just a man... If you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely- A Legend."

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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 7,837 mod
    Hooper's OotP/HBP scores are to die for!
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford Posts: 27,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dan is alone in being the only one who actually doesn't care more than remotely. He isn't a desperado.

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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old ppl like hugo more.
    What an awful generalization.
    I liked it, a lot.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old ppl like hugo more.
    What an awful generalization.
    I liked it, a lot.
    It's a rather true, more older people liked it than kids.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old ppl like hugo more.
    What an awful generalization.
    I liked it, a lot.
    It's a rather true, more older people liked it than kids.
    I'm proud to be in the old people demographic then.
    To be honest though, I think Hugo is kinda overrated, despite how much I liked it.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old ppl like hugo more.
    What an awful generalization.
    I liked it, a lot.
    It's a rather true, more older people liked it than kids.
    I'm proud to be in the old people demographic then.
    To be honest though, I think Hugo is kinda overrated, despite how much I liked it.
    That's fair, I'm sure if I was a few years younger I'd like it. I couldn't get over the pointless secondary characters, the lack of connection with the father, the missed opportunity to make us care for Hugo when living miserably with his uncle but got shown nothing, the lack of direction, the "telling" and not "showing," some pointless scenes like getting caught, etc.

    Lmfao, yeah quite a bit for me, lmfao :p
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm only two years younger then you, let us remember. :P
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah but my view on films has grown exponentially in two years. I think I learned more about film in the past 2-3 years that I knew before those two years :p
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2012
    Yeah but my view on films has grown exponentially in two years. I think I learned more about film in the past 2-3 years that I knew before those two years :p
    Fair. Not to go off topic, but have you seen Moneyball?
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah but my view on films has grown exponentially in two years. I think I learned more about film in the past 2-3 years that I knew before those two years :p
    Fair. Not to go off topic, but have you seen Moneyball?
    Redboxed it last week, and it's 10/10. Loll, I've loved baseball for so long so I felt so close. This movie was made for me, instantly one of my all time favorites. This is the film I'd pick for Best Picture from the options.
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah but my view on films has grown exponentially in two years. I think I learned more about film in the past 2-3 years that I knew before those two years :p
    Fair. Not to go off topic, but have you seen Moneyball?
    Redboxed it last week, and it's 10/10. Loll, I've loved baseball for so long so I felt so close. This movie was made for me, instantly one of my all time favorites. This is the film I'd pick for Best Picture from the options.
    I loved it so much. Brad Pitt was excellent, as was...Jonah Hill.
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  • Martin1Martin1 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, it was fantastic.

    Now back to Hugo, what did you think of the things that bothered me? Did you notice them at all and if so did they just not affect you at all? Loll, because for me it was like a giant LED sign that read: "HEY LOOKIE HURR ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH DIS MOOOVIE!" :p
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