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Fincher's Dragon Tattoo---- WTF??????
You people are kidding me-- that shit was fucking atrocious. About half an hour too long, frequently meandered from the story into pointless bullshit, so much gratuitous nudity and sex scenes that it felt forced and made the director and writer feel immature, a pretty boring and long-winded plot that really went nowhere with a lot of repeated visuals, bland cinematography and editing (again runtime was way too long and a lot of it could have been left on the cutting room floor), Craig/Mara sex was just AWKWARD AS HELL and served NO purpose-- what a cinematic disaster. That was incredibly bland and highly distasteful and how it got nominated for cinematography and not Serra is fucking beyond me.
The Social Network was vastly superior to this junk. What a mess.
The Social Network was vastly superior to this junk. What a mess.
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Mysterious thing time.
So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
"so much gratuitous nudity and sex scenes that it felt forced[...] Craig/Mara sex was just AWKWARD AS HELL and served NO purpose"
I strongly disagree and I wish I could say you are absolutely factually inaccurate with the latter part of what I quoted. Seeing as how this is art, that's not possible.
The original title of this story is "Men who Hate Women." This is evident by the way Lisbeth is received by every party sans Mikael. I'll get to her relationship with Mikael momentarily. Now, the "gratuitous nudity" is unfounded seeing as how it plays a role in her characterization and the theme of the story: a lot of men are misogynistic assholes. She is obviously emotionally damaged due to her past, as is mentioned in regards to her father, so she acts out. Her clothing, her lifestyle, etc are demonstrable of this. Then you have the social worker who only gives her the money she's entitled to when he rapes her, numerous times. That nudity is not gratuitous in any way because it's there to show the pain that she, and other women, go through. It's "thematic nudity," if you will.
Now, of course the sex scenes between Lisbeth and Mikael are awkward, the first especially. The question you are probably asking yourself is this: why did Lisbeth sleep with Mikael? The most simplest answer is that Mikael is the only man, recently, to actually not care how she looks, how she lives her life, and even treats her well. If you recall the scene where he first meets her, she grabs her taser to prepare for a fight. Her views of men have been damaged due to the rape and when you couple that with the fact that she prodded into his life, she is rightfully scared. He doesn't care about the "hacking" but instead wants to enlist her services to help him catch, and I quote, "a killer of women." Do you see the theme? That theme is carried further when he is injured while running away from an assassination attempt. She sees that and she possibly realizes that he almost gave his life to find out which misogynist killed these poor women. The ending to the film destroys her progress in trusting men again when she realizes she's in love with him and is devastated that he probably isn't. Those scenes served a purpose.
As for the cinematography, I obviously disagree. It's methodical in nature, just like it is in Zodiac. The slow shots resemble the slow investigation. Also look at the lead up to the mansion where Mikael will spend his time: it's slow and methodical, giving a sense of gloom into the world that he will soon be wrapped in. I could go on, but I've only seen it once and won't see it again until I get the Blu-ray.
I agree with you on the editing. It is a tad too long and the ending feels way too abrupt. Here is relevant the text from my review on my now-deleted blog: Those are the only problems I have with the editing.
So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
I suppose the feel of the length of the movie is dependent on the viewer. Fincher's use of montages is something I've always loved and admired, something that allows the plot to advance without the need to substitute film time. The Princes Tale definitely feels shorter than 7 minutes, but it is. Scenes like this over a 2.5 hour film really make it feel shorter, at least to me it did.
so much gratuitous nudity and sex scenes that it felt forced and made the director and writer feel immature
I couldn't disagree more here. The rape scenes are used to amplify how disgusting men can be and the ignored abuse of women, which is the main theme of both the novel and the film.
Craig/Mara sex was just AWKWARD AS HELL and served NO purpose-- what a cinematic disaster.
Except it did serve a purpose. Salander for her entire life had been neglected as you can see and make the assumption of, and men as you can see from the rapist are not exactly in her best views. When finally one comes along that ISNT an asshole and that respects her as A HUMAN BEING and AN ADULT, she feels attracted and wants to have sex. The unfortunately life she had growing up is that sex is just, well, sex. Nothing crazy or love filling, it's pleasuring for both people, and she wanted that from him. He was the first in who knows how long to make her feel worth something, perhaps.
And the ending you see how she's tracking down Wiesntromhoweverthefuckitsspelled and trying to get him bankrupt. Why? What does she gain? Nothing. Who gains from this? Mikael, he is happy to see his enemy down. She goes through all of that to fix this problem for him, then at the end, you see how shes FUCKING SMILING for like the first time fucking forever and buys him something. When he sees her back with his other partner, she's torn and realizes he may not have all to different, leaving very confused and disappointed.
The cinematography wasn't bad. It's supposed to have a dark, chilling theme. The isolation in the freezing, the greys, light blues, and whites to give off that sense of isolation and unhappiness. The scenes with Salander being raped were dark and vivid, perfectly matching the tone.
Yeah, still my second favorite of the year behind DH2.
Anyway I watched it for the investigation plot and I have no interest in strange characters because I'm not emotionally attached to them and I generally cannot stand rude and dirty individuals. So while there may be some oh so deep characterization behind them, it doesn't enhance my enjoyment of the film.
Also there are like a billion ways to show that Craig actually likes Mara's character for what she is other than gratuitous fucking scenes that detract and distract from the plot.
No one said this had to be emotionally attached. I wasn't emotionally attached to them, but I enjoyed watching their characters progress. We could tell Lisabeth had a troubled childhood and a very, VERY rough life. Finally she meets Mikael and he's not an asshole like the others.
And it's not exactly Mikael that likes her, he kinda likes sex in general, it's just like getting a cup of coffee to him as we saw earlier when lisabeth said his partners husband didnt care, so it's all just natural to them. The same could be said for Lisabeth, except she has the slight attraction. She doesn't know how to convey this feeling, so at first it's just through something she knows how to do and is normal to her: sex. Then in the end you see she truly likes him when she's smiling at the thought of getting him a gift and is, well, slightly heartbroken by him with his other partner.
I do think it could have been about 45 minutes shorter though.
So Crucify the ego, before it's far too late, to leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical. And you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
I understand how you might be disappointed going in thinking it was about to be the next Zodiac. My friend knew nothing about it other than that it was a crime movie but still loved it. Oh well
I have no problem with sex scenes, so again, we simply differ in opinion. But as their characters were built, this was the natural response and way. Doing otherwise would be like Ron and Hermione NOT arguing in any of the films before they get together. This sex was natural and fit their characters, just as arguing fit Ron and Hermione.
Anyway, it's true that I prefer likable characters against the opposite. Either likable, or complicated. I didn't find any of these characters complicated. She had a bad childhood and comes to respect Mikael. Fine, but it's hardly deep enough to be noteworthy.
Honestly I am so stupid that I can't have criticisms like you guys do. Bane dislikes the editing and awkwardness.
I just liked it...
Bane understands certain aspects of intelligible filmmaking.
I watch movies and either like it or don't lol
Bane works, fuks bitches, and makes money.
I read at home alone while my mom washes my clothes...
I did really like some of the atmospheric music though, and the opening credits were awesome.